Prospect Info: 2015-16 Top 20 Flyers Prospects, #4

[Haute Couturier]

Gotta go with Konecny again since he's my #3.

Same here.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Went with Konecny. I'm just not sure what kind of player Ghost will be at the NHL level. I feel like for him to truly pan out he'll have to be a very special player. Konecny seems like a guaranteed 3rd winger at the least. A player you win championships with even if he doesn't reach his offensive potential in the NHL. I don't see that same type of realistic floor with Ghost. I feel like he has way less margin for error.

Guaranteed? Would have went a lot higher in the draft if that were the case.

 

[Quenda]

If I could vote, I'd throw my hat in the ring for Ghost too.

Like him over Morin for starting next season.

 

[daynus]

This is crazy and unfamiliar turf for us. our 4 top prospects are d. Yah that is gonna be a very good unit.

 

[Protest]

Guaranteed? Would have went a lot higher in the draft if that were the case.

He was projected too, and if he was a couple inches taller or didn't have an injury history he would have. *Injuries aside*, he's guaranteed to be at least a 3rd line winger. His skill set and compete level will make him an effective checker if his offense doesn't translate. Guys like him don't completely bust unless it's due to injuries or something out of the ordinary like substance abuse. The only question about him is if he'll stay healthy.

 

[FLYguy3911]

He was projected too, and if he was a couple inches taller or didn't have an injury history he would have. *Injuries aside*, he's guaranteed to be at least a 3rd line winger. His skill set and compete level will make him an effective checker if his offense doesn't translate. Guys like him don't completely bust unless it's due to injuries or something out of the ordinary like substance abuse. The only question about him is if he'll stay healthy.

Projections? By who? The "experts"? They mean nothing in the big picture.

If you like Konecny better that's fine, but I just don't think he's guaranteed to be anything (especially in relation to Gostisbehere). I'm hopeful he can be a top 6 guy, but durability can often be a deciding factor in whether a player reaches that level or not.

 

[TheDrizzle81]

We should revisit this poll 3-5 years from now. The fact our top 7 or so are all #1 prospects in our eyes makes me wonder how we redo this list later on.

 

[Rebels57]

Guaranteed? Would have went a lot higher in the draft if that were the case.

He only slipped to 24 because of Bostons terrible drafting.

 

[FLYguy3911]

He only slipped to 24 because of Bostons terrible drafting.

Yeah...not exactly. They had two reaches and there was still a chance Debrusk was going in the 20s anyway. When Nick Merkley goes 30th, there's no guarantee Konecny doesn't slide in a similar fashion. I really like the kid, but he doesn't come without question marks.

 

[Striiker]

If anything Boston caused him to slip 3 spaces... that's it.

He fell because he has some obvious questions, namely his size and injury history. There's no denying that there's some risk involved with him, but when you've already taken a player like Provorov in that draft you can take some risks.

I'm glad he did fall though, I have high hopes for him.

 

[CutOnDime97]

Went with Laughton.

I really think he'll be something special when he gets a full chance in the NHL.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

How do you look at who voted again? I want to know who the dedicated soul is that is keeping up with the Micheal Parks gag from last year.

 

[BreadTM]

How do you look at who voted again? I want to know who the dedicated soul is that is keeping up with the Micheal Parks gag from last year.

Click on the number of votes for any player (as long as it's not 0) and it'll show you who has voted for who.

 

[Hakroach]

Went with Laughton.

I really think he'll be something special when he gets a full chance in the NHL.

So did I. These three are very close in my opinion but Laughton is the most NHL ready of all our prospects.

I think Laughton and Konecny have the same upside but currently Laughton is clearly ahead of him.

Ghost has more potential and raw skill but it is hard to project where he will end up. As far as I can see he might be the next Andy Delmore or the next Kevin Shattenkirk. His injuries last season had a very bad timing considering his development.

 

[CanuckistanFlyerfan]

Projections? By who? The "experts"? They mean nothing in the big picture.

If you like Konecny better that's fine, but I just don't think he's guaranteed to be anything (especially in relation to Gostisbehere). I'm hopeful he can be a top 6 guy, but durability can often be a deciding factor in whether a player reaches that level or not.

In relation to Gostisbehere? Durability concerns? Konecny missed 8 games....Ghost missed almost the entire season.

 

[Protest]

Projections? By who? The "experts"? They mean nothing in the big picture.

That's really not true. Generally they mean at least something. The guys projected to go in the top 20 or so of a given draft are going to be the best group of players in the draft, and on average are going to be at least solid NHL players. You may find someone outside of those guys that is better than most of them, and you'll definitely find a few in there that won't make it, but you won't find another group of 20 or so players that come close to them. In relation to Konecny, it means he has a great shot of being a solid NHL player.

If you like Konecny better that's fine, but I just don't think he's guaranteed to be anything (especially in relation to Gostisbehere). I'm hopeful he can be a top 6 guy, but durability can often be a deciding factor in whether a player reaches that level or not.

I understand that, which is why I said it. I get that you don't want to say anyone is a guarantee, but players with his talent, compete level, and willingness to play a two-way game can be effective checking forwards even if their offense fails. If he's not able to play his game, he'll still be able to be effective in a different role. Outside of injuries I don't see much that would hold him back from being an NHL player, and I really do not believe you can predict or project injuries. With Ghost, I don't see what he can be if he's not able to play his game at the NHL level.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

How can it not be Laughton?

 

[Jack de la Hoya]

How can it not be Laughton?

If you think Laughton tops out as a 3c and Ghost will be a top-4d?

I haven't figured out Konecny vs Laughton yet--might be a case of ceiling over floor.

It looks like #5 is going to be a very short vote either way, and that Laughton will end up 6. After that, it gets a bit more interesting.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

If you think Laughton tops out as a 3c and Ghost will be a top-4d?

I haven't figured out Konecny vs Laughton yet--might be a case of ceiling over floor.

It looks like #5 is going to be a very short vote either way, and that Laughton will end up 6. After that, it gets a bit more interesting.

Fair enough. I think Laughton tops out at a 3C simply because of the other options the Flyers have at center. I think on another team he could be a 2C, and he should be an NHL regular this year (probably could have been last year too).

 

[FLYguy3911]

In relation to Gostisbehere? Durability concerns? Konecny missed 8 games....Ghost missed almost the entire season.

No not durability. NHL outcome. I don't think Konecny is any more or less a guarantee than Gostisbehere. I don't think it's inconceivable to think Gostisbehere could out score Konecny in the NHL.

 

[sa cyred]

How can it not be Laughton?

Comes down to how you view "Top Prospects". Some look at it as high potential. Others closeness to hitting a lower potential (like Laughton as a 3rd liner). Others are a mix of both.

 

[Sniped]

Gostisbehere. I think some forget just how good this kid is. That Phantoms team fell apart when he went down.

Agreed. Ghost is my vote.

 

[Curufinwe]

After 177 votes Ghost leads by 10. Should I call it now and start poll #5?

 

[OurSaviorGhostBear]

After 177 votes Ghost leads by 10. Should I call it now and start poll #5?

Yes you should

 

[Lindberg]

How can it not be Laughton?

How can it be Scott Laughton? I think a lot of people have forgotten how dynamic Gostisbehere is. Did people also forget what Terry Murray said about Ghost when he just went back to no contact skating? He has the two most important skills (hockey IQ and skating) that are needed in today's NHL.