Speculation: 2014 - 2015 Coyotes Roster

[IPreferPi]

Speaking of Smtih, one interesting wrinkle. He goes up to 6m real dollars next year.

He does, and even if he continues his post-February play he probably isn't worth that. But at this point that contract is what it is. Just hope Smitty makes a speedy and full recovery and that he commits to getting his head on straight right out of the gate next season.

 

[CC96]

He does, and even if he continues his post-February play he probably isn't worth that. But at this point that contract is what it is. Just hope Smitty makes a speedy and full recovery and that he commits to getting his head on straight right out of the gate next season.

He was something like 2nd. Gaa and 3rd. in Sv% post-February, before Derek Morris crippled him. If he plays that, he's certainly worth that kind of money, but I doubt he's going to play like a top-3 goalie over the full season next year.

 

[lanky]

Please call up Lessio.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Was just checking on the players that would have to clear waivers to be sent to the AHL and interesting that Brett Connolly is one of those guys.

It's time to move quickly and bring Connolly into the fold. He's not going to pass Kucherov, Drouin, Nametisnikov or Panik on the team, so Stevie Y is going to need to trade him to not lose the asset.

At this point, he's not worth more than a 2nd rounder

 

[rt]

Please call up Lessio.

agreed.

 

[IPreferPi]

Please call up Lessio.

I'm gonna be pissed if he makes the roster again out of camp, only to see 7 minutes a game for 3 games before being sent back down.

 

[IPreferPi]

Which would you rather do: Korpikoski for Eller or for Jason Zucker?

 

[zerekstar]

My only issue with Kane is that he seems like a problem child.

I agree but at this point, he would be no more of a gamble then most of the guys we already have so I would take a chance on him if a deal can be done. O'reilly would be another good option as he offers a lot of leadership and works...something our guys try to avoid. As a free agent, Callahan maybe but he is overpricing his services.

I'm so disappointed with this season that I probably would make a lot of bad trades right now. Luckily there is time to think it all over for GMDM before he can do too much.

Too be honest, as lethargic as they looked this season, I wished they would have tanked so we could have got a higher draft pick. I do not understand why our defence prospects were not given more of a chance when Morris played as badly as he did and why Lessio never got the call when Moss, Riberio, Korpi, and countless others underperformed so much. It makes me question the management at this point. I know Tippet likes veterans but honestly, how much worse could the young guys do? And all this while trying to make a case for the franchise. Wow did they blow that!

Sorry, just letting off some steam. I can't imagine how Oiler fans feel.

 

[hbk]

If Yandle is a piece we dangle fit is going to be an issue.

Kane has fantastic upside but jets are deep at D.

If you look at teams who are also looking to shake things up who might be looking for a player of Yandle's skill set the list isn't very long. Carolina maybe if the rumors of them being willing to move jordon Staal are true. If Washington moves Green maybe. Toronto might be shopping Kadri. Who else?

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Which would you rather do: Korpikoski for Eller or for Jason Zucker?

I like Eller, plus aren't he and Boedker good friends?

 

[IPreferPi]

If Yandle is a piece we dangle fit is going to be an issue.

Kane has fantastic upside but jets are deep at D.

If you look at teams who are also looking to shake things up who might be looking for a player of Yandle's skill set the list isn't very long. Carolina maybe if the rumors of them being willing to move jordon Staal are true. If Washington moves Green maybe. Toronto might be shopping Kadri. Who else?

I would think the Staals would be a package deal. And I'm not crazy paying Jordan 6M a year for the next decade. Canes also got Faulk and Murphy. Toronto isn't a great fit for Yandle either as they have Reilly + Gardiner, while Kadri is apparently going to turn into Ribeiro.

But I agree, the list of possible destinations for Yandle isn't very long.

 

[IPreferPi]

I like Eller, plus aren't he and Boedker good friends?

I like both. At this point I would lean Zucker as he plays a very similar game to McMillan (plays big and gritty in all 3 zones despite not being very big) except with higher offensive upside. But I'd be happy with taking either if they were available for Korpi.

 

[SweYote]

Mike Ribeiro is the big issue in my opinion. Everything else, like whether or not Chipchura needs to go, are really minor issues in comparison to this.

So what do we have with Ribeiro?

* He can't play in the bottom six.
* He can't play center on the top 6 because Vermette and Hanzal are outplaying him.

Leaving the options of:

* Trade: I would trade Ribeiro for nothing if possible. I don't think it is since no one wants his contract + he has his NMC.
* Use him as a 2nd line winger and PP specialist: Maybe not ideal, but better than having him center a 3rd line.



Other than that I'd like to see some size and power added. Someone like Brian Boyle.

 

[IPreferPi]

Other than that I'd like to see some size and power added. Someone like Brian Boyle.

Boyle may have size in spades, but he's actually *very* soft. Already have too many bigger guys like Moss, Klinkhammer, Chipchura who don't play with an edge.

 

[Mosby]

I don't mind the D core without Yandle. Obviously it won't generate as many points, but we should get that production up front instead with whatever piece Yandle returns.

OEL - Michalek
Gormley - Stone
Summers - Murphy
Schlemko

And preferably we return a Top 4 D in a Yandle package or find one in UFA. That then bumps Murphy to the 7th and Schlemko to Whocaresville.

 

[SweYote]

Boyle may have size in spades, but he's actually *very* soft. Already have too many bigger guys like Moss, Klinkhammer, Chipchura who don't play with an edge.

Soft? That's not my impression, but admittedly I don't watch him too much. I think most of us would agree that Moss and Klinkhammer should be shown the door, and they need to be replaced by players with heart and power, whoever that is. But like I said, that's not the biggest issue.

 

[Mosby]

Mike Ribeiro is the big issue in my opinion. Everything else, like whether or not Chipchura needs to go, are really minor issues in comparison to this.

So what do we have with Ribeiro?

* He can't play in the bottom six.
* He can't play center on the top 6 because Vermette and Hanzal are outplaying him.

Leaving the options of:

* Trade: I would trade Ribeiro for nothing if possible. I don't think it is since no one wants his contract + he has his NMC.
* Use him as a 2nd line winger and PP specialist: Maybe not ideal, but better than having him center a 3rd line.



Other than that I'd like to see some size and power added. Someone like Brian Boyle.

A few weeks ago I mentioned Ribeiro to the Leafs for Bozak. The Leafs were Ribs' No. 2 team in free agency, with Tipp being the deciding factor in PHX. Obviously it's a skill drop on our part, but we get back a way more responsible C. And maybe Ribeiro feeding pucks to Kessel is enticing for Toronto? If we could get the Leafs to throw in Gardiner to make up the skill gap of Rib>Bozak, that gives us an offensive option on D if Yandle is moved.

 

[SweYote]

A few weeks ago I mentioned Ribeiro to the Leafs for Bozak. The Leafs were Ribs' No. 2 team in free agency, with Tipp being the deciding factor in PHX. Obviously it's a skill drop on our part, but we get back a way more responsible C. And maybe Ribeiro feeding pucks to Kessel is enticing for Toronto? If we could get the Leafs to throw in Gardiner to make up the skill gap of Rib>Bozak, that gives us an offensive option on D if Yandle is moved.

I would be all over that. If Bozak and Gardiner is too much for them I'd do Ribeiro for a 7th rounder too.

 

[Mosby]

I would be all over that. If Bozak and Gardiner is too much for them I'd do Ribeiro for a 7th rounder too.

Haha, if only. Toronto's cap situation is a mess. I guess that's what happens when you lock up 20% of your cap in Dion the Pylon and David Clarkson.

My only hesitancy in dealing both Rib and Yandle is how it could impact our PP. But if we're getting skilled players in return, any change to the PP should be negligible.

 

[IPreferPi]

A few weeks ago I mentioned Ribeiro to the Leafs for Bozak. The Leafs were Ribs' No. 2 team in free agency, with Tipp being the deciding factor in PHX. Obviously it's a skill drop on our part, but we get back a way more responsible C. And maybe Ribeiro feeding pucks to Kessel is enticing for Toronto? If we could get the Leafs to throw in Gardiner to make up the skill gap of Rib>Bozak, that gives us an offensive option on D if Yandle is moved.

Bozak has established chemistry with Kessel and JVR, though, and he's one of the Leafs better defensive + face-off centers (along w/ McClement). If they're unwilling to put Kadri (a very similar player to Ribs) w/ Kessel and JVR, it's doubtful that they'd put Ribs up there either.

 

[IPreferPi]

Soft? That's not my impression, but admittedly I don't watch him too much. I think most of us would agree that Moss and Klinkhammer should be shown the door, and they need to be replaced by players with heart and power, whoever that is. But like I said, that's not the biggest issue.

I think heart and edge is a big issue.

Anyways, back to Boyle - even if Bieksa is a tough guy, pretty sad to see a 6'7" guy get constantly rag-dolled by people quite smaller than him.



All that being said, I'm not against going after Boyle as a 3C option if we move Ribs to wing. But gotta keep our expectations in line - the only thing he really has in common with Hanzal is his size and reach.

 

[rt]

I don't mind the D core without Yandle. Obviously it won't generate as many points, but we should get that production up front instead with whatever piece Yandle returns.

OEL - Michalek
Gormley - Stone
Summers - Murphy
Schlemko

And preferably we return a Top 4 D in a Yandle package or find one in UFA. That then bumps Murphy to the 7th and Schlemko to Whocaresville.

Least experienced top seven in the NHL. We'd get run over.

 

[rt]

I personally think Ribeiro is an excellent Ray Whitney replacement. That's a lot more valuable than a 7th.

He's not a good fit for our team as a top line center because our only goalscorer is totally codependent with Marty Hanzal. Also because Hanzal is injured frequently. When Hanzal is out we have Ribs, Vermette, and two 4th line centers.

If we move Ribs to Czech LW we mitigate his below average defensive play and face off ability. We also buy center insurance. When Marty goes down, we can slide Ribs over.

This team needs ribs to play LW and to acquire a very solid 3C. Easier to find a 3C with NO WARTS for 3-4m than a #1W wit no warts for the same price.

We could save enough money to get Yandle a capable partner.

 

[Jakey53]

Mike Ribeiro is the big issue in my opinion. Everything else, like whether or not Chipchura needs to go, are really minor issues in comparison to this.

So what do we have with Ribeiro?

* He can't play in the bottom six.
* He can't play center on the top 6 because Vermette and Hanzal are outplaying him.

Leaving the options of:

* Trade: I would trade Ribeiro for nothing if possible. I don't think it is since no one wants his contract + he has his NMC.
* Use him as a 2nd line winger and PP specialist: Maybe not ideal, but better than having him center a 3rd line.



Other than that I'd like to see some size and power added. Someone like Brian Boyle.

I agree, we do need more size and power.

 

[IPreferPi]

Hmm, a few Jets HFers have expressed interest in Domi + Korpikoski + 2 2nds for Kane. That could be acceptable enough of a price to pull the trigger on.