GDT: 2014 IIHF World Championship [OP Updated]

[Taak19]

apparently OV's knee isn't badly damaged, just swelling but no tears. dude is a beast.

I just don't get why he tried to dodge a check. Usually he trucks guys who try to hit him.

 

[R S]

That money could be gathered in other ways. Such as a more prominent tournament in between the Olympics... Maybe a World Cup as has been discussed.

Do something like this:

2014: Olympics
2015: World Championships
2016: World Cup
2017: World Championships
Repeat

Having World Championships and Olympics/World Cup in the same year is redundant.

Having bigger transfer fees would hurt parity in the NHL and be a bad thing for the league (and this hockey is the biggest markets) as the budget teams couldn't afford the bigger transfer fees and the Leafs/Sabres/Flyers/Detroit could.

Good luck getting things like the NHLPA on board with stuff like that. Big time costs and demand on the athletes...plus the extra risk of injury.

 

[henchman21]

Good luck getting things like the NHLPA on board with stuff like that. Big time costs and demand on the athletes...plus the extra risk of injury.

The owners are pushing for a World Cup again. Wouldn't be surprised to see it actually happen... Tretiak thinks it will in 2016.

Then with that schedule it would actually cut out one tournament every 4 years as there would be 1 per year vs 1 per year with an extra thrown in during Olympic years. So less wear and tear... along with the carrot of playing in future Olympics if they agree to play in World Cups (I'm pretty positive that is what the owners will put out there).

Edit: Recent article on the subject

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/11/report-world-cup-of-hockey-returning-in-2016/

 

[Hesher]

As long as the IIHF keeps making money the WCH will be held every year. I think they should skip it in an olympic year.

 

[Freudian]

Seth Jones has 9 points in 7 games.

 

[chet1926]

Seth Jones has 9 points in 7 games.

Still can't play defense worth a crap. He is going to turn into a poor man Karlsson. Capable of 50pts, while playing 2nd pairing capable defense.

 

[R S]

Still can't play defense worth a crap. He is going to turn into a poor man Karlsson. Capable of 50pts, while playing 2nd pairing capable defense.

Disagree.

 

[S E P H]

Still can't play defense worth a crap. He is going to turn into a poor man Karlsson. Capable of 50pts, while playing 2nd pairing capable defense.

Ummmmm seems you haven't seen him play. He has been a force at both ends of the ice easily. Only problem he has defensively is he is prone to puck watching. MacKinnon is flawed as well with the puck rolling off his stick on almost every other play.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Still can't play defense worth a crap. He is going to turn into a poor man Karlsson. Capable of 50pts, while playing 2nd pairing capable defense.

No man.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Ummmmm seems you haven't seen him play. He has been a force at both ends of the ice easily. Only problem he has defensively is he is prone to puck watching. MacKinnon is flawed as well with the puck rolling off his stick on almost every other play.

Yah what the hell is up with that? I saw it alot this season aswell.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Ummmmm seems you haven't seen him play. He has been a force at both ends of the ice easily. Only problem he has defensively is he is prone to puck watching. MacKinnon is flawed as well with the puck rolling off his stick on almost every other play.

Yah what the hell is up with that? I saw it alot this season aswell.

Oates would say there is a probably a problem with the curve of his stick.

 

[Avs_19]

MacKinnon made a great pass to Bieksa on the PP for a goal but it got called back because Huberdeau was in the crease. That's the only highlight of his I saw from today's game.

Gaudreau for the US........wow. Check out the highlights of the goals in that game. Those hands!

 

[Drij]

MacKinnon just sucks on big ice.

 

[Alex Jones]

No to a world cup. Keep the Olympics.

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

MacKinnon is flawed as well with the puck rolling off his stick on almost every other play.

Holy exaggeration. He cut down on that a lot over the course of the season and I expect it to continue to become few and far between.

I figured we'd be done with the MacKinnon/Jones comparisons for a while but I guess not. Still have that almost year gap in their ages in terms of development.

Barely watched any of the WC's. It's boring hockey, IMO, just like the Olympics were. Big ice is not entertaining.

 

[S E P H]

Holy exaggeration.

I figured we'd be done with the MacKinnon/Jones comparisons for a while but I guess not. Still have that almost year gap in their ages in terms of development.

Barely watched any of the WC's. It's boring hockey, IMO, just like the Olympics were. Big ice is not entertaining.

Exaggeration? Not at all.

Year of development? What advantage will this be during both players prime year? None.

I love MacKinnon, but I will also defend Jones from ignorance.

 

[tigervixxxen]

MacKinnon made a great pass to Bieksa on the PP for a goal but it got called back because Huberdeau was in the crease. That's the only highlight of his I saw from today's game.

Gaudreau for the US........wow. Check out the highlights of the goals in that game. Those hands!

MacKinnon is a cycle machine. If they kept track of Corsi I'd be shocked if he wasn't leading the team in it. 7 shots today, forward with the most ice time. Yes, I watched the game.

 

[henchman21]

It is possible to defend Jones without using hyperbole against MacK. Does he have some issues handling the puck at full speed? Yep. Is it a huge issue? No not really and he will improve a lot in that area as he learns to handle the puck better along with simplifying his moves. Also, Jones is showing everything that makes him one of the top defensemen prospects in the game if not the top one.

 

[member 116861]

It is possible to defend Jones without using hyperbole against MacK. Does he have some issues handling the puck at full speed? Yep. Is it a huge issue? No not really and he will improve a lot in that area as he learns to handle the puck better along with simplifying his moves. Also, Jones is showing everything that makes him one of the top defensemen prospects in the game if not the top one.

MacKinnon has been having trouble handling the puck in all situations during this tournament not just at full speed like he was during the regular season.

 

[henchman21]

Big ice is not entertaining.

Totally agree.

 

[Freudian]

MacKinnon has played more hockey this year than he ever had. He probably trained harder than he ever had this past summer. He'd have to be superhuman not to be fatigued.

 

[henchman21]

MacKinnon has been having trouble handling the puck in all situations during this tournament not just at full speed like he was during the regular season.

He tries too hard to make moves and be cute with the puck. He will simplify as he matures and he will get better at handling the puck. Luckily despite his troubles handling the puck during the regular season this year, he was the 2nd most dangerous Avs player this year, and was the most dangerous for a stretch. People are blowing his struggles way out of proportion.

 

[ANewHope]

Seth Jones has 9 points in 7 games.

It's weird I'm still exactly the same on Jones as I've always been. Doesn't want to play physical and use his size and not smart enough to play like a Lindstrom on defense whom I believe he compared his defensive game to at one point.

Very good offensively but don't see him as an EK almost PPG type great offensively. Wouldn't risk the 1st overall pick on him in a draft with a Mackinnon in it. Something I think happened with alot of GM's/scouts as the draft came closer.

I never watched him as much as others tho, but never understood the hype completely. I think 4th overall was a good spot for him to go, esp in his class.

 

[S E P H]

It is possible to defend Jones without using hyperbole against MacK. Does he have some issues handling the puck at full speed? Yep. Is it a huge issue? No not really and he will improve a lot in that area as he learns to handle the puck better along with simplifying his moves. Also, Jones is showing everything that makes him one of the top defensemen prospects in the game if not the top one.

How is it a hyperbole when it has happened all season long, this didn't start in the World Championships at all. It started at Day 1 in the training camp, surprised some of you are just noticing it now. It just means his body isn't exactly in tune with his mental side of the game. This doesn't mean he sucks or anything, just a weakness that will improve with time. What is the true hyperbole, is the overreaction of this.

 

[S E P H]

It's weird I'm still exactly the same on Jones as I've always been. Doesn't want to play physical and use his size and not smart enough to play like a Lindstrom on defense whom I believe he compared his defensive game to at one point.

All of this has been wrong so far in the WC.