Speculation: 2016 Coyotes Off-Season Roster Discussion - Part 3

[Palmer2Fitz]

I'd happily pay Okposo for a season. Next summer, the buyer's remorse will set in when there are better options available for a similar price. Then when youngsters need new contracts, we'll probably end up buying him out. He's one of those guys who'll get a five year deal, but by year three everyone will be sneering and wincing.

A little wincing and sneering can be a small price to pay for a free asset. As long as the term isn't too ridiculous of course.

 

[Mosby]

Vancouver has contacted Boedker. Would love to see the contract he'd get from Benning.

 

[rt]

why do the Pens give up Cole? 27 yr old rounding into a top 4 guy, decent contract... Some expansion risk...but he's likely worth protecting

He's firmly a bottom pairing D and making too much for that role.

 

[Jakey53]

Okposo kind of seems like a Boedker with more of a scoring touch. I wonder about him because he's mostly played with Tavares and that definitely will inflate your stats. I don't know if i'd want to pay him what he's going to be looking for, but maybe Chayka sees something in the advanced stats that we don't

I'd happily pay Okposo for a season. Next summer, the buyer's remorse will set in when there are better options available for a similar price. Then when youngsters need new contracts, we'll probably end up buying him out. He's one of those guys who'll get a five year deal, but by year three everyone will be sneering and wincing.

He is nowhere near like Boedker. Love to have him. He can replace Doan in a year or two. He is only 28 yo. and in his prime, and does not cost any assets.

 

[rt]

A little wincing and sneering can be a small price to pay for a free asset. As long as the term isn't too ridiculous of course.

Let me rephrase. Okposo is wildly inconsistent, I have mako concerns that his production is highly dependent on John Tavares, when he's not scoring he brings little to the table, he reminds me a lot of Mikkel Boedker in many ways, I'm certain he'll get a contract that vastly exceeds his worth to a team, whoever signs him will ultimately regret it, and I really hope that team is not us. Haha. I figured I'd be more specific.

 

[Jakey53]

7-8 million aav? that would be risky. Excluding bringing some of the guys back from last year, I could see them spending $8 million in total aav next year for 2-3 players in FA. But on one guy, I would be nervous. They would pay $55 million in real salaries and 62-63 for the salary cap?

I would give him nowhere near that kind of money. More like 5.5/yr. I doubt he goes from 4.5 to 8 mil. Not with the cap situation the way it is.

 

[Matias Maccete]

Okposo is Boedker 2.0, no thanks. I'm also of the opinion we don't need to sign a premiere winger, we have domi and duke who are at the very least top 6 wingers. If we were a winger away from being a cup contender I'd see it.

 

[Jakey53]

Let me rephrase. Okposo is wildly inconsistent, I have mako concerns that his production is highly dependent on John Tavares, when he's not scoring he brings little to the table, he reminds me a lot of Mikkel Boedker in many ways, I'm certain he'll get a contract that vastly exceeds his worth to a team, whoever signs him will ultimately regret it, and I really hope that team is not us. Haha. I figured I'd be more specific.

I would love to have a wildly inconsisent 60pt. winger. He is a first line winger, Boedker is not.

Okposo is Boedker 2.0, no thanks. I'm also of the opinion we don't need to sign a premiere winger, we have domi and duke who are at the very least top 6 wingers. If we were a winger away from being a cup contender I'd see it.

Okposo is nowhere like Boedker. Besides better production his advanced stats are off the charts compared to Boedker.

 

[Bandit34]

Whenever posters talk poorly about Mikkel Boedker since he's been gone, I can't help but get reminded of this thread.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1678035&highlight=brad+marchand

 

[Matias Maccete]

Whenever posters talk poorly about Mikkel Boedker since he's been gone, I can't help but get reminded of this thread.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1678035&highlight=brad+marchand

I expected that to be way worse.

 

[Jakey53]

Whenever posters talk poorly about Mikkel Boedker since he's been gone, I can't help but get reminded of this thread.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1678035&highlight=brad+marchand

Shows how little we know.

 

[IPreferPi]

Whenever posters talk poorly about Mikkel Boedker since he's been gone, I can't help but get reminded of this thread.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1678035&highlight=brad+marchand

Hindsight is 20/20 and lots can (and did) happen in two years. And who knows if Marchand would be able to be a consistent 25-30 goal scorer without playing with the league's best two-way center in Bergeron.
That thread could have been a lot worse lol.

 

[Mosby]

Highlights of Tippett's radio interview from earlier today. Paraphrasing:

- Domi and Strome told Tippett that Chychrun is a strong defender who made it impossible on both of them to get anything going offensively.

- The team tried every remote possibility to move up to 1 OA for Matthews. Toronto was not interested in moving the pick.

- Despite today's hoopla, Tippett says the team is close on an extension for Shane Doan.

- Team has spoken with a few different FAs and expects to be active in the market.

 

[SniperHF]

- Despite today's hoopla, Tippett says the team is close on an extension for Shane Doan.

.

There was hoopla?

 

[Palmer2Fitz]

I would love to have a wildly inconsisent 60pt. winger. He is a first line winger, Boedker is not.



Okposo is nowhere like Boedker. Besides better production his advanced stats are off the charts compared to Boedker.

I don't think they mean play style of Boedker I think they mean more a long the lines of leaving you wanting more like Boedker did. That's the way I took it anyways.

 

[Mosby]

Morgan's article. Really an extension of Gambo's bit from a week or so ago. Basic synopsis is that the team wants Doan to take a lesser salary and he may not be interested in that. Who knows if there is anything to that though.

I tend to believe they're building a playoff contender that will be more to Doan's liking and, from there, we can fit in his salary.

 

[SniperHF]

Hey Shane, I'm not saying I'm going to give you a 750k salary as team ambassador after you retire, but I'm not not saying it either...

Problem solved.

 

[Sinurgy]

Hey Shane, I'm not saying I'm going to give you a 750k salary as team ambassador after you retire, but I'm not not saying it either...

Problem solved.

haha that's perfect!

 

[XX]

It'd be really weird for Doan to want better players around him all his career and then, when in a position where a few million doesn't matter, hold out.

 

[Jakey53]

I don't think they mean play style of Boedker I think they mean more a long the lines of leaving you wanting more like Boedker did. That's the way I took it anyways.

I understand, and I realize Okposo is invisible at times, but Boedkers inconsistency is legendary around this parts.

 

[AZviaNJ]

I understand, and I realize Okposo is invisible at times, but Boedkers inconsistency is legendary around this parts.

Boeds never had anyone close to Tavares as his center.

 

[RemoAZ]

Being active in FA scares me. I don't want to see a bunch of average at best vets brought in. I'd rather see zero than what they did last year. Hopefully they spend all the available cash on one star and let the talented you fight for the rest of the spots.

 

[Matias Maccete]

It'd be really weird for Doan to want better players around him all his career and then, when in a position where a few million doesn't matter, hold out.

Yeah I think it's likely he's waiting to see who else we can bring in, then he'll sign. Doubtful he wants to handcuff the yotes financially.

 

[AZviaNJ]

Being active in FA scares me. I don't want to see a bunch of average at best vets brought in. I'd rather see zero than what they did last year. Hopefully they spend all the available cash on one star and let the talented you fight for the rest of the spots.

UFA season is fools gold. Good teams build thru the draft. Stay the course young Chayka!

 

[Jakey53]

Boeds never had anyone close to Tavares as his center.

It wouldn't matter, he DOES NOT SHOOT, or skates around the perimeter until he loses it. I like Boedker and I thought last year he might break out, but he returned to his old habits.