Proposal: 2016-17 Trade Rumours and Proposals Thread Part X
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Vesa Awesaka
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I think it would cost wayyy more. Probably would take at least one of brown, chabot or white +. If wheeler was on the market lots of teams would want a piece
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I think people around here would have a fit if we traded Brown or Chabot + for a 30 year old winger. It's similar to trading for Ryan who also had 2 years remaining before UFA, except Wheeler is a fair bit older, though admittedly a better player. We'd be in a position where we have to re-sign a 32 year old winger; if he played well in his first couple years, we'd have to pay through the nose to keep him, if not, we'd have to hera about how it was a bad trade to begin with.
Nope, if we're going after somebody with Brown or Chabot as the bait, it better be an #1 center that's young enough to re-sign to some prime years.
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And the winner for GM of the year is:
The GM who hoodwinked Winnipeg into making that deal. Huzzah!!
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You have literally nothing of value going to Winnipeg except a mid/late first
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Plus there is no way they are trading their captain without an over payment. The time to get Wheeler was in 2011.
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Colin White would have to be going back in any deal involving Wheeler.
Done.
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Let's do it, bros.
Sedins will give us at least 2 years of 50+ points which should be more than enough time until White and/or Brown are ready to step into NHL.
If we are trying to win now, as evident of the Brassard deal, then getting Sedins also makes sense, even if we lose someone like Turris.
We can even then add depth player for 4th line and acquire a Tyutin or someone for depth on D.
Done.
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Let's do it, bros.
Sedins will give us at least 2 years of 50+ points which should be more than enough time until White and/or Brown are ready to step into NHL.
If we are trying to win now, as evident of the Brassard deal, then getting Sedins also makes sense, even if we lose someone like Turris.
We can even then add depth player for 4th line and acquire a Tyutin or someone for depth on D.
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I saw quite enough of the sedins with karlsson in the WC, and do never want to see them with him again....
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I don't think he ever really touched the puck with those 2 puck hogs on the power play
Vesa Awesaka
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Isnt it more likely that neither Brown or White reaches Turris' level of play? Plus i dont think the sedins make us a much better team if they come at the cost of turris.
It seems like a medium-high risk move and we would certainly have to supplement it with other moves to reach contender status
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Yeah, Turris is the best player in that trade, and there isn't much difference at this point between Ryan and the Sedins. All it does is give us a massive hole in the top 6 a season and a half from now. White does not project as a high-scoring 1C type player, and Brown is likely 4 years away. No guarantee of even making the playoffs with the Sedins.
All that trade does, is move Ryans contract. Quite frankly, while I hate that contract, I do think we can get rid of it one way or another. The cap will increase next year with Vegas. Plus, sooner or later Eugene has to pony up with some money - either spend to the cap and/or buyout Ryan (if Ryan really tanks the rest of the way). Teams have unloaded way worse contracts with little difficultly, and without giving up the farm (like those insane trade proposals demanding Chabot and White to take Ryan...wtf?).
All that trade does, is move Ryans contract. Quite frankly, while I hate that contract, I do think we can get rid of it one way or another. The cap will increase next year with Vegas. Plus, sooner or later Eugene has to pony up with some money - either spend to the cap and/or buyout Ryan (if Ryan really tanks the rest of the way). Teams have unloaded way worse contracts with little difficultly, and without giving up the farm (like those insane trade proposals demanding Chabot and White to take Ryan...wtf?).
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Can play both wings, which is nice, but I'm hoping for somebody with more speed. Certainly worth claiming though.
Not saying I'd do that trade, but where did Hoff go in your proposed lineup?
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It was confirmed by Dorion that we put in a claim.
Waivers are tough. Anybody decent is likely to get claimed. A lot of the players on waivers are overrated by fans on this board (see Reid Boucher) because they have name value from like 5 years ago. A player also has to be a big enough different maker to warrant a contract spot.
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First, I doubt this management team would be trading Brown, White or Chabot anytime soon since I think they view them quite highly especially Chabot & White & they are suppose to be building through the draft & development.
Second, why do you think it would cost a lot to re-sign a 32 yr old UFA player even if he is playing well? I would argue that he is making $5.8 now & in two yrs would be closer to $5 mil if not under $5 mil since the league seems to be going younger rapidly. I also think a 30 yr old winger is not quite worth what others on here say but I would guess Winn would not be interested in trading their captain & leading scorer yet since they recently traded their last captain. But I thought he would be a good fit on RW with Brassard & Hoffman & would create a 3rd scoring line.
Well that is nonsense. He has 32 pts & would be tied with Karlsson for most pts on Ottawa right now. I would have loved to have had him on the team in 2011 but he is still worth trading for today because he obviously still plays at a very high level & most likely will continue to play well to the end of his contract & probably beyond.
I do agree that there is very little chance he is made available & it's hard to know what he is worth at his age & whether he would be worth giving up any of our best prospects for but you never know. I imagine Vrbata & Parenteau would be much cheaper but I would not be willing to give up a first for either of them nor a good prospect & Ottawa has no 2nd rd pick at this time. Parenteau UFA being from the area might just be a logical choice & affordable for this team & would not cost a good prospect given his age but he could also be done, who knows.
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I would not do that at all even if it means getting rid of Ryan's contract.
Who would take over the top center position when Sedins ultimately retire in a season or two? If you were to move Turris you package him with something else for a younger upgrade. Not older ~ equal
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Technically yes. But he last played in 14-15. He was under contract last year but missed the entire season due to back injuries.
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