2014 Training Camps announced

[Llewzaher]

Did Gagne play? was he hurt from last game ?

 

[Matias Maccete]

Did Gagne play? was he hurt from last game ?

Gagner and hanzal both didn't play.

 

[Jakey53]

Gaudet scores. Im beggining to think some of our prospects have become expendable.

A Reider/Lessio plus Korpi/Erat could be enticing for a top six.

Maybe some of our vets have become expendable.
It finally looks like some of the kids are making things interesting.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

So, of course, Gaudet and Samuelsson are both sent to Portland tonight.

Thanks, Dave.

 

[Mosby]

So, of course, Gaudet and Samuelsson are both sent to Portland tonight.

Thanks, Dave.

Only real surprise on the list is Samuelsson. Even then, his best game was the first and he hasn't matched that since.

The full list:

Bolduc
Dziurzynski
Gaudet
Lane
Martinook
McKenna
Reese
Samuelsson
Shinnimin
Visentin

Released:

McBain
Kassian
Barch

 

[Sciamachy]

So, of course, Gaudet and Samuelsson are both sent to Portland tonight.

Thanks, Dave.

Neither of them looked ready to me, I don't have a problem with this.

Full list of cuts here:

http://coyotes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=732066&navid=DL|ARI|home

 

[Mosby]

Is Perlini still hanging around? Or did I miss his cut? Seems silly to keep him around if he's injured.

 

[Sciamachy]

Is Perlini still hanging around? Or did I miss his cut? Seems silly to keep him around if he's injured.

Still here, had surgery on his hand and will head back to juniors after working with the trainers for a couple weeks.

Guys still around by my count:

Domi
Rieder
Lessio
Szwarz
Domingue
Hodgman
Smaby
Perlini**
???? - Campbell???

Pretty sure I'm forgetting one more.

ETA - I think Campbell is still around as well.

 

[CC96]

Samuelsson looked largely ineffective in this game against good NHLers, and hasn't really impressed since the first game, so I'm not really upset by him being sent down.

 

[British yote]

Is Perlini still hanging around? Or did I miss his cut? Seems silly to keep him around if he's injured.

Said on the website that he had hand surgery today and is expected to be around Arizona for two more weeks before he returns to niagara.

 

[British yote]

Smaby got the most ice time one of the games right?

 

[Sciamachy]

Smaby got the most ice time one of the games right?

Against San Jose he did. I suspect it was in part because that was the first game Tip actually got to watch him play since Smaby had only been in the California games coached by Edwards before that.

 

[mouser]

32 players remaining in camp (including injured Perlini):

Centers(5): Vermette, Hanzal, Gagner, Vitale, Hodgman
Left Wing(8): Boedker, Korpikoski, Klinkhammer, Domi, Chipchura(C/LW), Lessio, McMillan(LW/C), Perlini*
Right Wing(6): Doan, Erat, Moss, Rieder, Crombeen, Szwarz

LHD(7): OEL, Yandle, Schlemko, Gormley, Summers, Campbell, Smaby(PTO)
RHD(3): Michalek, Murphy, Stone

Goalies(3): Smith, Dubnyk, Domingue

 

[Matias Maccete]

Was 21 bolduc or swarz?

 

[Desert Ice 11]

32 players remaining in camp (including injured Perlini):

Centers(5): Vermette, Hanzal, Gagner, Vitale, Hodgman
Left Wing(8): Boedker, Korpikoski, Klinkhammer, Domi, Chipchura(C/LW), Lessio, McMillan(LW/C), Perlini*
Right Wing(6): Doan, Erat, Moss, Rieder, Crombeen, Szwarz

LHD(7): OEL, Yandle, Schlemko, Gormley, Summers, Campbell, Smaby(PTO)
RHD(3): Michalek, Murphy, Stone

Goalies(3): Smith, Dubnyk, Domingue

The ones in red will likely get cut or whatever..that would be 23 players. So we would basically have very close to the same team that missed the playoffs last year.

 

[Sciamachy]

Was 21 bolduc or swarz?

Szwarz

 

[_Del_]

The ones in red will likely get cut or whatever..that would be 23 players. So we would basically have very close to the same team that missed the playoffs last year.

Tipp is comfortable with the incumbents. He knows what they bring. I think the idea of bringing in a young guy he does not know, no matter how talented, drives him batty. And he won't get to know them or trust them, because he does not play them. I think he's also a players' coach, and that he is a loyal to "his" guys (witness bringing back Moss when he was packing his bag for Switzerland, Halpern when he had no place to play, etc). He must be saved from himself.

 

[Desert Ice 11]

Tipp is comfortable with the incumbents. He knows what they bring. I think the idea of bringing in a young guy he does not know, no matter how talented, drives him batty. And he won't get to know them or trust them, because he does not play them. I think he's also a players' coach, and that he is a loyal to "his" guys (witness bringing back Moss when he was packing his bag for Switzerland, Halpern when he had no place to play, etc). He must be saved from himself.

Tip doesn't sign anybody. That's GMDM's doing bringing back those guys. I can understand why and I get it..there is value in bringing them back when he did. Cheap players in-case the youth wasn't ready. I totally get that but now there is the issue of there seems to be youth ready for the jump but there are these guys on the cheap that he signed.

Not a bad problem just not ideal when you are talking about putting youth in the lineup. There is still sometime before the season starts so I am not sure how GMDM will act. Hold these players and if they don't perform waive them and bring up youth? Hold these players until deadline then ship them out? Hold these players the entire season then not bring them back?

It's not easy being a GM and DM has turned junk into something before. Just wonder with the new assistant GM how this will play out.

 

[_Del_]

Tip doesn't sign anybody. That's GMDM's doing bringing back those guys. I can understand why and I get it..

If you don't think Tippett was a factor in either of those decisions, I don't know what to tell you.

I am interested to see how they handle this, too. They play of a couple of these guys may actually force their hand. We're about to find out exactly how cash strapped we are, imo. Can we afford the extra $2M to bury some of these guys in the minors and let the kids play. Or will we try a repeat of last years team and hope for better results?

 

[Desert Ice 11]

If you don't think Tippett was a factor in either of those decisions, I don't know what to tell you.

He may have influence but not final say. Regardless of who talked to him and put in good words and all that, its DM that makes the final call. So any blame is his to own for who was brought back and if they play poorly.

 

[hbk]

I think anyone expecting more than 2 rookie forwards is going to be setting themselves up for disappointment.

How do buyouts work at this point? Thinking Klinkhammer.

 

[TheLegend]

32 players remaining in camp (including injured Perlini):

Centers(5): Vermette, Hanzal, Gagner, Vitale, Hodgman
Left Wing(8): Boedker, Korpikoski, Klinkhammer, Domi, Chipchura(C/LW), Lessio, McMillan(LW/C), Perlini*
Right Wing(6): Doan, Erat, Moss, Rieder, Crombeen, Szwarz

LHD(7): OEL, Yandle, Schlemko, Gormley, Summers, Campbell, Smaby(PTO)
RHD(3): Michalek, Murphy, Stone

Goalies(3): Smith, Dubnyk, Domingue

The ones in red will likely get cut or whatever..that would be 23 players. So we would basically have very close to the same team that missed the playoffs last year.

Tippet's also taking a hard look at Gagner on the wing.

Perlini is still here to get access to the medical staff. I expect him to end up in Portland.

 

[Mosby]

Perlini is too young for Portland.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

How do buyouts work at this point? Thinking Klinkhammer.

If it makes you feel better, keep thinking that.

I don't know where all of you guys are getting the idea that the team thinks Chipchura, Klinkhammer, and Moss are expendable, but you may as well get used to the fact that those guys are going to be on the ice at the River for player intros on opening night.

 

[IPreferPi]

If it makes you feel better, keep thinking that.

I don't know where all of you guys are getting the idea that the team thinks Chipchura, Klinkhammer, and Moss are expendable, but you may as well get used to the fact that those guys are going to be on the ice at the River for player intros on opening night.

Believe me, I've already lowered my expectations:

Doan - Vermette - Boedker
Korpikoski - Hanzal - Erat
Klinkhammer - Gagner - Moss
Chipchura - Vitale - Crombeen