Prospect Info: 2016-17 Flyers Prospects - Top 20 SKATERS, #1

[Curufinwe]

This year we are splitting the polls into a top 20 for skaters, and a top 5 for goalies. This is the first poll for SKATERS.

Alt, Mark
Allison, Wade
Amorosa, Terrance
Aube-Kubel, Nicolas
Bardreau, Cole
Bernhardt, David
Bunnaman, Connor
Dove-McFalls, Samuel
Drake, David
Fazleev, Radel
Friedman, Mark
Goulbourne, Tyrell
Hagg, Robert
Hogberg, Linus
Kase, David
Konecny, Travis
Laberge, Pascal
Laczynski, Tanner
Leier, Taylor
Lindblom, Oskar
Martel, Danick
Marody, Cooper
Morin, Sam
Myers, Phil
Pettersson, Jesper
Provorov, Ivan
Rubtsov, German
Sanheim, Travis
Salinitri, Anthony
Straka, Petr
Twarynski, Carson
Vorobyov, Mikhail
Weal, Jordan
Willcox, Reece
Vasiliev, Valeri

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[JWEKD]

Wade Allison is amongst us.

 

[Random Forest]

First two/three should be pretty easy. #4 is where it gets interesting when you have Morin/Myers/Rubstov. My top ten as of now:

1. Ivan Provorov
2. Travis Sanheim
3. Travis Konecny
4. German Rubtsov
5. Sam Morin
6. Phil Myers
7. Pascal Laberge
8. Oskar Lindblom
9. Nicolas Aube-Kubel
10. Wade Allison

(subject to change by the minute...)

 

[Schwarbomb]

Michael Parks

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Can someone explain this one to me - do we just choose the top 20 from this list, putting a check next to the 20 names we think are tops?

(I realize this is a naive question - feel free to mock me )

 

[Curufinwe]

You can only vote for one guy per poll.

There will be 20 polls.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

You can only vote for one guy per poll.

There will be 20 polls.

I got you, so I just vote for the one above who I think is the best. Thanks for the answer. I saw all these last year and didn't know what the hell was going on, but I was too shy to ask

 

[Striiker]

First two/three should be pretty easy. #4 is where it gets interesting when you have Morin/Myers/Rubstov. My top ten as of now:

1. Ivan Provorov
2. Travis Sanheim
3. Travis Konecny
4. German Rubtsov
5. Sam Morin
6. Phil Myers
7. Pascal Laberge
8. Oskar Lindblom
9. Nicolas Aube-Kubel
10. Wade Allison

(subject to change by the minute...)

I have the same list, except NAK and Allison are flipped.

 

[Newest sens fan]

Michael Parks

Add another one for Parks from me. Pour one out for the homie

 

[tade]

Provy, Sanheim next.

 

[Broad Street Elite]

Looks like we are good for number 2 already lol.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I see Ghosts Beer was the only one who voted for Allison.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Provolone ftw

 

[Jray42]

I did it too fast and accidentally voted for Jesper Pettersson

 

[FLYguy3911]

Looks like I'm in even smaller company this year.

Provorov is great, but I went with Sanheim because he's got another level or two when the puck is on his stick. He gets to the high percentage areas of the ice with a lot more ease than any defenseman his age. It is incredibly hard to score in today's game and as we saw when Gostisbehere came up, guys who can create their own offense have immense value to a team. While Provorov is more advanced in other areas of the game, I have more confidence in Sanheim closing the gap in those areas than I do in Provorov learning to making plays like these:

https://gfycat.com/SecondaryMintyAustrianpinscher
https://gfycat.com/SeparateShowyGaur
https://gfycat.com/AridWhisperedBrocketdeer
https://gfycat.com/ValidYawningIndianhare
https://gfycat.com/FixedUnimportantHeifer
https://gfycat.com/LankyOccasionalIslandwhistler
https://gfycat.com/MilkyPowerfulBeagle
https://gfycat.com/FeminineWeeklyDikkops
https://gfycat.com/TightPerfectCassowary
https://gfycat.com/PaleFreeImperialeagle
https://gfycat.com/EvilEvilClownanemonefish
https://gfycat.com/MagnificentViciousAlbertosaurus
https://gfycat.com/FlusteredBrokenGroundbeetle

 

[onlylordsvsmorebp]

I did it too fast and accidentally voted for Jesper Pettersson

i was wondering who the hell went pettersson...then i thought you might be related...

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Looks like I'm in even smaller company this year.

Provorov is great, but I went with Sanheim because he's got another level or two when the puck is on his stick. He gets to the high percentage areas of the ice with a lot more ease than any defenseman his age. It is incredibly hard to score in today's game and as we saw when Gostisbehere came up, guys who can create their own offense have immense value to a team. While Provorov is more advanced in other areas of the game, I have more confidence in Sanheim closing the gap in those areas than I do in Provorov learning to making plays like these:

https://gfycat.com/SecondaryMintyAustrianpinscher
https://gfycat.com/SeparateShowyGaur
https://gfycat.com/AridWhisperedBrocketdeer
https://gfycat.com/ValidYawningIndianhare
https://gfycat.com/FixedUnimportantHeifer
https://gfycat.com/LankyOccasionalIslandwhistler
https://gfycat.com/MilkyPowerfulBeagle
https://gfycat.com/FeminineWeeklyDikkops
https://gfycat.com/TightPerfectCassowary
https://gfycat.com/PaleFreeImperialeagle
https://gfycat.com/EvilEvilClownanemonefish
https://gfycat.com/MagnificentViciousAlbertosaurus
https://gfycat.com/FlusteredBrokenGroundbeetle

In "FeminineWeeklyDikkops" he was just like "**** you, I'm keeping this puck!"

 

[deadhead]

Provorov of course, as good as Sanheim might become, Provorov is in the conversation for the top prospect not in the NHL right now. Sanheim might be better in five years but he has to answer a lot of "IFs." Provorov was a man among boys in junior hockey.

Dominant defensemen are worth more than top forwards unless they're generational players. That's because someone like Provorov may end up being a 25 minute a night two way player that controls games.

 

[nuclear reactor]

Where is Parks?

1. Provorov
2. Sanheim
3. Rubtsov
4. Konecny
5. Myers
6. Laberge
7. Stolarz
8. Morin
9. Lindblom
10. Hagg

 

[Random Forest]

My thing with Sanheim is that I just have no idea how to evaluate how those skills will translate. How many prospects have the type of skill set that allows them to routinely make plays like that? I mean, you don't even see Karlsson or Doughty make those kinds of plays too often. Maybe Burns... but it's why we've struggled to come up with a comparable player for him all these years.

He does a great job of capitalizing on what his opponents give him to work with. I've always wondered how his game will adjust when opponents in the NHL give him far less. There's no doubt he has the skill to do things that no other defender his age can do, but he won't be able to make those plays with the same regularity in the NHL, so he is going to need to adapt a bit. That's not to be negative at all either. His skill set is just so unique that it makes it so difficult to project at the NHL level.

I'm definitely not betting against a 6'4 defender who can make plays like that though. I have little doubt that he'll be a valuable NHLer. Just in the context of a comparison with Provorov, this is what leads me to definitively have Provorov ahead for now.

Starting the season in Lehigh Valley will do a lot to reveal the answers to these questions.

 

[whitstifier]

My thing with Sanheim is that I just have no idea how to evaluate how those skills will translate. How many prospects have the type of skill set that allows them to routinely make plays like that? I mean, you don't even see Karlsson or Doughty make those kinds of plays too often. Maybe Burns... but it's why we've struggled to come up with a comparable player for him all these years.

He does a great job of capitalizing on what his opponents give him to work with. I've always wondered how his game will adjust when opponents in the NHL give him far less. There's no doubt he has the skill to do things that no other defender his age can do, but he won't be able to make those plays with the same regularity in the NHL, so he is going to need to adapt a bit. That's not to be negative at all either. His skill set is just so unique that it makes it so difficult to project at the NHL level.

I'm definitely not betting against a 6'4 defender who can make plays like that though. I have little doubt that he'll be a valuable NHLer. Just in the context of a comparison with Provorov, this is what leads me to definitively have Provorov ahead for now.

Starting the season in Lehigh Valley will do a lot to reveal the answers to these questions.

Yeah, those highlights are pretty ridiculous. It's tough for me to imagine him pulling that stuff in the NHL.

 

[Patrick Division]

Michael Parks

Parks!!!

 

[sobrien]

Looks like I'm in even smaller company this year.

Provorov is great, but I went with Sanheim because he's got another level or two when the puck is on his stick. He gets to the high percentage areas of the ice with a lot more ease than any defenseman his age. It is incredibly hard to score in today's game and as we saw when Gostisbehere came up, guys who can create their own offense have immense value to a team. While Provorov is more advanced in other areas of the game, I have more confidence in Sanheim closing the gap in those areas than I do in Provorov learning to making plays like these:

https://gfycat.com/SecondaryMintyAustrianpinscher
https://gfycat.com/SeparateShowyGaur
https://gfycat.com/AridWhisperedBrocketdeer
https://gfycat.com/ValidYawningIndianhare
https://gfycat.com/FixedUnimportantHeifer
https://gfycat.com/LankyOccasionalIslandwhistler
https://gfycat.com/MilkyPowerfulBeagle
https://gfycat.com/FeminineWeeklyDikkops
https://gfycat.com/TightPerfectCassowary
https://gfycat.com/PaleFreeImperialeagle
https://gfycat.com/EvilEvilClownanemonefish
https://gfycat.com/MagnificentViciousAlbertosaurus
https://gfycat.com/FlusteredBrokenGroundbeetle

And I'm considering dropping Sanheim a couple spots this year, because there's an inkling of concern that I have that his skills won't translate, and/or he'll end up closer to his floor than his ceiling. I may put Konecny and Rubtsov over him.

 

[Alex91]

^ Totally agree. Sanheim also has that sleeper look/play to him that sometimes makes him seem like he isn't trying on D, even though he is shutting people down. His reach and recover speed is amazing. When I watch him play, at times it seems like doesn't have to try to be great. Where as Provorov you can tell is thinking two steps ahead. I am really curious to see how his game translates. I really wish I had more access to Phantoms games now that HS is done.

 

[BackWithaVengeance]

In the near furure, maybe Sanheim.

Today? Provorov.

Next plz.