2016 Draft Thread – Host: Buffalo – Part 1

[Snippit]

I've watched almost all of Tkachuk's games this year. I can see the question marks surrounding him, but I still think he's worthy of a top 5 pick. His patience, vision with the puck, passing and overall toughness is an impressive skillset.When separated from Marner and Dvo (mind you, this was for all of a couple of games) he didn't produce as much. It does raise the question if he can drive the offense himself.

But is he good at playing with other good players? Hell yeah. There's a reason USA put him with Matthews, and Hunter put him with Marner. He's a great complimentary player.

I think he *could* be an awesome winger for Eichel. I would take him at 5.

 

[Moskau]

I've watched almost all of Tkachuk's games this year. I can see the question marks surrounding him, but I still think he's worthy of a top 5 pick. His patience, vision with the puck, passing and overall toughness is an impressive skillset.When separated from Marner and Dvo (mind you, this was for all of a couple of games) he didn't produce as much. It does raise the question if he can drive the offense himself.

But is he good at playing with other good players? Hell yeah. There's a reason USA put him with Matthews, and Hunter put him with Marner. He's a great complimentary player.

I think he *could* be an awesome winger for Eichel. I would take him at 5.

The problem is that he's a complimentary player even at the CHL level. You expect most top 5 draft eligible players to push offense themselves at the CHL level even if you envision them as something different at the NHL level.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

2-24: MIKE MORREALE TALKS 2016 NHL DRAFT ON WGR (10:53)

@mikemorrealeNHL "The top six in this draft...I think you're getting a special player who could potentially play next year"

 

[Jame]

The problem is that he's a complimentary player even at the CHL level. You expect most top 5 draft eligible players to push offense themselves at the CHL level even if you envision them as something different at the NHL level.

I sort of agree...

There's a reason why someone like Bakes (whose opinion i value) see sooo much in Tkachuk. He's a really professional looking player. By that I mean, he plays the game in a way that translates very easily to the next level. He's very complete, and plays the game in a professional/working way. It's not CHL flash, individual dominance, highlight reel hockey. It's pro hockey.

He can jump right in to the NHL and play on a top 6 line IMO.

He's the safe pick. The sure thing. The low floor. Toronto is probably drooling over Tkachuk if they dont win the lottery for Matthews.

From a Buffalo perspective. I want him to go before our pick, because I am a needs based guy (LD), so I want Chychrun, Juolevi.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I sort of agree...

There's a reason why someone like Bakes (whose opinion i value) see sooo much in Tkachuk. He's a really professional looking player. By that I mean, he plays the game in a way that translates very easily to the next level. He's very complete, and plays the game in a professional/working way. It's not CHL flash, individual dominance, highlight reel hockey. It's pro hockey.

He can jump right in to the NHL and play on a top 6 line IMO.

He's the safe pick. The sure thing. The low floor. Toronto is probably drooling over Tkachuk if they dont win the lottery for Matthews.

From a Buffalo perspective. I want him to go before our pick, because I am a needs based guy (LD), so I want Chychrun, Juolevi.

Sounds like he's basically a slightly better version of Crouse, based on everyone's observations. Baker loved Crouse too, if memory serves. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to grab a guy who can play next year, but I have a one-track mind at the moment (LHD) and have a hard time giving a **** about perfecting the rest of the line up before that gaping hole is filled.

If buffalo is in the top 7, there's basically no way we don't get one of Chychrun, Juolevi, so I don't see Tkachuk as much of a possibility for Buffalo anyway.

 

[Reddawg]

We're winning the lottery this year and either drafting #1 overall or shipping the pick for a huge return. None of this top seven nonsense, the universe owes us and it's time to cash that check.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

We're winning the lottery this year and either drafting #1 overall or shipping the pick for a huge return. None of this top seven nonsense, the universe owes us and it's time to cash that check.

The hockey gods mock you.

 

[Reddawg]

The hockey gods mock you.

Not this time. Top pick is ours, it's in the bag.

 

[Jim Carr's Rug]

Not this time. Top pick is ours, it's in the bag.

I honestly would love to see Edmonton win the lottery again. Could you imagine?

 

[Jacob582]

I honestly would love to see Edmonton win the lottery again. Could you imagine?

I would rather see Edmonton win the lottery than Toronto. (I must be jealous of their tank)

 

[Sabre Dance]

I would rather see Edmonton win the lottery than Toronto. (I must be jealous of their tank)

I want Toronto to be a rivalry again for the next 15 years. So I want them to succeed along with us.

 

[BananaSquad]

I want Toronto to be a rivalry again for the next 15 years. So I want them to succeed along with us.

Yes same. Leafs Sabres rivarly makes hockey more exciting.

 

[Myllz]

I honestly would love to see Edmonton win the lottery again. Could you imagine?

The reactions from people would be funny, but I'd feel bad for Matthews. The same way I felt bad for McDavid.

 

[Reddawg]

Does Matthews play wing at all, or is he pretty strictly a center? I know that all centers play wing occasionally, but I'm wondering if he fills a need for us or if he would pretty much make it necessary to trade Reinhart.

It would be awfully nice to have the best forwards from each of the last three drafts in our top six for the next decade.

 

[Jame]

Does Matthews play wing at all, or is he pretty strictly a center? I know that all centers play wing occasionally, but I'm wondering if he fills a need for us or if he would pretty much make it necessary to trade Reinhart.

It would be awfully nice to have the best forwards from each of the last three drafts in our top six for the next decade.

...said all Edmonton fans in 2012

 

[Reddawg]

...said all Edmonton fans in 2012

Risto tho...

 

[sabrebuild]

Risto tho...

Is not nearly enough.

 

[B U F F A L O]

I kind of want to see EDM win the lottery again, and then finish bottom 3 next year again. Everyone would give up.

 

[Husko]

Am I the only one who lusts after the #1 pick just because I want to trade it? The ransom we could get, as a team that doesn't need a #1 center, makes me just giddy.

 

[DazedandConfused]

Am I the only one who lusts after the #1 pick just because I want to trade it? The ransom we could get, as a team that doesn't need a #1 center, makes me just giddy.

Yeah, it's the most valuable asset whether you want to draft Matthews or not.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Am I the only one who lusts after the #1 pick just because I want to trade it? The ransom we could get, as a team that doesn't need a #1 center, makes me just giddy.

I don't know about giddy, but I'm with you on the trade route. The #1 should be worth a top-pairing LHD that's about to get paid coming off his ELC, but if a trade like that doesn't present itself then I wouldn't be as excited about trading the pick.

 

[Jame]

Am I the only one who lusts after the #1 pick just because I want to trade it? The ransom we could get, as a team that doesn't need a #1 center, makes me just giddy.

Nope.

#1
for
OEL and Dvorak

 

[Husko]

Nope.

#1
for
OEL and Dvorak

You think they would pony up OEL + their pick (probably around #10)? Maybe if we swung our top second back? OEL+#10 for #1+#32? Imagine getting OEL and Juolevi :drool:

 

[Jim Bob]

Nope.

#1
for
OEL and Dvorak

You think they would pony up OEL + their pick (probably around #10)? Maybe if we swung our top second back? OEL+#10 for #1+#32? Imagine getting OEL and Juolevi :drool:

I doubt the Yotes are trading OEL, even for the right to take Matthews.

Just look at the "would you trade Risto for the 1OV pick?" poll here.

And OEL > Risto.

 

[Husko]

I doubt the Yotes are trading OEL, even for the right to take Matthews.

Just look at the "would you trade Risto for the 1OV pick?" poll here.

And OEL > Risto.

Yes, but that was when we were sitting #2 with Eichel staring us in the face. The answer was that the difference between Eichel and McDavid wasn't worth Risto. Taking Eichel out of the mix and you'd see a different result.