TSN: 2016/17 Projected lineup

[Bullseye]

This has likely been asked a dozen times but when can Zaitsev be signed?

He plays for CSKA Moscow. They are down a game in the quarter-finals to Torpedo(if the wikipedia site is up to date).

So as early as next week or as far off as next month.

 

[Leafsman]

He plays for CSKA Moscow. They are down a game in the quarter-finals to Torpedo(if the wikipedia site is up to date).

So as early as next week or as far off as next month.

Oh wow! That's great! Thanks for answering

 

[ACC1224]

He plays for CSKA Moscow. They are down a game in the quarter-finals to Torpedo(if the wikipedia site is up to date).

So as early as next week or as far off as next month.

Awesome, I didn't realize it could be so soon.
Something to look forward to.

 

[jaric1862]

ew do not want Kris Russell as a first pairing guy playing with Rielly. Gogo or Demers would be better

 

[080]

I'm wondering what we're going to do with all our forwards?

Assuming Nylander, Kadri and Bozak up the centre (and Laich, though our 4th line C doesn't matter). So how do we fit all these wingers in?

Soshnikov
Komarov
JVR
Marner
Hyman
Leivo
Michalek
Laine/Pulj (unless we end up 1st or 4th)
Potentially Holland
Potentially Brown

 

[Bardown warrior]

People thinking we will be drafting laine, do you guys see him in the nhl next year?

 

[Apotheosis]

People thinking we will be drafting laine, do you guys see him in the nhl next year?

I personally do. I mean yeah, he could play in the AHL, but he has NHL size, an NHL shot and would benefit more from acclimating to the pace of the NHL from camp and Babcock's system, and he could work with Barbara.

 

[seanlinden]

Lupul would be about the only other player for buyout. Don't see Laich or Greening bought out.
Lupul buyout: 4 years.
Cap hit:
16/17: 1.5 m
(Robidas 3 m cap hit gone)
17/18: 3 m
18/19: 1.5 m
19/20: 1.5 m (Lupul buyout end)
(Horton 5.3 cap hit gone)

Only Kessel 1.2 m remains.

Signing yourself up for $1.5m+ cap hits for the next 4 years doesn't make much sense.

If they are able to find a taker at 50% retained (potentially at this year's deadline), then the cap hit for 17-18 would be $2.6m versus $3m, while the actual salary owed would be under $2m.

Heck, if they just wait a year to do the buyout, the cap hit becomes $2.75m in 17/18 and $1.25m in 18/19. Realistically, the Leafs aren't going to spend to the cap this summer, so there's not much urgency to do it.

 

[seanlinden]

I'm wondering what we're going to do with all our forwards?

Assuming Nylander, Kadri and Bozak up the centre (and Laich, though our 4th line C doesn't matter). So how do we fit all these wingers in?

Soshnikov
Komarov
JVR
Marner
Hyman
Leivo
Michalek
Laine/Pulj (unless we end up 1st or 4th)
Potentially Holland
Potentially Brown

Likely something along the lines of:
Sosh-Kadri-Komarov
JvR-Nylander-Leivo
Lupul/Michalek-Bozak-Hyman
Laich-Holland-Marner
Greening and/or a UFA as a 13th forward.

Babcock has always been a guy who likes players to go to the AHL first, no reason why you can't do that with one of the Finns, or even, Matthews. Connor Brown has missed a ton of time this year due to injury. In all likelihood, I think he needs to start with the Marlies.

 

[D4GGR]

Trade Bernier + Leipsic + Holland + Carrick + 2nd for Trouba + Hellebuyk
Trade Lupul for Bickell + 3rd
Trade Michalek for 3rd at the draft
Trade Laich to WSH and retain half the cap
Draft Matthews because were finally gonna catch a break and win the lottery
Sign Stamkos because every knows hes coming to Toronto
Sign Zaitsev
Sign Vesey

JVR - Stamkos - Nylander
Vesey - Matthews - Marner
Kapanen - Kadri - Soshnikov
Leivo - Komarov - Brown
Hyman
Bickell

Rielly - Trouba
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Percy - Loov
Hunwick

Hellebuyk
Sparks

...and we're set for years to come...

 

[jrgtml67]

Would love to eventually see something like this up front

JVR - Stamkos - Marner
Laine - Nylander - Kapanen
Komarov - Kadri - Soshnikov
Leivo - Holland - Hyman

But there's a good amount of chicken-counting going on there.

funny how tsn omitted marner..whos way to good to benefit from another year in the ohl..outta the recent callups hyman and sosh are locks in my book unless they do a complete 180 in camp next year...nylander looks good but i feel like hes still unsure since he got his bell rung..there are plays esp in the neutral zone he looks hesitant...

in short we have a ton of forward depth..not so much on D i think we need 1 more vet in there for stability so we dont do what edm did...as well i dont see bernier as our future guy...i could see trading bernier signing Reimer back he deserves the #1...im not 100% but im pretty certain the ufa goalie market isnt the best outside reimer and gibson

ps any one know what day we can officially sign zaitsev?

 

[Leafin]

JVR - Stamkos - Marner
Komarov - Matthews - Nylander
Soshnikov - Kadri - Leivo
Lupul - Laich - Michalek

Rielly - XXXX
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Harrington/Percy - Carrick

Andersen / Varlamov
Sparks

 

[lukeleim]

-Trade James Van Riemsdyk, Stuart Percy and Penguins' 1st round pick in 2016 for Sami Vatanen and Frederik Andersen
-Draft Auston Matthews and Carter Hart
-Buyout Lupul and Jared Cowen

-Resign Nazem Kadri four-year contract for $20 million
-Resign Morgan Rielly six-year contract for $31.2 million
-Resign Peter Holland two-year contract for $1.6 million
-Resign Connor Carrick one-year contract for $700,000
-Resign Frank Corrado one-year contract for $700,000
-Resign Sami Vatanen four-year contract for $20 million
-Resign Frederik Andersen three-year contract for $15 million
-Resign Josh Leivo, Colin Smith, Sam Carrick, Scott Harrington and Rich Clune

-Sign Nikita Zaitsev one-year ELC
-Sign Jimmy Vesey three-year ELC
-Sign Mikkel Boedker four-year contract for $20 million

2016-17 Toronto Maple Leafs

Leo Komarov - Nazem Kadri - Nikita Soshnikov
William Nylander - Auston Matthews - Mikkel Boedker
Jimmy Vesey - Tyler Bozak - Zach Hyman/Mitch Marner
Peter Holland - Brooks Laich - Milan Michalek
Colin Greening

Morgan Rielly - Sami Vatanen
Jake Gardiner - Nikita Zaitsev
Matt Hunwick - Connor Carrick/Frank Corrado
Scott Harrington

Frederik Andersen
Jonathan Bernier

 

[Koolboss]

-Trade James Van Riemsdyk, Stuart Percy and Penguins' 1st round pick in 2016 for Sami Vatanen and Frederik Andersen
-Draft Auston Matthews and Carter Hart
-Buyout Lupul and Jared Cowen

-Resign Nazem Kadri four-year contract for $20 million
-Resign Morgan Rielly six-year contract for $31.2 million
-Resign Peter Holland two-year contract for $1.6 million
-Resign Connor Carrick one-year contract for $700,000
-Resign Frank Corrado one-year contract for $700,000
-Resign Sami Vatanen four-year contract for $20 million
-Resign Frederik Andersen three-year contract for $15 million
-Resign Josh Leivo, Colin Smith, Sam Carrick, Scott Harrington and Rich Clune

-Sign Nikita Zaitsev one-year ELC
-Sign Jimmy Vesey three-year ELC
-Sign Mikkel Boedker four-year contract for $20 million

2016-17 Toronto Maple Leafs

Leo Komarov - Nazem Kadri - Nikita Soshnikov
William Nylander - Auston Matthews - Mikkel Boedker
Jimmy Vesey - Tyler Bozak - Zach Hyman/Mitch Marner
Peter Holland - Brooks Laich - Milan Michalek
Colin Greening

Morgan Rielly - Sami Vatanen
Jake Gardiner - Nikita Zaitsev
Matt Hunwick - Connor Carrick/Frank Corrado
Scott Harrington

Frederik Andersen
Jonathan Bernier

Looks good to me, even if we don't get Austin Mathews.

 

[frankthetank91]

JVR-Stamkos-Marner
Laine-Nylander-Komarov
Soshnikov-Kadri-Hyman
Laich-Bozak-Holland

Still Lupul, Michalek, Greening and even Laich to get rid of.

We do have way too many wingers and D. Hopefully we can unload but it will be tough.

 

[Faltorvo]

Lupul would be about the only other player for buyout. Don't see Laich or Greening bought out.
Lupul buyout: 4 years.
Cap hit:
16/17: 1.5 m
(Robidas 3 m cap hit gone)
17/18: 3 m
18/19: 1.5 m
19/20: 1.5 m (Lupul buyout end)
(Horton 5.3 cap hit gone)

Only Kessel 1.2 m remains.

Yup or we could float Lupul out there at 50% cap retention and see what happens.

 

[Nithoniniel]

Trade Bernier + Leipsic + Holland + Carrick + 2nd for Trouba + Hellebuyk
Trade Lupul for Bickell + 3rd
Trade Michalek for 3rd at the draft
Trade Laich to WSH and retain half the cap
Draft Matthews because were finally gonna catch a break and win the lottery
Sign Stamkos because every knows hes coming to Toronto
Sign Zaitsev
Sign Vesey

JVR - Stamkos - Nylander
Vesey - Matthews - Marner
Kapanen - Kadri - Soshnikov
Leivo - Komarov - Brown
Hyman
Bickell

Rielly - Trouba
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Percy - Loov
Hunwick

Hellebuyk
Sparks

...and we're set for years to come...

No offense, but your scenario is based on an unlikely chance of winning the draft, an unlikely signing of Stamkos and the most unrealistic trade I've seen on these boards.

Stick to reality instead.

 

[Faltorvo]

I'm wondering what we're going to do with all our forwards?

Assuming Nylander, Kadri and Bozak up the centre (and Laich, though our 4th line C doesn't matter). So how do we fit all these wingers in?

Soshnikov
Komarov
JVR
Marner
Hyman
Leivo
Michalek
Laine/Pulj (unless we end up 1st or 4th)
Potentially Holland
Potentially Brown

well, they will carry 9 forwards at the very least

so your only looking at knocking 1 name off that list

if Hollands wants to much as a RFA, well that solves that or Brown,Laine start on the marlies.

 

[Faltorvo]

JVR - Stamkos - Marner
Komarov - Matthews - Nylander
Soshnikov - Kadri - Leivo
Lupul - Laich - Michalek

Rielly - XXXX
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Harrington/Percy - Carrick

Andersen / Varlamov
Sparks

I'm not entirely sure that fits under the cap

 

[Faltorvo]

No offense, but your scenario is based on an unlikely chance of winning the draft, an unlikely signing of Stamkos and the most unrealistic trade I've seen on these boards.

Stick to reality instead.

Maybe your jaded?

but those two things are well grounded in reality.

 

[deletethis]

2016 Summer Buyout Shopping List:

Cap Hit($M) | 2016-17 | 2017-18 | 2018-19 | 2019-20

Jared Cowen|-0.650|0.750
Brooks Laich|1.833|1.333
Milan Michalek|1.333|1.333
Colin Greening|0.517|1.067
Jonathan Bernier|2.717|0.717
Joffrey Lupul|1.500|3.000|1.500|1.500

Already Bought Out
Tim Gleason|1.333|1.333

Retained
Phil Kessel|1.200|1.200|1.200|1.200

Total | 9.783 | 10.733 | 2.70 | 2.70

I wouldn't bother to buy out any of Laich, Michalek, Greening or Bernier:

Cap Hit($M) | 2016-17 | 2017-18 | 2018-19 | 2019-20

Jared Cowen|-0.650|0.750
Joffrey Lupul|1.500|3.000|1.500|1.500

Already Bought Out
Tim Gleason|1.333|1.333

Retained
Phil Kessel|1.200|1.200|1.200|1.200

Total | 3.383 | 6.283 | 2.70 | 2.70

 

[deletethis]

Something tells me that JVR, Bozak and Lupul will be heavily shopped this summer and none of them will return.

Komarov - Kadri - Soshnikov
Michalek - UFA.Trade - Nylander
Leipsic - UFA.Trade - Hyman
Greening - Froese - Holland
Laich/Leivo

Gardiner - Hunwick
Rielly - Carrick
UFA,Trade - Marincin
Loov

 

[-DeMo-]

funny how tsn omitted marner..whos way to good to benefit from another year in the ohl..outta the recent callups hyman and sosh are locks in my book unless they do a complete 180 in camp next year...nylander looks good but i feel like hes still unsure since he got his bell rung..there are plays esp in the neutral zone he looks hesitant...

in short we have a ton of forward depth..not so much on D i think we need 1 more vet in there for stability so we dont do what edm did...as well i dont see bernier as our future guy...i could see trading bernier signing Reimer back he deserves the #1...im not 100% but im pretty certain the ufa goalie market isnt the best outside reimer and gibson

ps any one know what day we can officially sign zaitsev?

they didn't omit Marner at all they had him as the 13th forward the pic in the OP was taken before they finished the roster. Bobby Mac said if they felt Marner wasn't completely ready, that they would spreed out his 9 games and maybe send him on a conditioning stint in the AHL(which I think can only be 14 days tho not sure), and therefore that would get them to the World Junior Camps and then after the WJC they could make up there mind on OHL/NHL.

 

[Faltorvo]

Something tells me that JVR, Bozak and Lupul will be heavily shopped this summer and none of them will return.

Komarov - Kadri - Soshnikov
Michalek - UFA.Trade - Nylander
Leipsic - UFA.Trade - Hyman
Greening - Froese - Holland
Laich/Leivo

Gardiner - Hunwick
Rielly - Carrick
UFA,Trade - Marincin
Loov

I think your not far off the mark here BUT

trades are so hard to call/predict these days.

 

[deletethis]

they didn't omit Marner at all they had him as the 13th forward the pic in the OP was taken before they finished the roster. Bobby Mac said if they felt Marner wasn't completely ready, that they would spreed out his 9 games and maybe send him on a conditioning stint in the AHL(which I think can only be 14 days tho not sure), and therefore that would get them to the World Junior Camps and then after the WJC they could make up there mind on OHL/NHL.

I actually like this. It's not just a taste of the 9 least competitive games of the NHL season at the start of the season. It's several months of professional practice time at a level far beyond the OHL. If he's allowed to play in AHL games on a conditioning stint (this is news to me), those games would tremendously valuable as well.