2015 Re-Draft, you have the 3rd pick overall

[DRW204]

barzal

 

[LeafFever]

Barzal, then Provorov

In hindsight, Marner went too high

Strome was picked before Marner...
Strome has 10 NHL points, Marner has 130

 

[PWJunior]

Tiers

McDavid

Eichel/Barzal

Werenski/Provorov

Rantanen/Aho/Marner/Boeser

 

[LeafFever]

Marner will be seen as better within a few weeks of the new season. 61 and 69 points in his first 2 seasons without a full year in a top 6 role.
I've said it before, 69 points with 16:28 of TOI, only Laine put up that type of production with that little TOI. Now he's playing with Tavares.
IMO, He's a contender for the Art Ross this season.

 

[Stuzchuk]

1. Mcdavid
-------
2. Eichel
3. Barzal
-------
4. Provorov
5. Marner
6. Werenski
-------
7. Rantanen
8. Boeser
9. Aho
10. Connor

pretty much this for me as well (added my tiers)

 

[Cotton]

This again eh? How many points you predict for Matthews this year, now that he's getting the gift of shelter from JT.

While I agree it's too early to 'call', Barzal is certainly in the lead right now for anyone who can shed draft bias.

Because of how odd last season was I would hesitate to rank any of the first year players. Beyond one years samples vs two+, I could easily see Brock Boeser playing a full campaign and potting only 22 goals, or Barzal having 55pts year. Not only could scoring normalize league wide, but teams will play these guys harder this time around and both have seen valuable teammates leave that made things easier on them in one way or another.

 

[Erndog]

Something like:

Aho-McDavid-Marner
Connor-Eichel-Rantanen
Debrusk-Barzal-Boeser
Beauvillier-Zacha-Koneckny

Provorov-Werenski
Hanifin-Chabot
Dermott-Carlo

Samsonov
Blackwood

Forget all the other posts here, take a look at this...

That's a pretty incredible team you can assemble from basically just the TOP 37 PICKS!

(And it's still missing a few good NHLers like Meier and Dunn).


Kinda crazy the 3rd overall pick wouldn't be near this team... yet.

 

[1972]

This thread makes me sad.

This draft has multiple players who have been stars for two years now and Strome isn't even a regular, I can see how this would hurt...

 

[FlyTimmo]

McDs
Barzal
Eichel
Werenski
Hanifin
Provorov
Aho
Rantanen
Marner
Boeser
Connor

Yikes

 

[teravaineSAROS]

Provorov or Batzal, with Aho as an honourable mention

 

[Mrb1p]

Yikes

Yikes Provorov had 9 more points how can this be right?

 

[FlyTimmo]

Yikes Provorov had 9 more points how can this be right?

Y I K E S...

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Yikes Provorov had 9 more points how can this be right?

Huh? You're going to need to do better than this to justify that strange opinion

 

[Mrb1p]

Huh? You're going to need to do better than this to justify that strange opinion

Strange opinion? What if I think Hanifin wasnt given free reign of his team ? What if I think Hanifin hasnt hit his potential and Provorov is close to/has hit his?

 

[X66]

Man this was one draft that you could not miss out on, anyone that did holds a huge L.

 

[FlyTimmo]

Huh? You're going to need to do better than this to justify that strange opinion

It isn't just Provorov. He has Hanifin above Boeser, Marner, Rantanen and Aho.

 

[Notsince67]

Yeah I say Eichel, because Barzal would be off the board by 3.

1.McJesus
2.Barzal
3.Eichel

T-4.
Rantanen
Werenski
Provorov
Marner
Boeser
Aho

I don't really have a strong preference for how to order that amazing group of six. They're all close to me.

Rantanen played with the second highest TOI.QoT teammates in the league among all players.
Methinks his stats are a bit padded

 

[KingTux]

So many great options. At this point I guess it depends on your team need, although I don't agree its the best solution.

If I need a forward, I pick Barzal.
If I need a defenseman, I toss a coin between Provorov and Werenski.

 

[The Burdened]

Provorov
Barzal
Rantanen
Boeser
Werenski
Marner

 

[The Macho King]

Provorov for me.

 

[mja]

Strange opinion? What if I think Hanifin wasnt given free reign of his team ? What if I think Hanifin hasnt hit his potential and Provorov is close to/has hit his?

Provorov doesn't even get first unit PP time and he still put up 17 goals and 41 assists, and it's not like he's going to get worse defensively as he enters his mid-20's, which is still a couple years away. Give Provorov first unit PP time and he breaks 50 points rather easily, it's just that's not going to be in the cards unless Ghost gets injured.

 

[Mrb1p]

Provorov doesn't even get first unit PP time and he still put up 17 goals and 41 assists, and it's not like he's going to get worse defensively as he enters his mid-20's, which is still a couple years away. Give Provorov first unit PP time and he breaks 50 points rather easily, it's just that's not going to be in the cards unless Ghost gets injured.

Not disputing any of that.

Notice that I didnt once question Provorovs quality as a player.

 

[mja]

Not disputing any of that.

Notice that I didnt once question Provorovs quality as a player.

I'm rebutting your assertion that he's close to / has already hit his potential. He clearly has room for further growth.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Tiers

McDavid

Eichel/Barzal

Werenski/Provorov

Rantanen/Aho/Marner/Boeser

Exactly as I see it too! I think right now the top 5 are pretty clear. Could change.
What a great draft. I could see Provorov moving up to that second group soon.

 

[major major]

Rantanen played with the second highest TOI.QoT teammates in the league among all players.
Methinks his stats are a bit padded

Yeah you're right. The QoT stat by itself doesn't really mean that much to me, but I checked his line stats at corsica hockey, and Rantanen didn't have any good results without Mackinnon.