Salary Cap: 2016-17 Roster Building XXVI | Goals and Happiness

[Ogrezilla]

They aren't trading Maatta, and I don't really know why people think there's a realistic chance it will happen. He's 22 and signed to a very reasonable contract for the next 5 seasons.

because there's an expansion draft coming, and we won't want to lose somebody for nothing. If we can trade a D for a forward worth protecting, and then replace the D with a rental for now and a free agent in the summer, then we're in a way better spot long term. If we don't make some sort of deal between now and the expansion draft, we are losing a player we don't want to lose with nothing to show for it.

 

[Shockmaster]

because there's an expansion draft coming, and we won't want to lose somebody for nothing. If we can trade a D for a forward worth protecting, and then replace the D with a rental for now and a free agent in the summer, then we're in a way better spot long term. If we don't make some sort of deal between now and the expansion draft, we are losing a player we don't want to lose with nothing to show for it.

Maatta is a player they are going to protect in the expansion draft, even at the expense of someone else they may not want to lose.

Every team is going to lose somebody for nothing in the expansion draft.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Maatta is a player they are going to protect in the expansion draft, even at the expense of someone else they may not want to lose.

Every team is going to lose somebody for nothing in the expansion draft.

Eh, we'll see. I don't see him as being as important as our 5-6 forwards and I see him as our 4th D going forward. And he's been our 6th D for a few weeks now. He just has a lot of stretches of really bad hockey. If he can be the key part of getting a guy like Duchene, I trade him in a heartbeat.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Im thinking more and more Duchene will be traded during the offseason. I feel like even if the Avs receive a good offer they will think they could get something better after the draft when there is no risk for other teams.

 

[Shockmaster]

Im thinking more and more Duchene will be traded during the offseason. I feel like even if the Avs receive a good offer they will think they could get something better after the draft when there is no risk for other teams.

Could be. From the Colorado perspective they really don't have to move him by the deadline.

 

[66-30-33]

If Schultz and Maatta are out long term should we target Shatty and Kulikov? Playoffs roll around our pairings would be:

Dumo-Letang
Kulikov-Schultz
Maatta-Shattenkirk
Daley
Cole

 

[WayneSid9987]

Way things are goin' atm.
I see JR snagging one of Kulikov, Quincey or Brendan Smith.

I dunno.
Perhaps theres a MAF move up his sleeve...?

 

[JTG]

If Schultz and Maatta are out long term should we target Shatty and Kulikov? Playoffs roll around our pairings would be:

Dumo-Letang
Kulikov-Schultz
Maatta-Shattenkirk
Daley
Cole

The right side of that blueline would run us about 18 million dollars. And Shattenkirk would most certianly be playing ahead of Schultz.

 

[JTG]

Way things are goin' atm.
I see JR snagging one of Kulikov, Quincey or Brendan Smith.

I dunno.
Perhaps theres a MAF move up his sleeve...?

I've always been a huge fan of Brendan Smith. A lot of good young defensemen on the market - Michael Stone, Brendan Smith, Dimitri Kulikov.

 

[66-30-33]

The right side of that blueline would run us about 18 million dollars. And Shattenkirk would most certianly be playing ahead of Schultz.

But Sully...depth...he likey!

 

[DegenX]

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[Tender Rip]

I've always been a huge fan of Brendan Smith. A lot of good young defensemen on the market - Michael Stone, Brendan Smith, Dimitri Kulikov.

I kinda liked the idea of Brendan Smith also. Red Wings fans seem to consider him concentrated human ebola though.... so there's that.

 

[66-30-33]

I kinda liked the idea of Brendan Smith also. Red Wings fans seem to consider him concentrated human ebola though.... so there's that.

Oiler fans thought the the same of Schultz, IIRC Stars fans of Niskanen?

 

[Jacob]

because there's an expansion draft coming, and we won't want to lose somebody for nothing. If we can trade a D for a forward worth protecting, and then replace the D with a rental for now and a free agent in the summer, then we're in a way better spot long term. If we don't make some sort of deal between now and the expansion draft, we are losing a player we don't want to lose with nothing to show for it.

We're losing someone in the expansion draft no matter what. Unless we bribe LV.

 

[Saints11]

I kinda liked the idea of Brendan Smith also. Red Wings fans seem to consider him concentrated human ebola though.... so there's that.

FYI.....Brendan Smith got ripped last night in the NHL Game of the week by Roenick. Basically saying how bad he is and any GM that would want him should beware because he can't play defense.

 

[hagelin1381]

FYI.....Brendan Smith got ripped last night in the NHL Game of the week by Roenick. Basically saying how bad he is and any GM that would want him should beware because he can't play defense.

the same Roenick that said Crosby needed to pay attention to Drouin's work ethic?

 

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

the same Roenick that said Crosby needed to pay attention to Drouin's work ethic?

Pretty sure I trust GMJR's evaluation of a player over Jeremy Roenick's.

 

[Saints11]

Pretty sure I trust GMJR's evaluation of a player over Jeremy Roenick's.

Just stating what was said. Plus, since there hasn't been much said about scouting the Wings, I think their sights are set on someone else.

 

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

Just stating what was said. Plus, since there hasn't been much said about scouting the Wings, I think their sights are set on someone else.

With 2D going out with injuries in this game, their priorities might have changed, though.

 

[Peat]

We're losing someone in the expansion draft no matter what. Unless we bribe LV.

There's a pretty big difference between losing someone like Maatta for free and someone like Scott Wilson though.

 

[Riptide]

Maatta is a player they are going to protect in the expansion draft, even at the expense of someone else they may not want to lose.

Every team is going to lose somebody for nothing in the expansion draft.

Obviously. However there's ways to minimize the value of said player. Trading a D for a C thus allowing us to protect 7F/3D vs 4/4 is one of the easiest ways possible to minimize said loss - especially if we can replace that D (or most of their abilities and TOI) via a different trade for a FA D.

I mean lets say there's a way to get Smith or Kulikov at a semi reasonable price (say a 3rd+). And we can get Duchene for Maatta, 1st, Sprong. Does that not make us a better team this year? Sure we'd have to replace Maatta in the summer (Daley? Or another FA D?), and while that wouldn't be ideal, neither would it be impossible.

There's a pretty big difference between losing someone like Maatta for free and someone like Scott Wilson though.

This.

 

[Riptide]

If Schultz and Maatta are out long term should we target Shatty and Kulikov? Playoffs roll around our pairings would be:

Dumo-Letang
Kulikov-Schultz
Maatta-Shattenkirk
Daley
Cole

I want nothing to do with Shattenkirk (unless it's 1-1 with MAF - which it obviously will not be). He will cost way too much - both to acquire and to resign. It sucks, but other than bringing in the best D we can possibly get at the most reasonable price, I'm not sure how deep we'd want to go. Lets say Schultz has a concussion. How long do you expect him to be out for? The TD is 2 weeks away. It's going to be pretty hard to properly evaluate him within that time span. Maatta, fortunately should be a lot easier. He'll either be ready or he won't be, and they will probably have a decent idea as to when that will be (whether it's days or weeks or months, who knows). But fortunately we have a little time to figure things out.

Also, it's fortunate that we already have 4 decent D, and Ruhwedel who's looked decent when he's been up. Wonder if DP will get a callup to see how he does for a game or two.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

FYI.....Brendan Smith got ripped last night in the NHL Game of the week by Roenick. Basically saying how bad he is and any GM that would want him should beware because he can't play defense.

I remember watching him in the playoffs several times and thinking the exact same thing. It looked like a career winger was put at D and asked to play 20 minutes a night. He does have impressive possession numbers though.

 

[WayneSid9987]

I see Clancey took in the Blues/Nucks game last night as well.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

With the Maatta and Schultz injuries, my Pouliot for Kulikov trade scenario is looking more likely.