Speculation: 2014 - 2015 New York Rangers :: Roster Building Part XVIV: Everything is Happening!

[UAGoalieGuy]

I hate to do what of scenarios but man, I wonder what would have gone down of the Rangers took Tarasenko instead of McI last year.

Do they still move Callahan and those picks for MSL? Do they move him for futures instead? Would they be in a better cap situation with Tarasenko instead of MSL(he is in final year of his ELC)?

 

[TheTakedown]

I hate to do what of scenarios but man, I wonder what would have gone down of the Rangers took Tarasenko instead of McI last year.

Do they still move Callahan and those picks for MSL? Do they move him for futures instead? Would they be in a better cap situation with Tarasenko instead of MSL(he is in final year of his ELC)?

Tarasenko is due for like a 7M contact... We already have 2 of those on this team, with several other $4.5M+ contracts...

So.... I don't think our cap situation would be any better

 

[Algernop Kreider]

Tarasenko is due for like a 7M contact... We already have 2 of those on this team, with several other $4.5M+ contracts...

So.... I don't think our cap situation would be any better

How could that possibly make our cap situation worse? He's an RFA so even if we couldn't fit his cap hit we would be able to trade him for a ridiculous return.

 

[Ola]

I don't understand what this has to do with Girardi.

Sorry for talking out of my beard, I like how Girardi carries himself. The focus he has, the consistency. I have heard Hank talk about this from his own perspective, but I think it roots in what this entire team is about. A lost game or two and life sucks and it don't matter if you live in NY and make millions. If you win its the best in the world. SJ just seem like a team with players that has a good time no matter what. Lost 2 in a row? Let's hit the links and have a few drinks.

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

Girardi is supposed to be the stabilizing d-man, and he hasn't been. It's been easily his worst season, it isn't like he's been bad for a few years, though. So it's silly how some people dislike him so much.

However, I see the exact opposite. I wouldn't expect any real show of emotion from G if the world was ending... not necessarily a bad thing, it just distances you from a guy as a fan.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Sorry for talking out of my beard, I like how Girardi carries himself. The focus he has, the consistency. I have heard Hank talk about this from his own perspective, but I think it roots in what this entire team is about. A lost game or two and life sucks and it don't matter if you live in NY and make millions. If you win its the best in the world. SJ just seem like a team with players that has a good time no matter what. Lost 2 in a row? Let's hit the links and have a few drinks.

So we are comparing the behavior of a few SJ players based off of purposely edited segments on an NHL "reality" show, to the behavior/personality of a Rangers player no one knows personally, but always sound like a "gamer" in interviews now?

Come on, man. This is the stuff that gets me when people complain about the statistics. This is the other side of the coin that especially goes on with Girardi. This kind of thinking cannot be used while saying Corsi is flawed.

 

[bobbop]

Are we at 49 or 50 contracts? (I count 49 but I am not sure)

May be a factor in trying to sign O'Connell.

TY

 

[Doctyl]

Are we at 49 or 50 contracts? (I count 49 but I am not sure)

May be a factor in trying to sign O'Connell.

TY

We're at 49 IIRC, but that doesn't count Buchnevich who they were trying to sign earlier

 

[Tawnos]

We're at 49 IIRC, but that doesn't count Buchnevich who they were trying to sign earlier

More likely than not, Buchnevich won't count towards this year's contract limit.

 

[NickyFotiu]

It would be insane to let Hagelin go. He is a great 3rd line LW. He kills penalties. He scores at even strength. He makes relative peanuts and he is a big part of our speed game. I can not imagine letting Hagelin go. Klein is going no where. He is a huge bargain on his contract. We will have to find some cap money but it will not be from those 2 players.

 

[Doctyl]

It would be insane to let Hagelin go. He is a great 3rd line LW. He kills penalties. He scores at even strength. He makes relative peanuts and he is a big part of our speed game. I can not imagine letting Hagelin go. Klein is going no where. He is a huge bargain on his contract. We will have to find some cap money but it will not be from those 2 players.

No he's stupid, has 0 offense and isn't Gretzky. Get this soft euro bum off our team.

 

[BBKers]

Are we at 49 or 50 contracts? (I count 49 but I am not sure)

May be a factor in trying to sign O'Connell.

TY

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PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2014-2015 (49)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD (23)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit| Status |Team| Drafted |Age 2015
1 | F | Stepan, Derek |$3,075,000| RFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| R2 #51 NYR (2008)| 25
2 | F | Hagelin, Carl| $2,250,000| RFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| R6 #168 NYR (2007)| 27
3 | F | Miller, J.T. (ELC) | $894,167* |RFA 2015 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #15 NYR (2011)| 22
4 | F | Fast(h), Jesper (ELC)|$805,000*| RFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| R6 #157 NYR (2010)| 24
5 | F | St Louis, Marty| $5,625,000| UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| Undrafted| 40
6 | F | Sheppard, James| $1,200,000| UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #9 Minnesota (2006)| 27
7 | D | Hunwick , Matt|$600,000|UFA 2015|New York Rangers/NHL |R7 #224 Boston Bruins (2003)| 30
8 | F | Kreider, Chris | $2,475,000 | RFA 2016|New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #19 NYR (2009) |24
9 | F | Hayes, Kevin (ELC)| $900,000* | RFA 2016|New York Rangers/NHL|R1 #24 Chicago (2010) - signed w/NYR as UFA |23
10 | D | Boyle, Dan | $4,500,000 | UFA 2016| New York Rangers/NHL|Undrafted|39
11 | F | Moore, Dominic | $1,500,000 | UFA 2016| New York Rangers/NHL| R4 #95 NYR (2000)|35
12 | G | Talbot, Cameron| $562,600| UFA 2016¤| New York Rangers/NHL| Undrafted (started w NYR)| 28
13 | G | Skapski, Mackenzie (ELC) |$661,667* |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #170 NYR(2013) |21
14 | D | Yandle, Keith |$2.825,500 |UFA 2017| New York Rangers/NHL | R4 #105 Phoenix Coyotes (2005)| 29
15 | F | Glass, Tanner| $1,450,000 | UFA 2017| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #265 Florida Panthers(2003)|31
16 | D | Kline, Kevin | $2,900,000 | UFA 2018| New York Rangers/NHL | R2 #37 Nashville Predators (2003)|31
17 | F | Nash, Rick (NMC??)| $7,800,000| UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #1 Columbus Blue Jackets (2002)| 31
18 | D | McDonagh, Ryan |$4,700,000| UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #12 Montreal (2007) |26
19 | F | Zuccarello, Mats | $3,500,000 | UFA 2019¤¤| New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |28
20 | D | Girardi, Dan (NMC => NTC)| $5,500,000| UFA 2020| New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 31
21 | F | Brassard, Derick | $5,000,000 | UFA 2020| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)| 28
22 | G | Lundqvist, Henrik IR (NMC)| $8,500,000| UFA 2021| New York Rangers/NHL|R7 #208 NYR (2000)| 33
23 | D | Staal, Marc | $3,975,000| UFA 2021**| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #12 NYR (2005)| 28[/table]

TOTALS
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000
CAP PAYROLL: $72,670,134
BONUSES: $3,358,667
CAP SPACE (23-man roster - 13 FWDs, 7 D, 3 G): $187.258
PRORATED DEADLINE SPACE - $870.750
LTIR replacement - 1,091,000
AVERAGE AGE ~ 28,04 years

* - has additional bonus money in contract
¤ - signed a one year contract for 2015-2016 SEASON for $1.450.000
¤¤ - signed a four year contract starting 2015-2016 SEASON for $4.500.000
** - signed a six year contract for starting 2015-2016 for $5.750.000 avg cap hit
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract

ASSIGNED TO AHL/ECHL/ELSEWHERE (26)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit| Status |Team| Drafted |Age 2015
24| D | McIlrath, Dylan (ELC) |$1,295,000* |RFA 2015 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #10 NYR (2010) | 23
25| F | Kristo, Danny |$826,875 |RFA 2015| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL | R2 #56 Montreal Canadians (2008)| 25
26|F | Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) |$760,000* |RFA 2015 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #57 PHX (2010) |24
27|G| Missiaen, Jason |$715,000 |RFA 2015 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |25
28 |F |Hrivik, Marek (ELC) |$685,000* |RFA 2015 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 24
29 | F | Klingberg, Carl|$600,000| RFA 2015| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL| R2 #34 Atlanta (2009)|24
30| D| Kostka, Mike| $650,000| UFA 2015| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL| Undrafted | 30
31|F| Bourque, Chris|$600,000|UFA 2015| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|R2 #33 Washington Capitals (2003) | 29
32|F| Crabb, Joey |$600,000|UFA 2015| Hartford Wolfpack/AH|R7 #226 NYR (2002) |32
33|F| Mueller, Chris |$600,000|UFA 2015| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|Undrafted | 29
34|D | Allen, Connor (ELC) |$1,775,000* |RFA 2016 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 25
35|D |Zámorský, Petr (ELC) | $925,000 |RFA 2016 |loaned to Örebro/SHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |23
36|D |Bodie, Matt (ELC) |$925.000 |RFA 2016| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |25
37|F |Haggerty, Ryan (ELC) |$925.000 |RFA 2016 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 22
38| F |Nicholls, J. (ELC) | $709,167 |RFA 2016 |Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)| 23
39|F |Chris McCarthy (ELC) |$692,500 |RFA 2016 | Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 24
40|D |Noreau, Samuel (ELC) |$685,000 |RFA 2016 | Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |R5 #136 NYR(2011) |22
41 |F |St. Croix, M. (ELC) | $665,000 |RFA 2016 |Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |R4 #106 NYR (2011) |22
42|D |Hughes, Tommy (ELC) | $608,333 |RFA 2016 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 23
43 |F |Kantor, Michael IR (ELC) | $583,333 |RFA 2016 |Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 23
44| F | Bourque, Ryan |$562,500|RFA 2016 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #80 NYR (2009) |24
45|G|Desjardins, Cédrick IR|$600,000|UFA 2016| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL (injured)|Undrafted |30
46| D | Summers, Chris |$600.000 |UFA 2016|Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #29 Phoenix Coyotes (2006)| 27
47|F| Tarnasky, Nick|$575,000|UFA 2016| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|R7 #287 Tampa Bay Lightening (2003) |31
48| D | Donnay, Troy (ELC) | $716,667* |RFA 2017 |Erie Otters/OHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 21
49|D |Andersson, Calle (ELC) |$661,667* |RFA 2017 |loaned to Lugano/Switzerland |R4 #119 NYR (2012)| 21
(50)|D |Ryan Graves (ELC-S) |$660.000 |RFA 2018-S|Quebec Remparts/QMJHL |R4 #110 NYR(2013) |20[/table]

PLAYERS STILL UNSIGNED BUT RIGHTS RETAINED BY NYR (there are likely a few more here I believe) [table="head;width=4200]Pos |Player |Team |Drafted |Age 2015
F |Fogarty, Steven| Notre Dame Fighting Irish/NCAA |R3 #72 NYR (2011)| 22
F |Nieves, Cristoval| Michigan Wolverines/NCAA| R2 #59 NYR (2012)| 21
D |Skjei, Brady | Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA| R1 #28 NYR (2012)| 21
F |Adam Tambellini| Calgary Hitmen/WHL| R3 #65 NYR (2013)| 21
F |Pavel Buchnevich| Cherepovets/KHL| R3 #75 NYR (2013)| 20
G |Brandon Halverson|Sault Ste. Marie (OHL) |R2 #59 NYR (2014)|19
F |Keegan Iversson|Portland Winterhawks (WHL)| R3 #85 NYR (2014)|19
D |Ryan Mantha| Niagara IceDogs (OHL)| R4 #104 NYR (2014)|19
G |Igor Shesterkin| St. Petersburg SKA (KHL)| R4 #118 NYR (2014)|20
F |Richard Nejezchleb| Tri-City Americans (WHL)| R5 #122 NYR (2014)|21
D |Daniel Walcott| Blainville Boisbriand (QMJHL)| R5 #140 NYR (2014)|21
D |Tyler Nanne| Sioux Falls Stampede/USHL| R5 #142 NYR (2014)|19[/table]

2015 DRAFT PICKS

• 2nd round Tampa Bay Lightening (for Ryan Callahan)
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round NYR
• 6th round NYR

We lost our 2015 1st rounder in the Marty St Louis trade with Tampa Bay.
We then also received a second-round pick from Tampa Bay in the Ryan Callahan trade as he re-signed with Tampa Bay for the 2014–15 NHL season.
We lost our 2nd round pick in the trade for Keith Yandle
We then also lost our 7th round pick in the same trade.
We lost our 2015 5th rounder in the trade with Vancouver that brought us Rafael Diaz

2016 DRAFT PICKS

• 2nd round NYR
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round Arizona
• 5th round NYR
• 6th round NYR
• 7th round NYR

We lost our 1st round pick in the trade for Keith Yandle
We then also gained a 4th round pick from Arizona
We traded our 4th in 2015 to San Jose for James Sheppard

 

[RangerBoy]

A few weeks ago,Dolan was watching the Rangers practice with Sather and Schoenfeld. Gorton was in Boston for the Beanpot that night getting ready to watch O'Connor. The Rangers were not the rumored frontrunner for Hayes. It will be interesting to see if the Rangers can land the BU goalie. Talbot has not been hurt playing behind Lundqvist and learning from Allaire. I suppose Edmonton and Buffalo could offer O'Connor the opportunity to play right away but those teams are hideous. They will ruin him. The money will be the same. I would use Talbot as an example to O'Connor. We helped develop his game and he is ready to be the #1 guy on his team in the near future. Put him on the active roster to use up the first year of the ELC.

 

[Ola]

A few weeks ago,Dolan was watching the Rangers practice with Sather and Schoenfeld. Gorton was in Boston for the Beanpot that night getting ready to watch O'Connor. The Rangers were not the rumored frontrunner for Hayes. It will be interesting to see if the Rangers can land the BU goalie. Talbot has not been hurt playing behind Lundqvist and learning from Allaire. I suppose Edmonton and Buffalo could offer O'Connor the opportunity to play right away but those teams are hideous. They will ruin him. The money will be the same. I would use Talbot as an example to O'Connor. We helped develop his game and he is ready to be the #1 guy on his team in the near future. Put him on the active roster to use up the first year of the ELC.

Agreed, but do we really replace Talbot with O'Connor?

I'd want O'Connor to at least play a full year in the AHL. It's not an easy job to stand in for Hank, you don't get much ice time.

 

[Graves94]

A few weeks ago,Dolan was watching the Rangers practice with Sather and Schoenfeld. Gorton was in Boston for the Beanpot that night getting ready to watch O'Connor. The Rangers were not the rumored frontrunner for Hayes. It will be interesting to see if the Rangers can land the BU goalie. Talbot has not been hurt playing behind Lundqvist and learning from Allaire. I suppose Edmonton and Buffalo could offer O'Connor the opportunity to play right away but those teams are hideous. They will ruin him. The money will be the same. I would use Talbot as an example to O'Connor. We helped develop his game and he is ready to be the #1 guy on his team in the near future. Put him on the active roster to use up the first year of the ELC.

Agree 100% with you on this!

On another note, If Talbot continues to play like this, I don't see why we couldn't get a 1st rounder from the Sabres or Oilers for him. He's proving to be ready for a starter in the NHL and has the numbers to prove it since last year, this is not a flash in the pan.

 

[Ola]

So we are comparing the behavior of a few SJ players based off of purposely edited segments on an NHL "reality" show, to the behavior/personality of a Rangers player no one knows personally, but always sound like a "gamer" in interviews now?

Come on, man. This is the stuff that gets me when people complain about the statistics. This is the other side of the coin that especially goes on with Girardi. This kind of thinking cannot be used while saying Corsi is flawed.

Kinda, but more like what I've seen the last ten years or whatever from Girardi and co and what I've seen from SJ the last while.

I saw a lot of Girardi when he was in HFD too. I don't know him or believe that I do, but I like the attitude he brings to the ice and yes I do think I can evaluate that at least from all I've seen of him over the years. He is very professional and believes a lot in what can be achieved by doing certain things. I think that SJ team has derailed a bit. I don't like their attitude at all to be honest.

 

[Roo Returns]

I expect a few picks back this draft. Some trading down perhaps. If they can get a first for Talbot, make it happen. Can always sign a Montoya or someone else in the offseason and Skapski will also be a year older.

 

[bernmeister]

No he's stupid, has 0 offense and isn't Gretzky. Get this soft euro bum off our team.

I'll defend that "bum".

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PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2014-2015 (49)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD (23)

Agreed, but do we really replace Talbot with O'Connor?

I'd want O'Connor to at least play a full year in the AHL . It's not an easy job to stand in for Hank, you don't get much ice time.

Yes, and I think Skapski has earned his shot after Cam. But after 1 full year with Skapski playing enough to show acceptable value, he can be flipped for picks/assets. Then you can look at O'Connor v. who we got from the last draft.

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On any unrelated note, anybody hear much about recent D acquisition Chris Summers?

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Just a random thought:

Do you think Edmonton would give up the rights to Yakupov for a package deal involving Talbot and Hagelin? For us, it would give us a right winger assuming MSL walks and Buch another Russian so he doesn't feel so alone, as well as help on the cap, as I'm assuming we could resign him for relatively cheap.

For Edmonton, it gives them a solid, much needed goalie in Talbot they could possibly build around and Hagelin, a speedy winger with a lot of experience in winning and can help their team both in short term and long term, is very solid defensively, and speedy.

I remember last year there was some mumbling about a possible trade involving him, not sure if that was real or just some hot air or smoke Would Edmonton trade him? And would we like a guy like him? I mean he's only 20, though he has had some issues over there.


I don't know how much or how little they value him, so this idea might sound totally ridiculous. Just a thought I guess.

 

[Kovalev27]

I would absolutely deal talbot at the draft and Id love to sign Montoya on the cheap to replace him.

I bet we could get a late first for cam

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Just a random thought:

Do you think Edmonton would give up the rights to Yakupov for a package deal involving Talbot and Hagelin? For us, it would give us a right winger assuming MSL walks and Buch another Russian so he doesn't feel so alone, as well as help on the cap, as I'm assuming we could resign him for relatively cheap.

For Edmonton, it gives them a solid, much needed goalie in Talbot they could possibly build around and Hagelin, a speedy winger with a lot of experience in winning and can help their team both in short term and long term, is very solid defensively, and speedy.

I remember last year there was some mumbling about a possible trade involving him, not sure if that was real or just some hot air or smoke Would Edmonton trade him? And would we like a guy like him? I mean he's only 20, though he has had some issues over there.


I don't know how much or how little they value him, so this idea might sound totally ridiculous. Just a thought I guess.

A couple of thoughts here:

1) If we're giving up Talbot AND Hagelin, I would want more than Yakupov. Hell, given his issues over the last two years, I'm not sure I wouldn't want EDM to add to Yakupov for Talbot OR Hagelin.

2) If you trade Hagelin, MSL isn't walking. (Or, looking at it the other way around, if MSL walks you don't have to trade Hagelin.)

3) Is Yakupov a guy that you want influencing Buch?

Not saying it isn't something I wouldn't consider, but it's not as straightforward as it seems.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

A couple of thoughts here:

1) If we're giving up Talbot AND Hagelin, I would want more than Yakupov. Hell, given his issues over the last two years, I'm not sure I wouldn't want EDM to add to Yakupov for Talbot OR Hagelin.

2) If you trade Hagelin, MSL isn't walking. (Or, looking at it the other way around, if MSL walks you don't have to trade Hagelin.)

3) Is Yakupov a guy that you want influencing Buch?

Not saying it isn't something I wouldn't consider, but it's not as straightforward as it seems.

Why not? Not like he has an attitude problem.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Why not? Not like he has an attitude problem.

Wha? I thought that the reports were rampant that he's selfish, uncoachable and basically a headcase?

 

[MysticLeviathan]

A couple of thoughts here:

1) If we're giving up Talbot AND Hagelin, I would want more than Yakupov. Hell, given his issues over the last two years, I'm not sure I wouldn't want EDM to add to Yakupov for Talbot OR Hagelin.

2) If you trade Hagelin, MSL isn't walking. (Or, looking at it the other way around, if MSL walks you don't have to trade Hagelin.)

3) Is Yakupov a guy that you want influencing Buch?

Not saying it isn't something I wouldn't consider, but it's not as straightforward as it seems.

1. I'm not saying just for Yakupov. If Edmonton adds pick or picks into the package, you wouldn't consider something like that?

2. Hagelin is a LW, MSL is a RW. Yakupov could immediately take MSL's spot, and it's not like MSL's defense would've been much better anyway. He could immediately slot into a top 6 role, and I could definitely see some of the more veteran guys pushing defense onto him. Hags is a bottom 6 player for us. While he's a unique player with a unique skillset, I don't think he's entirely necessary. I'd rather slot in one of our farm guys or find a relatively cheap 3rd line LW to compensate. I mean we got Pouliot for $1.3 million, and he ended up being a top 6 guy, I don't think we'd have too much trouble finding a 3rd line LW for less than the $3 million Hags would be looking for.

3. It's not about his influencing Buch, it's that we have zero Russian guys on our team, and having two Russians together might make them seem less lonely per se. And remember, this isn't Edmonton, we aren't a team rebuilding, we are a team in a very high time in our franchise's history in win now mode with very solid leadership all around and a very solid coaching staff + top brass. I definitely think a change of scenery, especially to a winning franchise, could do wonders for Yakupov, and having another Russian might help Buch out quite a bit, as well as Yakupov.



Obviously Yakupov is still a WIP, but I think we can get him for a relatively low cap hit, which is most important imo, which would make our offseason resigns be less difficult. MSL is a lot tougher to replace than someone like Hags imo with regards to their specific roles.

 

[Mikos87]

Pierre McGuire was on radio this morning talking about the Rangers (called them for real) and spoke about Talbot. Said he was speaking with the team last week when he did the Detroit game.

When asked about EDM going after Talbot, McGuire said no way do the Rangers let Talbot go. I agree with him... he's a back up goalie that can easily get the team 20-25 points in the standings in the NHL.

Who the **** is Matt O'Connor?