Prospect Info: 2017 NHL Draft / Pick #7 - Lias Andersson (C) - Part II

[kovazub94]

Thanks for the warnings - I’m not watching.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

They didn't think he was the most NHL ready. Jesus Christ. Read the last sentence

I busted out laughing. Like...there were only three sentences.

 

[Miamipuck]

McKenzie said the Rangers list was Pettersson, Glass, Andersson, Suzuki.

Didn't mention order, but would imagine it was exactly that order.

Pettersson and Glass were gone by the time the Rangers were picking. Andersson was next highest.

1 + 1 = 2

Most of the time, the easiest answer is the correct one.

Occams Razor doesn't exist here.

 

[darko]

Glass sustained a pretty gruesome injury yesterday too, maybe broken leg? Likely out of the season.

That was horrible.

 

[EEL]

I don't think the guys drafted after Lias have done much better than him, if at all:

- Mittelstadt's scoring rate and corsi in the NHL have only been a little bit better and he's played with much better linemates than Lias did and gotten significant PP time
- Rasmussen wasn't in the top 20 in PPG in the WHL last year and has been pretty quiet in the NHL this year
- Tippett's still in the OHL and is only 20th in the league in scoring. Andersson actually ranks higher among U21 players in PPG in the AHL than Tippett does in the OHL
- Vilardi's injuries seem like they could be a big deal
- Necas has scored at a slightly higher rate than Andersson in the AHL, but he's on the best team in the AHL while Andersson's on a team that's going to miss the playoffs
- Nick Suzuki's only been a little better than Tippett
- It seems like Cal Foote has been ok in the AHL, but nothing special
- Valimaki was pretty quiet in the NHL before getting hurt
- Liljegren seems to have regressed from last year in the AHL
- Vaakanainan doesn't look any better than Andersson in the AHL

Out of the next 12 picks, I think the only guy who's obviously been better than Lias is Brannstrom. Then you have Robert Thomas, who 12 other teams passed on and Chytil, who we took.

Tolvanen, Vesalainan, Frost, and Jokiharju all look good at the end of the draft, but:
- Tolvanen's been worse than Andersson in the AHL this year
- Vesalainan couldn't stick in the NHL this year and left for the KHL
- Frost is still in a junior league
- Jokiharju seemed to be struggling in the NHL the last game the Rangers played the Blackhawks

Batherson, who was passed over 120 times and came out of nowhere is probably the only other guy who clearly goes ahead of Andersson, but he's cooled off a lot after his great start to the season.

So out of the 210 guys drafted after Andersson, it seems to me like there are only 3-4 who have been clearly been better than him (1 of whom we drafted) and Andersson is in somewhere in the group of the best 10-15 players after that. We'll be able to judge the pick much better in 5 years, but based on how everyone else has performed so far it seems like very reasonable pick to me.

Wow! Thank you that information. Perfect

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

That was gruesome, he frigging slides/grinds what is likely a compound fracture across the ice with his full body weight pushing down on it. Just holy ****

The morbid side of me is like "The made of Glass jokes write themselves"

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Wow, looks like he avoided a serious injury:

 

[Crease]

One to two weeks is amazing turnaround. I had a similar injury that kept me off the ice for six weeks and lingered long after.

 

[McRanger]

Wow, looks like he avoided a serious injury:

Great news for Cody and Vegas.

If he were a Rangers prospect his leg would have snapped off and the blade would have flown all the way to NYC and stabbed Chytil.

 

[Sarge13]

Great news for Cody and Vegas.

If he were a Rangers prospect his leg would have snapped off and the blade would have flown all the way to NYC and stabbed Chytil.

And because of expansion the Rangers would have had to send Seattle a 2nd round pick to obtain the legs rights back.....

 

[BroadwayStorm]

I wanted Brannstrom.

 

[Edge]

I wanted Glass.

Knew he was high on the Rangers list. Just wasn't quite sure where.

 

[McRanger]

I wanted Glass.

Knew he was high on the Rangers list. Just wasn't quite sure where.

Just behind Petterson, right?

Which... yeah. Yeah I am cool with that call. Really can't go wrong with either of them but Petterson is, well, ridiculous.

 

[offdacrossbar]

Great news for Cody and Vegas.

If he were a Rangers prospect his leg would have snapped off and the blade would have flown all the way to NYC and stabbed Chytil.

you forgot, while also taking out jake degroms right arm.....

 

[Edge]

Just behind Petterson, right?

Which... yeah. Yeah I am cool with that call. Really can't go wrong with either of them but Petterson is, well, ridiculous.

I liked Petterson but wasn't quite sure he'd become what he has. I expected him to be very good --- I didn't expect him to be as good as he's been thus far.

Looking at him then, and in his subsequent WJC, there were areas that were good but not necessarily great.

But he's taken it up a level IMO.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

tbh, at this point I hope he turns out to be a dope bottom-6 player.

Obviously it's early and he has lots of work ahead. he's not a bust, but I can't see him sniffing a top-6 NHL role.

Maybe he should've stayed in Sweden another full year. Repeat the championship, idk.

edit: I wanted Petterson

 

[Lion Hound]

I wanted Suzuki, but Lias is a NY Ranger, so hoping he kicks butt and takes names.

Don't ever see him in a top 6 role, but I do think he can be successful as 3rd 4th line role.

 

[TheBPA]

Yeah I'm gonna hold off on characterizing Lias as a bottom 6 player at best since, you know, he's 20 and in his first full season in North America.

 

[Rempe73]

I wanted Suzuki, but Lias is a NY Ranger, so hoping he kicks butt and takes names.

Don't ever see him in a top 6 role, but I do think he can be successful as 3rd 4th line role.

Yupp. I wanted Liljegren/Brannstrom at that spot. I also think Lias will be nothing more than a great bottom 6 player, but I hope he proves me wrong. He hasn’t done that yet, as something tells me if he really was destined to be a top 6 center, he wouldn’t be in Hartford right now. His upside is already limited, and not being NHL-ready yet is concerning. The thing is, I usually don’t give up on players so early, but I hated the Lias pick from day 1. I’ll admit it. Oh well. Can’t win them all.

 

[True Blue]

Yupp. I wanted Liljegren/Brannstrom at that spot. I also think Lias will be nothing more than a great bottom 6 player, but I hope he proves me wrong. He hasn’t done that yet, as something tells me if he really was destined to be a top 6 center, he wouldn’t be in Hartford right now. His upside is already limited, and not being NHL-ready yet is concerning. The thing is, I usually don’t give up on players so early, but I hated the Lias pick from day 1. I’ll admit it. Oh well. Can’t win them all.

How about we let him play a year or two in NA and maybe get to the legal drinking age before he is declared a bust?

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

How about we let him play a year or two in NA and maybe get to the legal drinking age before he is declared a bust?

Where’s the fun in that?

 

[Rempe73]

How about we let him play a year or two in NA and maybe get to the legal drinking age before he is declared a bust?

I’m just stating my opinion of what I think he’ll probably become. Like I said, I hope I’m proven wrong.

 

[Joey Bones]

The sad part is I wanted brannstrom....so there's that.

We all wanted Brannstrom.... we all did....

 

[Joey Bones]

Sitting here, still not worried about Andersson. He'll do fine in the NHL....

 

[True Blue]

I’m just stating my opinion of what I think he’ll probably become. Like I said, I hope I’m proven wrong.

That's the point. Isn't it a bit early to be coming to such conclusions? The kid cannot have a beer legally and suddenly he is not going to live up to his potential? What were you expecting from him realistically?