Proposal: 2016 Offseason Trade Rumours & Proposals

[Holdurbreathe]

Most of them don't go to the best school in the world. If Vessy had gone to let's say the University of North Dakota, and had reasonable success with better team mates, he definitely wouldn't have stayed all four years.

The difficult part of predicting the future of NCAA players is establishing where they are on their development curve, since they play a significantly reduced schedule through their formative years of development.

Players like Gaudreau, Eichel, etc produced great numbers almost immediately upon entering the NCAA and it generally follows those type of players leave university early.

However in Vesey's case he wasn't really dominant until his 3rd year, yet played on a team generally proficient offensively.

So I can understand why some people may doubt he will be successful in a top six role in the NHL.

That said, Murray acquiring his rights for a 3rd round pick really is a no brainer with the worst case being he gets nothing for the pick.

 

[Holdurbreathe]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 6m6 minutes ago
BUF GM on trading for Vesey rights: "Why not us? Why not give it a shot? We have a spot in our Top 6 for him. We had four 3rd-round picks."
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Tim Murray wants to give the kid a top six spot

Tim wants Vesey and his agent to believe that is true!!!

 

[Yak]

Steep price for Andersen, have to wonder if Dorian inquired. Moving Out Anderson for a younger Andersen would been a okay deal for me, wont be long before Andy is injured again and our depth comes into question.

 

[PatrickEaves]

Steep price for Andersen, have to wonder if Dorian inquired. Moving Out Anderson for a younger Andersen would been a okay deal for me, wont be long before Andy is injured again and our depth comes into question.

Chris Driedger has never allowed a goal in the NHL.

 

[Super Cake]

lol Bruce thinks that if the Sens don't go long term with Hoffman, they will just go with another 1 year contract.

Might as well trade him if that does indeed happen.

 

[Hale The Villain]

lol Bruce thinks that if the Sens don't go long term with Hoffman, they will just go with another 1 year contract.

Might as well trade him if that does indeed happen.

Would be beyond stupid to do that.

ARZ tried the same thing with Boedker and now he's wearing another team's jersey.

 

[HoffStoneKarl*]

lol Bruce thinks that if the Sens don't go long term with Hoffman, they will just go with another 1 year contract.

Might as well trade him if that does indeed happen.

Seems like the thing that makes the least sense for Ottawa

 

[Super Cake]

Would be beyond stupid to do that.

ARZ tried the same thing with Boedker and now he's wearing another team's jersey.

Hopefully Hoffman is signed long term soon. If he goes to arbitration and gets a one year deal, he is definitely a goner.

 

[Boud]

Would be beyond stupid to do that.

ARZ tried the same thing with Boedker and now he's wearing another team's jersey.

Thankfully they didn't give him the contract he wanted. He just isn't worth what he was asking for. Although I agree, that they should've traded him before to get more value.

 

[Super Cake]

Seems like the thing that makes the least sense for Ottawa

It doesn't, but Dorion absolutely needs to sign him before the arbitration period opens.

 

[HoffStoneKarl*]

It doesn't, but Dorion absolutely needs to sign him before the arbitration period opens.

What's the difference between signing a 1 year deal and letting him go to arbitration?

 

[Super Cake]

What's the difference between signing a 1 year deal and letting him go to arbitration?

Basically the same outcome, he will be a ufa in a year.

The difference is that he may get more money from arbitration.

I also don't think it is a good idea to let him go to arbitration. It can be difficult to listen to the team make arguments on why you shouldn't be paid the money you want. Hoffman already had to go through it once. Going through it again may just make him say **** it and walk in a year when he is ufa.

 

[Hutz]

Pierre Dorion on the Hoffman contract negotiations (quote is at 6:30 mark):

"On Mike Hoffman, we have a cone of silence. I don't think that using the media on either side is a beneficiary to getting something done. I've got to say that the people at Octagon (Mike's agents) have been tremendous, nothing's gotten out, nothing's gotten out on their side, and we're really trying hard to get something done".

Huh, so ironically the biggest leak we've had is Dorion talking about the lack of leaks. I guess this means they've been talking at least.

 

[HoffStoneKarl*]

Basically the same outcome, he will be a ufa in a year.

The difference is that he may get more money from arbitration.

I also don't think it is a good idea to let him go to arbitration. It can be difficult to listen to the team make arguments on why you shouldn't be paid the money you want. Hoffman already had to go through it once. Going through it again may just make him say **** it and walk in a year when he is ufa.

I agree. Workout a contract or trade him.

If they do go to arbitration it'll be around 5mill a year I bet, which will probably also be around what he signs a 1 year deal for

I'm still bitter we didn't give him a similiar contract to Lee last year. I was hoping for a 4 year 4 mill contract

 

[Sens]

Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said Saturday a few NHL teams expressed interest in trading for Datsyuk's contract, but he was skeptical a trade would happen because of the additional assets it would cost Detroit to clear salary-cap space for one season.

"We'll see if I can move the contract," Holland said. "I'm not overly optimistic. ... Certainly you're going to be compromised by having $7.5 million tied up in a player that you don't have. It's a huge loss, it's a huge hole, and it's a very, very difficult situation."
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So that's good news... Detroit has no money after they lose Dats

 

[Rysto]

What's the difference between signing a 1 year deal and letting him go to arbitration?

Aren't we restricted from trading him if he gets a contract in arbitration?

 

[Benjamin]

What's the difference between signing a 1 year deal and letting him go to arbitration?

The amount of control the Sens have over Hoffman and the contract.

I'd trade him before arbitration or a 1 year deal. Then all in for Eriksson.

 

[Tundraman]

I thought that if the player files for arbitration then the team can pick the term ie... 1 or 2 years.

 

[InTkachukWeTrust]

The amount of control the Sens have over Hoffman and the contract.

I'd trade him before arbitration or a 1 year deal. Then all in for Eriksson.

I agree with this, i think ericksson will fill the hole well and maybe we could get a top 10 pick.

 

[Benjamin]

Would you guys do Hoffman + Chabot for Hall? Im unsure.

 

[Agent Zub]

Would you guys do Hoffman + Chabot for Hall? Im unsure.

Naw. Hoff + Ceci maybe.

Ideally Hoff + 12th overall. Which could be Serg, Chychrun, Fabbro, Bean

 

[BUCKLE UP]

Would you guys do Hoffman + Chabot for Hall? Im unsure.

Sure would. Hall is unreal.

 

[50 in 07]

Steep price for Andersen, have to wonder if Dorian inquired. Moving Out Anderson for a younger Andersen would been a okay deal for me, wont be long before Andy is injured again and our depth comes into question.

Yeah too bad that makes literally no sense for Anaheim.

Andersen got dealt because they couldn't afford his new contract. They were not going to take on 35 year old Craig Anderson to be a back up at 4.75 million.

 

[50 in 07]

Would you guys do Hoffman + Chabot for Hall? Im unsure.

Naw. Hoff + Ceci maybe.

Ideally Hoff + 12th overall. Which could be Serg, Chychrun, Fabbro, Bean

Hoffman + Chabot or Hoffman + 12th overall easily, but Edmonton would have no reason to make that deal.

No idea why so many people suggest dealing Ceci, especially for another forward. We finally have 4 competent top 4 d-men. Moving one of them just creates another huge hole and d-men are at a premium these days.

 

[HoffStoneKarl*]

The amount of control the Sens have over Hoffman and the contract.

I'd trade him before arbitration or a 1 year deal. Then all in for Eriksson.

But if Hoffman doesn't like the 1 year deal the Sens are offering him he'll just go to arbitration.

The only way Hoffman signs a 1 year deal is if he feels it's more then he'd get from arbitration.

Right?