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Mitchy

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It's not Mike Trout's fault the rest of his team is godawful. The MVP is an individual award. It makes no sense to hold anything against an individual that is out of his control or the fault of other people.

Saying that the Angels suck discounts Trout's MVP case is like saying that David Ortiz hitting nearly 40 HRs makes Betts' case better.

Agreed. It's not like it's a particularly close race either. If it was, at least you can make some type of argument to give the MVP to a player who plays for a playoff team. Simply put, Trout has been the best player in the Majors this year and has been much better than any AL player.
 

Daisy Jane

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And if you're that good, maybe your team's record should be a little better.

ho do you figure?
he doesn't pitch, and most of the angels starting rotation was injured hence the poor record.
what more can he do other than he's doing to make the record better than it is? your logic is flawed.
 

Canada4Gold

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Thanks for returning the favour. We'll take our bloop hit now. But an extra base hit works just fine too
 

Matt24

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Please show some discipline, Melvin. This guy can't find the plate.
 

The Nemesis

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And if you're that good, maybe your team's record should be a little better.

If you're that good you're still 1 man in a lineup of 9 or 1 pitcher in a staff of 4 other starters. This isn't football where all the offence funnels through the QB in some way, shape, or form. Or basketball or hockey where you can tilt the distribution of playing time in favor of your better players to put more of the team's overall output on their shoulders. Every baseball player bats 1 out of every 9 of his team's PAs at most, plays one out of the 8 non-pitching fielding positions on the field. Single, individual players cannot drive a team's record in baseball the way they might in another sport.

Even a pitcher, who is a focal point of one aspect of the team's play, only has 20-30 starts a year, meaning that they help you in no more than 20% of your games. Clayton Kershaw could pitch a perfect game every time out, going 30-0. But if the Dodgers were a pile of burning dumpsters everywhere else and lost every other game, they would finish the year 30-132 and be easily the worst team in baseball. And in that case by your logic Kershaw isn't worthy of MVP consideration (regardless of the whole Cy Young/MVP eligibility divide) because he should've done more to make sure his team was competitive.
 

Tonka

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I am in a mood to cheer loud. A grand slam will make me cheer loud. Just saying.
 
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