Prospect Info: 2018-2019 General Prospect Discussion Thread

[2Pair]

Still waiting on that reason for why he should’ve been out there. All you need is one legit reason and it’s so difficult for you to come up with it.

He was one of the best forwards on the team? He was the last US player to score a goal in the game you're discussing? I didn't really think you could be serious with that question.

 

[2Pair]

Staal? No.
Eriksson Ek? No.
Koivu? Sure.
Fehr? Who cares.

If you're not playing your natural position, then skating can make up for a lot of things. If they want to develop him as a center, then Iowa is the place to do it, not the NHL with one half of a college season of experience at the position. Or maybe he's a savant, jumps in and crushes it. I'm certainly not rooting against it; just not overly optimistic.

Eriksson Ek is nowhere near the skater that Greenway is. In both speed or strength. Give your head a shake.

 

[nickschultzfan]

I like the idea of Greenway at center. Especially on the defensive side. He is already strong and hasn't even tapped his potential.

Imagine opposing forwards expending energy shift after shift against him. Fighting him for pucks. Having to get by him. Having to go through him to get to the next. Exhausting.

At center he can use his size and playmaking against every skater on the ice. At wing, it would be limited to opposing Dmen and sometimes their center, but only in our Ozone.

 

[Digitalbooya]

He was one of the best forwards on the team? He was the last US player to score a goal in the game you're discussing? I didn't really think you could be serious with that question.

Dude was not a top 3 forward on the team. He was also on the ice for two goals against AFTER he scored his goal and only point of the entire tournament. Not to throw your own words back at you but: give your head a shake.

 

[Goose312]

I like the idea of Greenway at center. Especially on the defensive side. He is already strong and hasn't even tapped his potential.

Imagine opposing forwards expending energy shift after shift against him. Fighting him for pucks. Having to get by him. Having to go through him to get to the next. Exhausting.

At center he can use his size and playmaking against every skater on the ice. At wing, it would be limited to opposing Dmen and sometimes their center, but only in our Ozone.

On defense I could certainly see him at center. Huge asset there. Offensively though I'd personally rather keep him deep in the zone at wing winning board battles. Maybe they can work out some sort of hybrid assignment? I'm not as sold as his BU coach seems to be that he can drive the offense from center.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Eriksson Ek is nowhere near the skater that Greenway is. In both speed or strength. Give your head a shake.

Top end speed maybe, once he gets going, not too surprising. Agility or acceleration, he's behind.

I shall not shake my head.

 

[2Pair]

On defense I could certainly see him at center. Huge asset there. Offensively though I'd personally rather keep him deep in the zone at wing winning board battles. Maybe they can work out some sort of hybrid assignment? I'm not as sold as his BU coach seems to be that he can drive the offense from center.

Forwards don't have positional assignments on offense. Just because Koivu pretty much refuses to go down low, doesn't mean that the centers aren't allowed to do it .

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Eriksson Ek is nowhere near the skater that Greenway is. In both speed or strength. Give your head a shake.

The size advantage Greenway has may give him better stability strength but speed, acceleration and stride strength i would give to EK.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Forwards don't have positional assignments on offense. Just because Koivu pretty much refuses to go down low, doesn't mean that the centers aren't allowed to do it .

Agreed, Getzlaf is a pretty good example of that, dude is in the corners and behind the net 24/7

 

[2Pair]

The size advantage Greenway has may give him better stability strength but speed, acceleration and stride strength i would give to EK.

Not close. This is like the people who think Spurgeon is faster than Suter

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Not close. This is like the people who think Spurgeon is faster than Suter

Iv seen suter full speed that dude can straight fly, he just knows how to stride out and conserve energy. Greenway is strong and has solid speed but i think you underestimate just how quick Ek is. We will see soon enough with them 2 on a line together.

 

[2Pair]

Iv seen suter full speed that dude can straight fly, he just knows how to stride out and conserve energy. Greenway is strong and has solid speed but i think you underestimate just how quick Ek is. We will see soon enough with them 2 on a line together.

Greenway skates just like Staal. There's nothing wrong with Ek's skating either, but Greenway is better.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Greenway skates just like Staal. There's nothing wrong with Ek's skating either, but Greenway is better.

Im not saying i dislike his skating, he has the long powerful stride that a guy his height should have. Like i said, hopefully tonight they show a 2 v 1 with those 2 coming down and show off the speed. Either way both are solid skatings. Greenway at center makes me more curious than anything as if that works out, he SHOULD be a huge force down the middle.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

Greenway should just be copying everything that Staal does in our system, he is definitely physically capable, just about honing his positioning. It’s almost better he’s fresh to center, they can develop him as a blank canvas without any bad habits from juniors vs learning straight from an all star number 1 center to perfectly fit Boudreaus system. Would be a coach’s dream to have that kind of flexibility in 3 lines.

 

[57special]

Staal was a #2 oa pick who scored 100 pts. in his age 21 yr. Greenway is in a completely different talent tier.

 

[Nsjohnson]

I don't think anyone thinks Greenway is actually at the same level or ever will be at peak Staal.

Eric is big, deceptive in his skating, really good with his stick, and is a very accurate shooter. Underrated shooter across the league. Guys know he can shoot really well but they forget. He's also super smart. At one point Staal was probably a top 10 player in the league (05-08 area) or close to it. That also means the world. Obviously he also is good defensively too, though his +/- doesn't show it while playing for Carolina.

Greenway will be a success for us Wild fans if he can put up 60 points and 20 goals a year while playing 'like' Staal.

The thing I see in Greenway's game is that he is tenacious and actually a bit deceptive in his smarts. He skates well and makes quick decisions with the puck. He looks confident in his body language on the ice and doesn't shy away from contact even if he isn't overly physical.

 

[Wabit]

Baribeau, Dewar, and Lodnia were sent to their CHL teams today.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Baribeau, Dewar, and Lodnia were sent to their CHL teams today.

Not surprised for any of them.

 

[Victorious Secret]

Not surprised, but I was hoping to see more of Lodnia.

 

[Wabit]

Not surprised, but I was hoping to see more of Lodnia.

The CHL teams have already played preseason games and their season starts this weekend. Might as well get their players home, settled, and a couple of practices before then.

 

[Victorious Secret]

Okay.

 

[Wabit]

I'm aware. I've already been to 9 games. Preseason. 3 Tripleheaders. And they were awesome.

And if he has to be 'settled' to be successful, he won't amount to anything.

I don't think he'll amount to much to begin with, but that's besides the point. Why not get him into the routine of the IceDogs? He's on a new team, in a new city, and FWIW Canada instead of the US for the home rink. If he was still with Erie, maybe he gets into tonight's game?

 

[nstarjim]

Hunter Werner is a name I haven't heard in awhile. Thought he was pretty good in the prospect tourney a couple years back. What happened? Iowa tire fire?

 

[Wabit]

Hunter Werner is a name I haven't heard in awhile. Thought he was pretty good in the prospect tourney a couple years back. What happened? Iowa tire fire?

From the Iowa announcers he's more of an enforcer without any puck skills.

 

[nstarjim]

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