Crouse I think has a high ceiling, but I'm still afraid of using 7th overall on a possible Lucic. Probably why I'd rather go for Connor because he'd have a higher chance of being a legit scoring threat in the NHL while still being a very good two-way player.
You wouldn't take a Lucic 7th overall? What are you expecting out of the pick?
Crouse is a more complete player than Lucic anyway. Whether he becomes as physically dominating is another story.
Here is Hanifin's comparables.
http://www.coppernblue.com/2015/6/22/8824083/noah-hanifin-comparables
These comparables have me thinking Provorov will be the best dman from this draft class in the end. I really hope he is there at 7.
I'm hoping they do Crouse tomorrow.
Am I missing something? There's two comparables within the last decade and they are both a year older when the played in the NCAA. The number of 17 year old defensemen to play college hockey is a very short list.
Austin Wagner is a guy I could see the Flyers targeting with their second pick if he's still on the board.
He's got good size (needs to still fill out weight wise) along with good all around skating & defensive play. His offensive game is growing & steadily improved in that area as the year went on this past year. He played his whole draft year as a 17 year old which is encouraging as he could just be a little beyond in his maturity compared to others.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=161117
Paddock was his coach this year. Not sure what the relationship with him is like anymore.
I've been watching clips of Denis Guryanov.
People rave about Zacha's explosiveness, skill, and shot... Guryanov beats him in all three.
I sincerely would be happy with Guryanov at 7.
Yup. Very impressive physical tools. Top 10 talent easily, but a lot of risk to take him that high.
Hold on a second.
Statistically, Provorov just had as good a year as Sanheim did...yet did it as a rookie and while 9 months younger.
Everyone here hypes Sanheim to be a possible #1, yet Provorov doesn't have much upside?
Must be the same people who said Ekblad was a man amongst boys and would not be near effective once in the NHL. Provorov deserves all the hype he is getting. He earned it.
Brandon scored 51 more goals than Calgary. That's a ton. Brandon scored 78 PP goals. Calgary scored 59. Didn't Flyguy post saying that Sanheim only had 35% of his points on the PP and Provorov was over 50%? Sanheim wasn't even on the top PP unit for a decent chunk of the season. If he had been, his totals blow away Provorov. It's my understanding that Provorov spent the entire year on the top unit, and stats seem to indicate he did. Just reciting the raw point totals doesn't tell the story here. Sanheim's season was much more impressive.
I understand Provorov is younger, but he's also much more physically developed than Sanheim. Sanheim is still growing. Provorov is maxed out. I don't know how it's even debatable that Sanheim doesn't have more upside.
Sanheim 23/65 35% of his points were on the PP.
Provorov 34/61 53% of his points were on the PP.
Sanheim .63 ES PPG
Provorov .45 ES PPG
Thomas Chabot had as many ES points as Provorov on a worse team and I don't hear people talking about him being in the same class as Provorov offensively.
Not a hard or fast rule or anything, but to people that wonder why Brandon Gormley isn't doing anything in the NHL, look at the percentage of points he got on the PP to what he got at ES in the Q. Those PP points don't come as easy in the NHL.
And as you mentioned Brandon was the highest scoring team in the league. If they switched teams, I don't think Provorov puts up nearly the same numbers on Calgary. Go back to what he did in the USHL on a good team that didn't score as much. Compare that to what Hanifin and Werenski did last year. It will put things into perspective. He'll be a productive player at the next level if given the opportunity, but for people that just look at his numbers and expect to see an Erik Karlsson type player, you will be disappointed.
