World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden

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jfc64

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Forsberg - Bäckström - Landeskog
Steen - Zetterberg - Lindholm
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Johansson - Backlund - Silfverberg
Hagelin - Söderberg


Hedman - Karlsson
Kronwall - Edler
Hjalmarsson - Ekman Larsson
Lindholm - Brodin


Lundqvist
Enroth
Lehner
 

TheTwelfth

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Forsberg - Bäckström - Landeskog
Steen - Zetterberg - Lindholm
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Johansson - Backlund - Silfverberg
Hagelin - Söderberg


Hedman - Karlsson
Kronwall - Edler
Hjalmarsson - Ekman Larsson
Lindholm - Brodin


Lundqvist
Enroth
Lehner

That defensive core is way too talented, will never happen. Put Tallinder and Oduya in, and we might have something closer to the final roster :sarcasm:
 

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Landeskog - Bäckström - F.Forsberg
D.Sedin - H.Sedin - Hornqvist
Steen - Zetterberg - Nyquist
Söderberg - Kruger - L.Eriksson
Hagelin

Hedman - Karlsson
OEL - Kronwall
Oduya - Hjalmarsson
H.Lindholm/Stralman

Lundqvist
Enroth
Lehner
 

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Landeskog - Bäckström - F.Forsberg
D.Sedin - H.Sedin - Hornqvist
Steen - Zetterberg - Nyquist
Söderberg - Kruger - L.Eriksson
Hagelin

Hedman - Karlsson
OEL - Kronwall
Oduya - Hjalmarsson
H.Lindholm/Stralman

Lundqvist
Enroth
Lehner

One of the directives in Chicago between now and the NHL Trade Deadline might be to figure out what is wrong with Johnny Oduya. Among defensemen with at least 200 minutes of even-strength ice time, he's last in Corsi-for percentage relative to team average.

His "With Or Without You" (WOWY) numbers are not flattering either. The Blackhawks control 50.3 percent of the shot attempts when Oduya and Niklas Hjalmarsson are on the ice at even strength together. Without Oduya, Hjalmarsson's above 60 percent, according to stats.hockeyanalysis.com.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=748837
I'd definitely take Brodin or Klingberg over Oduya.
 

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Why not both? Last Olympics had 8 d men.

Teams could pick 22 skaters for the Olympics and they could dress 20 skaters for a game. In the World Cup teams will be able to pick 20 skaters, which means that they'll probably be dressing 18 skaters for a game, just like they do in the NHL. It would seem logical to me to pick 7 D-men and 13 forwards.
 

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That defensive core is way too talented, will never happen. Put Tallinder and Oduya in, and we might have something closer to the final roster :sarcasm:

Yeah, MÃ¥rts like size. Below is a list ordered after weight of our most probable players for the 2016 World Cup tournament.

Victor Hedman (D) Tampa Bay Lightning 25 198 105
Nicklas Grossmann (D) Philadelphia Flyers 31 193 105
Jonathan Ericsson (D) Detroit Red Wings 31 195 102
Alexander Edler (D) Vancouver Canucks 29 193 100
Patrik Nemeth (D) Dallas Stars 23 192 96
Oscar Klefbom (D) Edmonton Oilers 22 192 96
Robert Hägg (D) Philadelphia Flyers 20 188 94
Mattias Ekholm (D) Nashville Predators 25 192 94
Niklas Hjalmarsson (D) Chicago Blackhawks 28 187 94
Carl Gunnarsson (D) Toronto Maple Leafs 29 188 93
Adam Larsson (D) New Jersey Devils 23 190 91
Hampus Lindholm (D) Anaheim Ducks 22 189 88
Anton Strålman (D) New York Rangers 29 185 88
Jonas Brodin (D) Minnesota Wild 22 185 88
Johnny Oduya (D) Chicago Blackhawks 35 182 86
Niklas Kronwall (D) Detroit Red Wings 35 182 86
Oliver Ekman Larsson (D) Phoenix Coyotes 24 188 86
Erik Karlsson (D) Ottawa Senators 25 182 82
Tobias Enstrom (D) Winnipeg Jets 31 178 82
 

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So, considering MÃ¥rts is not around in 2018, I'll take a crack on a roster. I am projecting that Zetterberg will not make it, based on his history with back problems, but that the Sedins will play a role as veterans/pp-specialists on the team

2018 Olympics:

Forsberg - Bäckström - Nyquist
Sedin - Sedin - Hörnqvist
Landeskog - Söderberg - Hagelin
Zibanejad - Nylander - Eriksson
E. Lindholm, Burakovsky

Brodin - Hedman
Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
OEL - Larsson
H. Lindholm, Strålman/Klingberg/Kylington

Lundqvist
Lehner
Dansk
 

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Forsberg - Bäckström - Nyquist
Sedin - Sedin - Hörnqvist
Landeskog - Söderberg - Hagelin
Zibanejad - Nylander - Eriksson
Burakovsky - Lindholm

Brodin - Hedman
Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
OEL - Larsson
Lindholm - Strålman
Klingberg - Kylington

Lundqvist
Lehner
Dansk


My take:


Landeskog - Bäckström - Lindholm
Steen - Zibanejad - Forsberg
Johansson - Backlund - Nyquist
Zetterberg - Krüger - De la Rose
Söderberg - Silfverberg


Hedman - Karlsson
Ekholm - Ekman-Larsson
Lindholm - Larsson / Nemeth
Hjalmarsson - Brodin


Enroth
Lehner
Forsberg
 
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Nyquist - Bäckström - Hörnqvist
Forsberg - Zetterberg - Steen
Sedin - Sedin - Landeskog
Eriksson - Söderberg - Hagelin
Backlund

Hedman - Karlsson
Lindholm - Kronwall
OEL - Strålman
Hjalmarsson/Larsson/Klingberg/Brodin/Ekholm

Lundqvist
Enroth/Lehner/Läck/Svedberg/Markström/Fasth/Nilsson/Forsberg

In conclusion the goalie depth is atrocious so Lundqvist needs to be on. Barring a breakout season for one of the other goalies that is.
A LOT of good defensemen will not make it, and it seems like we will have more than one right handed d-man (Strålman will most likely make it and Karlsson will definitely make it if healthy, Klingberg and Larsson also seem to be developing in to first pairing d-men)
I think the forward group lacks a bit of high end speed so I would really like too see a breakout season from either Burakovsky or Nylander.
 
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I think Soderberg may still be blacklisted. It'll be interesting to see. If not, I'd say this for the forward group:

Forsberg-Backstrom-Nyquist
Steen-Zetterberg-Landeskog
Sedin-Sedin-Hornqvist
Hagelin-Soderberg-Eriksson
Backlund, Kruger
 

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I think Soderberg may still be blacklisted. It'll be interesting to see. If not, I'd say this for the forward group:

Forsberg-Backstrom-Nyquist
Steen-Zetterberg-Landeskog
Sedin-Sedin-Hornqvist
Hagelin-Soderberg-Eriksson
Backlund, Kruger


Do not think so since MÃ¥rts seems to be leaving before world cup. But he still fights about the last places in the team, so it is not a big deal unless we miss a lot of centers.

In my mind Steen was very mediocre in the last olympics. He is a solid player but nothing special, so a bottom 6 player not top 6.

But I do not really know if you talk about olympics or world cup. Olympics is a little bit far off, so I guess you mean world cup?

I hope we ship Modo J20 to world cup.
 

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Kronwall is probably a lock that shouldn't be a lock. I'd rather have Brodin on the team, he's always great on the national team.
 

ulvvf

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If we are talking about the Olympics 2018, I don't think Kronwall may be playing at top level then anymore.

Im pretty sure he will be that, he will only be 37 then. As long as nobody is giving a signal of slowing down or talk about ending their career I see now reason to not count with them in a tournament "only" 3 years away.

Kronwall is probably a lock that shouldn't be a lock. I'd rather have Brodin on the team, he's always great on the national team.

You mean one tournament 3 years ago?:) Brodin should off course be up there, but he is hardly a lock, a player like H Lindholm is in my book better.

Wow Team Sweden is going to look very good in 2016. Likely last time with the Sedin's. Very impressed

2018 should be more our tournament, espically if Zetterberg and the Sedins are playing then, which I count with at the moment. But we are in a generation shift, and it will take a few more years to complete. By the looks of it, this will be the last big generation shift for a long time. Before it has been big gaps between the generations. Not much between Forsberg generation to Sedin/Zetterberg to Bäckström. It was soon after Backstrom we start to produce top talent every year. The d-men is pretty much in place, it is more the new forwards that needs a couple of more years I think.

So it would be good if Zetterberg and Sedin could hold on to retirre to after 2018, then we could have both the new generation and the old in one tournament.
 

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Im pretty sure he will be that, he will only be 37 then. As long as nobody is giving a signal of slowing down or talk about ending their career I see now reason to not count with them in a tournament "only" 3 years away.



You mean one tournament 3 years ago?:) Brodin should off course be up there, but he is hardly a lock, a player like H Lindholm is in my book better.



2018 should be more our tournament, espically if Zetterberg and the Sedins are playing then, which I count with at the moment. But we are in a generation shift, and it will take a few more years to complete. By the looks of it, this will be the last big generation shift for a long time. Before it has been big gaps between the generations. Not much between Forsberg generation to Sedin/Zetterberg to Bäckström. It was soon after Backstrom we start to produce top talent every year. The d-men is pretty much in place, it is more the new forwards that needs a couple of more years I think.

So it would be good if Zetterberg and Sedin could hold on to retirre to after 2018, then we could have both the new generation and the old in one tournament.

Forwards are being produced at a steady rate as well now (albeit not at the great rate of defensemen), but some goalie(s) need to break out soon before Lundqvist regresses :shakehead
 

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Forwards are being produced at a steady rate as well now (albeit not at the great rate of defensemen), but some goalie(s) need to break out soon before Lundqvist regresses :shakehead

I really thought Lehner was going to take the reigns for the next while after Lundy (I'm an Ottawa fan), but his development has severely slowed down. Not sure if it is coaching or if they didn't give him the stats while he was hot (instead starting Andy), but it's very unfortunate. Hoping he turns it around.
 

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Forwards are being produced at a steady rate as well now (albeit not at the great rate of defensemen), but some goalie(s) need to break out soon before Lundqvist regresses :shakehead


Yes, but they need a couple of more years of development to be able to take over after Zetterberg/Sedins/Bäckström in a good way. The new d-men are more ready to take over from the older generation than the forward are at this stage.
 

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Im pretty sure he will be that, he will only be 37 then. As long as nobody is giving a signal of slowing down or talk about ending their career I see now reason to not count with them in a tournament "only" 3 years away.



You mean one tournament 3 years ago?:) Brodin should off course be up there, but he is hardly a lock, a player like H Lindholm is in my book better.



2018 should be more our tournament, espically if Zetterberg and the Sedins are playing then, which I count with at the moment. But we are in a generation shift, and it will take a few more years to complete. By the looks of it, this will be the last big generation shift for a long time. Before it has been big gaps between the generations. Not much between Forsberg generation to Sedin/Zetterberg to Bäckström. It was soon after Backstrom we start to produce top talent every year. The d-men is pretty much in place, it is more the new forwards that needs a couple of more years I think.

So it would be good if Zetterberg and Sedin could hold on to retirre to after 2018, then we could have both the new generation and the old in one tournament.

If you had been following Brodin you would know that he's ALWAYS raised his game when it matters. Not just during one tournament, he's done it since playing his first U18-WC tournament and all the way to the NHL. Lindholm would already be a lock on my team and so would Brodin.
 

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Kronwall is probably a lock that shouldn't be a lock. I'd rather have Brodin on the team, he's always great on the national team.

For 2016 or 2018?

Imo he's the 3rd or 4th best right now, but more importantly I don't see him competing with Brodin. Him and OEL, Karlsson, Hedman are the top4 when it comes to the full package. Round them out with Lindholm, Hjalmarsson and Brodin/Strålman and I'm good.

Btw 14 Swedish Ds averaging over 20 minutes/game, and Larsson/Ekholm are getting there soon. It's tough to pick 'em.
 
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