Salary Cap: 2017-18 Roster Building Thread VI | Contract/FA charts in Post #1 | CAP SET at $75M

[shureshot66]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

2017-18 salary ceiling​

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$75,000,000​

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Projected dollars committed |

59,420,000​

Projected July 1 cap space |

15,580,000​

PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

30​

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9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

29​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|

RW​

|

29​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

29​

|

4,250,000​

|

UFA​

Carl Hagelin|

LW​

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28​

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4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

|

UFA​

Jake Guentzel|

LW​

|

22​

|

734,167​

|

734,167​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

24​

|

640,000​

|

RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Carter Rowney|

RW​

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27​

|

612,500​

|

UFA​

Defense.................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

|

.2019-20​

Kris Letang|

D​

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29​

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7,250,000​

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7,250,000​

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7,250,000​

Olli Maatta|

D​

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22​

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4,083,333​

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4,083,333​

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4,083,333​

Ian Cole|

D​

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27​

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2,100,000​

|

UFA​

Goalie............,.......​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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.2019-20​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

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32​

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5,750,000​

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5,750,000​

|

UFA​

Matt Murray|

G​

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22​

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3,750,000​

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3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Zach Aston-Reese|

LW​

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22​

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925,000​

|

925,000​

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RFA​

Thomas Di Pauli|

C​

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22​

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742,500​

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RFA​

Teddy Blueger|

C​

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22​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Daniel Sprong|

RW​

|

19​

|

692,500​

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RFA​

Dominik Simon|

C​

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22​

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692,500​

|

RFA​

Defense...............​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Jeff Taylor|

D​

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22​

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742,500​

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742,500​

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RFA​

Ethan Prow|

D​

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24​

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730,000​

|

RFA​

Lukas Bengtsson|

D​

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22​

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705,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie..................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2017-18​

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2018-19​

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2019-20​

Sean Maguire|

G​

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23​

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705,000​

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RFA​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

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21​

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630,833​

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RFA​

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2016-17​

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News and notes​

Mark Streit|

D​

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39​

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5,250,000​

|Served his purpose as a deadline rental

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

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37​

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3,850,000​

|Used to have something mean written here

Trevor Daley|

D​

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33​

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3,300,000​

|Declining, but immortalized as the anti-Scuderi

Ron Hainsey|

D​

|

35​

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2,833,333​

|History with Rutherford could earn an extra look

Nick Bonino|

C​

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28​

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1,900,000​

|No way to tell which Bonino you'd be paying for

Matt Cullen|

C​

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40​

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1,000,000​

|Thanks for your service, Dad -- Enjoy retirement

Chad Ruhwedel|

D​

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26​

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575,000​

|Better than expected as an extended fill-in

David Warsofsky|

D​

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26​

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575,000​

|Great AHL production -- Not an NHL defender

Cameron Gaunce|

D​

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26​

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575,000​

|Depth defender who showed a few flashes

Kevin Porter|

C​

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30​

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575,000​

|Likely to move on after not sniffing a call-up

Garrett Wilson|

LW​

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25​

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575,000​

|Group VI UFA was solid in WBS before injury

Tom Sestito|

LW​

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29​

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575,000​

|Token minor-league goon

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player..........................​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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2016-17​

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News and notes​

Justin Schultz|

D​

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26​

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1,400,000​

|Hard to imagine anyone raising his stock more

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

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22​

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863,333​

|*Sigh* At least his next contract will still be cheap

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

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25​

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800,000​

|In line for a reasonably priced mid-range deal

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

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22​

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700,833​

|Will they protect him in the expansion draft?

Conor Sheary|

LW​

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24​

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667,500​

|Aggressive agent could make for tough negotiation

Josh Archibald|

RW​

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24​

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659,167​

|Decent speed will keep him in the organization

Frank Corrado|

D​

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23​

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600,000​

|Worthwhile project to keep around and develop

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

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22​

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585,000​

|Needs to take bigger step from AHL supporting cast

Tim Erixon|

D​

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25​

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575,000​

|Telling that he wasn't close to a call-up this season

Stuart Percy|

D​

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23​

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575,000​

|Unfortunately just another Leafs' first-round bust

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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Current Team​

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Contract​

Filip Gustavsson|

G​

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18​

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LuleÃ¥ HF (SHL)​

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3 years, 775,833 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

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Pos.​

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Age​

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Current Team (League)​

Niclas Almari|

D​

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18​

|HPK (Liiga)

Anthony Angello|

F​

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20​

|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|

D​

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21​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Kasper Bjorkqvist|

F​

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19​

|Providence (HEA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

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21​

|Maine (HEA)

Connor Hall|

D​

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18​

|Kitchener (OHL)

Ryan Jones|

D​

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20​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

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21​

|Brown (ECAC)

Joe Masonius|

D​

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19​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Nikita Pavlychev|

F​

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19​

|Penn State (B1G)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

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26​

|Amur Khabarovsk (KHL)

Frederik Tiffels|

F​

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21​

|Western Michigan (NCHC)

Dominik Uher|

C​

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23​

|HC Sparta Praha (ELH)

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[mpp9]

So if Elliot goes to free agency after having a down year, maybe you could get him cheap on a one year deal. I'm not really comfortable with Murray/Jarry next season. Murray has yet to play a full regular season as a starter due to some injuries and unless the Pens are convinced Jarry would be ready to start games for weeks/months at a time in case of a Murray injury, I'd get a stopgap.

Elliot looked his best in a goalie tandem setup.

 

[froods]

So the way I see it, we will have 7 million to spend on a 3C and Defenseman. We are currently at 60 million - Flower will give us just over 20 million in cap room with the following roster.:
Sid
Geno
Kessel
Horny
Hags
Rust
Rowney
Wilson
Kuhn
Jake
Tanger
Maata
Cole
Murray
Jarry

Estimated for RFAs
Schultz 5 million
Dumo 4 million
Sheary 2 million
Pouiliot or Ruhwedel 800k
Archibald 600k
Sundqvist 600k

 

[Speaking Moistly]

I don't think we'll see Jarry as the backup.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

So if Elliot goes to free agency after having a down year, maybe you could get him cheap on a one year deal. I'm not really comfortable with Murray/Jarry next season. Murray has yet to play a full regular season as a starter due to some injuries and unless the Pens are convinced Jarry would be ready to start games for weeks/months at a time in case of a Murray injury, I'd get a stopgap.

Elliot looked his best in a goalie tandem setup.

Elliott looked his best when he played behind a stingy St. Louis defense that played like the Mike Johnston Penguins. Any time Elliott's had to actually make saves to help his team out, he's choked.

But, I suppose as a backup, why not. I just don't think he'd be cheap. He likely still sees himself as a starter, even if it's a platoon starter.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

So if Elliot goes to free agency after having a down year, maybe you could get him cheap on a one year deal. I'm not really comfortable with Murray/Jarry next season. Murray has yet to play a full regular season as a starter due to some injuries and unless the Pens are convinced Jarry would be ready to start games for weeks/months at a time in case of a Murray injury, I'd get a stopgap.

Elliot looked his best in a goalie tandem setup.

There should be some decent options floating around. Miller, Johnson, Condon, Elliot, Nilsson, Mason, Kuemper and Bernier. J/k, not Bernier. Some may re-sign, get a tandem job or have a geographical preference but it's a decent crop of goalies.

Nilsson was a massive wall against us once. Dude weighs an extra quarter of a Murray.

 

[Riptide]

So if Elliot goes to free agency after having a down year, maybe you could get him cheap on a one year deal. I'm not really comfortable with Murray/Jarry next season. Murray has yet to play a full regular season as a starter due to some injuries and unless the Pens are convinced Jarry would be ready to start games for weeks/months at a time in case of a Murray injury, I'd get a stopgap.

Elliot looked his best in a goalie tandem setup.

My concern about Elliott is that while he's good enough to challenge and push Murray, I'm worried that he's too good. I don't think he'll come cheap enough (say less than 2.5m), but I'm worried that he'll want and take too many starts from Murray. I want someone who can do the job if need be... but I think we can find a better fit then Elliott. Not really sure who that might be... but it's my concern.

I won't complain if we get Elliott... but he's a good goalie who's played almost 50% of the starts and hasn't been a "backup" in almost a decade. I also think that there's other teams out there who would be a better fit - specifically Winnipeg. They need a #1 goalie, but also have a very good young guy who they'll want to get 30-40 starts. They also have the cap space for him. Pittsburgh isn't in the same situation.

 

[Peat]

I personally would rather get a cheap capable veteran and give Jarry a shot at number one should anything happen. If we do the deluxe route, I'd want a short contract as I'd expect Jarry to be forcing his way in pretty sharp.

 

[Empoleon8771]

This was a thought I just had, I think it's almost a guarantee that the tough guy the Penguins will bring in will be a winger. I don't see them adding a tough guy defenseman to be honest, the Penguins entire game is built off of puck moving defensemen and speed, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by having a guy like Engelland on defense. At center, the Penguins really only need a 3C and they're going to need a guy who's not incompetent offensively, since he'll be playing with Sheary and Hornqvist most likely. But at wing, they could survive with having a slower tough guy. Look at how effective overall Bonino was in the last 2 years despite not being able to skate well. If you put someone like Foligno in the bottom-6, I don't think the Penguins become so damaged that they can't play to their identity (adding Engelland plus a Letang injury can certainly bring them close to being that damaged), plus the board play of the bottom-6 would improve.

 

[BustaKapanen]

This was a thought I just had, I think it's almost a guarantee that the tough guy the Penguins will bring in will be a winger. I don't see them adding a tough guy defenseman to be honest, the Penguins entire game is built off of puck moving defensemen and speed, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by having a guy like Engelland on defense. At center, the Penguins really only need a 3C and they're going to need a guy who's not incompetent offensively, since he'll be playing with Sheary and Hornqvist most likely. But at wing, they could survive with having a slower tough guy. Look at how effective overall Bonino was in the last 2 years despite not being able to skate well. If you put someone like Foligno in the bottom-6, I don't think the Penguins become so damaged that they can't play to their identity (adding Engelland plus a Letang injury can certainly bring them close to being that damaged), plus the board play of the bottom-6 would improve.

Depends on our 4th line center imo. Because old man dad still had some decent wheels. We get a foligno and a Boyle let's say,our overall speed game drops significantly.

 

[The Old Master]

This was a thought I just had, I think it's almost a guarantee that the tough guy the Penguins will bring in will be a winger. I don't see them adding a tough guy defenseman to be honest, the Penguins entire game is built off of puck moving defensemen and speed, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot by having a guy like Engelland on defense. At center, the Penguins really only need a 3C and they're going to need a guy who's not incompetent offensively, since he'll be playing with Sheary and Hornqvist most likely. But at wing, they could survive with having a slower tough guy. Look at how effective overall Bonino was in the last 2 years despite not being able to skate well. If you put someone like Foligno in the bottom-6, I don't think the Penguins become so damaged that they can't play to their identity (adding Engelland plus a Letang injury can certainly bring them close to being that damaged), plus the board play of the bottom-6 would improve.

are we going to use a winger to clear the front of the net? or stop players from running our goalie?

 

[Empoleon8771]

are we going to use a winger to clear the front of the net? or stop players from running our goalie?

Your points would be more valid if the Penguins hadn't won 2 cups in a row. But they did.

I seriously don't see toughness as an issue on this team. But JR does, so he can fix that. Under the pretense of wanting toughness, I want to bring in guys that impact how this team plays the absolute least. A defenseman wouldn't do that, he'd actually impact how this team plays the most. A bottom-6 winger, preferably a 4th liner, would do exactly that.

 

[Asuna]

so i guess nashville is protecting jarnkrok.

vegas will probably pick james neal now

 

[Brandinho]

Scenes when Vegas are like "nah fam" and Neal stays in Nashville.

 

[mpp9]

Pretty amazing. A team badly in need of more offense to win a Cup, is possibly willingly losing one of their best scorers. And they really only have Forsberg and Johansen as better offensive players. Maybe Fiala or Arvidsson.

 

[Riptide]

so i guess nashville is protecting jarnkrok.

vegas will probably pick james neal now

Source?

 

[BustaKapanen]

Serious question here,I'm not being sarcastic. What exactly has Sundqvist done In his 30 NHL games that people think he's a legit nhler.

I understand pouliot has been a disappointment. And I get he was a top ten pick. But why do we write him off so quickly yet pencil Sundqvist in for duty. He's had maybe 1 good pre season game and a lucky bounce where he scored his only goal. His face offs are worse than malkin. Idk I'm not a fan at all. I forget what writer tweeted it last year but I found it hilarious yet fitting...Sundqvist looks like Jordan staal,if you zapped all of Jordan staal's powers off him.

 

[Asuna]

Source?

i post the truth

 

[Empoleon8771]

Pretty amazing. A team badly in need of more offense to win a Cup, is possibly willingly losing one of their best scorers. And they really only have Forsberg and Johansen as better offensive players. Maybe Fiala or Arvidsson.

James Neal is pretty not great at this point, though. They sign Thornton this summer and that changes completely, but he's not really that good right now.

Damn, that means Jarnkrok is out for us.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I don't blame them, but I think Bonino prices himself out of here.

 

[mpp9]

James Neal is pretty not great at this point, though. They sign Thornton this summer and that changes completely, but he's not really that good right now.

Or he's just not very good without a high end center. I'm no Neal fan.

Just saying you traded a franchise favorite for the guy and then played him with guys like Fisher. They should be bringing in the center before moving on from him at least.

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Would really like to see JR work something out with Vegas to snag someone like Jarnkrok or Brodin. No idea what it'd cost, but those two guys are great fits and fill big needs.

 

[shureshot66]

It makes sense given that Neal only has one year left on his deal and Jarnkrok, while not nearly as flashy of a name, is locked down forever at a low cost.

Vegas should take Neal in a heartbeat. Worst case is they flip him to a contender for a really nice return at the deadline.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Or he's just not very good without a high end center. I'm no Neal fan.

Just saying you traded a franchise favorite for the guy and then played him with guys like Fisher. They should be bringing in the center before moving on from him at least.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying. That's why I said he'd immediately become good again if the Predators got Thornton.

 

[Asuna]

I don't blame them, but I think Bonino prices himself out of here.

from that article regarding sundqvist,

paraphrased: rutherford says he expects sundqvist to make the team as the 3/4 line center