What about lehtinen, or carbonneau, they were the bob gainey of there generation you could throw peca, in their too 8 selke's combined two with small market teams buffalo, and the isles which the isles were a small market back in the early 2000s
Peca, Lehtinen, no. Carbonneau is the only one that you might have a case with. If Patrice Bergeron is someday going to get some love for the HHOF (he might) then Carbonneau should at least be examined. Offensively he lags behind Bergeron for sure though but Carbonneau's teams were just simply always good and there is a reason for that. The defensive forward obviously isn't as valuable as the 100 point scorer or the 50 goal guy but there are a few that made quite the impact and we can start with Bob Gainey and then if there is a 2nd choice it is probably Carbs. Still not sure he should get in though.
Which defensive defenseman would you choose out of the three Lowe, numminen, or Zubov, numminen, and Lowe would be my picks, and what about vanbiesbrouck, Barrasso, or richter,
Numminen not a chance. It will never happen, he'll have to buy a ticket like the rest of us. Lowe shouldn't be there either. The term "riding on (insert name's) coattails" applies to him. Now, it doesn't mean he didn't have a good career but is Lowe being considered because he was part of 6 cups or because he was an individual talent on his own?
Zubov is a funny one. Part of me says yes, and part of me doesn't disagree that he isn't far from Niedermayer. I guess the problem I have is that he went a long time before garnering a 2nd team all-star in generally a pretty easy era to get one (late 1990s to late 2000s). Is just flat out better than people give him credit for and for whatever reason whether it was being outshone by Leetch in NYR or Hatcher in Dallas he never got his due. He needs a thorough examination in my opinion, an objective one.
As for the goalies, Richter no. Very high points but not enough of them and wasn't considered elite for very long. Fun to watch though and about as flexible of a goalie as you'll find. Was cut from an old cloth where he made saves because he was TRYING to make saves, not because he just closed his eyes and went to his knees and blocked them hoping it hits him somewhere.
Barrasso I have maintained should be in the HHOF. He and Vachon are two goalies that should be in. You don't like some things about Barrasso but the fact that he has less elite seasons than you'd like is okay since his highs are pretty good.
Beezer is pretty close to the HHOF but falls short. Wasn't a good playoff performer until that 1996 run. In fact, that was always a knock against him. When he was good though, he was good. But great? Not quite. So, no.
