2014 19th Overall - Anthony DeAngelo

[JFleegs]

Connolly played around 140 games for us, his production this year would make him a top 9 player for us but we moved him where he's playing well on another team. Koekkoek had to overcome injury issues so was never expected to be in the NHL early, he is now and looks like he'll be a good one. Vasilevski has been our backup the last two years. Drouin was playing well and putting up points when he was playing. DeAngelo is less then two years removed from being drafted.

Everyone we drafted has made the NHL except DeAngelo. Connolly and Drouin are top 9 forwards, Koekkoek bottom pair D and Vasilevski a backup, not sure what else you want from those players who are all still 23 or under.

I get it, I understand the developing aspect. Believe me I love Vasy and Coocoo hell even Connolly. It just looks bad when guys drafted right after our guys are names like (Fowler, Forsberg, Fabbri, Jones)

 

[DFC]

I get it, I understand the developing aspect. Believe me I love Vasy and Coocoo hell even Connolly. It just looks bad when guys drafted right after our guys are names like (Fowler, Forsberg, Fabbri, Jones)

We're not the only teams who missed out on those guys.

Give it time. I still think Drouin will outperform Jones, long term, just not with us. But I mean, Palat and Johnson made the NHL at 22/23. It'll be the same for a lot of our prospects, and some of them will find similar success.

For every negative, there are a lot of positives. Look at Marchessault. We gave up, essentially, Dana Tyrell for him. And this kid looks like a legit NHLer, and a good one. He's second to Kucherov in points/60 on the team right now.

I don't think it's about how quickly a guy makes it so much as it's about how good he becomes once he's here.

 

[JFleegs]

very good post DFC, I agree with you.. Admittedly What frustrated me was the idea that Deangelo was so bad at d he would become a winger and pp specialist (I had flashes of MA Bergeron) haha. yea marchy came out of nowhere amazing pick up.

 

[HoseEmDown]

I get it, I understand the developing aspect. Believe me I love Vasy and Coocoo hell even Connolly. It just looks bad when guys drafted right after our guys are names like (Fowler, Forsberg, Fabbri, Jones)

You have to look at the team's drafting those players and why they made the lineup right away. Fowler wouldn't have jumped into our lineup he would've went back to junior, we had Hedman and Ohlund on the left doubt we kept him on the team. Forsberg got traded to a team starved for offense, he would've struggled for top 9 minutes with us. Jones would be good but Drouin was until he left, that one's hard to know. Fabbri has some goals but isn't that impressive at all, again he wouldn't be getting top 9 minutes for us so he wouldn't be producing.

 

[DFC]

Something must have been going on with Forsberg at the draft. We weren't the only team who passed on him.

 

[CarpeNoctem]

I still think DeAngelo will likely turn out to be good, like 2nd pairing but 1st PPQB ideally. He has the potential for even more but ya know how potential goes...

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

haha wow that really set you guys off on a tangent. I think I have a right to be suspect of our round 1 drafting when the only contributor since the 2010 draft has been Namesy. But go on keep acting like anyone with a different opinion than you has to be an idiot.

can kinda throw erne into round one too he was like 3rd pick second round if remember correctly the only real dissapointment so far has been drouin and unfortunately he seems to be making unwise decisions at this point.

I get the frustration hell we might lose stamkos and drouin after marty and vinny etc..

Yet the future is bright seriously bright on almost all our draftees even some more diamonds in the rough the higher draft choices like vermin richard etc.. Is interesting but the serious goal in this game is to get good character people when possible who transition into the nhl and we seem to be doing a pretty good or decent job so far.

Sad part it will be harder and harder on these guys and become like detroit one kid under 22 in like 10 years or whatever lol

thats the manta of being right more than wrong and no one can be infallible with this game look at any sport its hard but we seem to be doing it right

i would be first to complain if it goes sideways honestly im shocked at how well it is going even panik is in the league still so think only the honey badger which we traded for bishop is not in nhl who is staying on course of making it to the bigs lol

also all thoughts are appreciated whether is a discussion agreement or disagreement I just think most of us are pretty happy so many have so far done well if one pops say drouin it happens just got to move on

the guys you named everyone missed not just us its a gamble if was exact science edmonton would be a dynasty for sure

 

[Werewolf]

For every Forsberg we missed out on we have a Palat, Kucherov, Killorn, etc that we absolutely hit on. You can't be taken seriously when you disregard the diamonds we've found. From the moment that Yzerman instituted his people 2011 - 2013 (20 Draft picks) there are 15 players that have made or will make the NHL. Vladdy, Kucherov, Nesterov, Peca, Palat, Koekkoek, Vasilevskiy, Blujus, Richard, Paquette, Gusev, Drouin, Erne, Gudlevskis, Vermin. The ones that I think won't make it: Ikonen, Wilcox, Dotchin, Salminen, and Hart. And 4 of those will be key organizational plugs with contracts at the AHL level. It is an amazing run of drafting in all rounds.

 

[Bolt32]

For every Forsberg we missed out on we have a Palat, Kucherov, Killorn, etc that we absolutely hit on. You can't be taken seriously when you disregard the diamonds we've found. From the moment that Yzerman instituted his people 2011 - 2013 (20 Draft picks) there are 15 players that have made or will make the NHL. Vladdy, Kucherov, Nesterov, Peca, Palat, Koekkoek, Vasilevskiy, Blujus, Richard, Paquette, Gusev, Drouin, Erne, Gudlevskis, Vermin. The ones that I think won't make it: Ikonen, Wilcox, Dotchin, Salminen, and Hart. And 4 of those will be key organizational plugs with contracts at the AHL level. It is an amazing run of drafting in all rounds.

You nailed it. Couldn't agree more.

 

[JFleegs]

For every Forsberg we missed out on we have a Palat, Kucherov, Killorn, etc that we absolutely hit on. You can't be taken seriously when you disregard the diamonds we've found. From the moment that Yzerman instituted his people 2011 - 2013 (20 Draft picks) there are 15 players that have made or will make the NHL. Vladdy, Kucherov, Nesterov, Peca, Palat, Koekkoek, Vasilevskiy, Blujus, Richard, Paquette, Gusev, Drouin, Erne, Gudlevskis, Vermin. The ones that I think won't make it: Ikonen, Wilcox, Dotchin, Salminen, and Hart. And 4 of those will be key organizational plugs with contracts at the AHL level. It is an amazing run of drafting in all rounds.

Oh for sure, I was just talking about 1st rounds, youd think it would be the easier round that your able to find top end talent, but yeah the drouin bitterness is still strong. It is truly amazing that they seem to do it in rounds 2-7 on a regular basis.

I have high hopes for DeAngelo, just like i did with Drouin. Too me they are both boom or bust types of players. Unfortunately Drouin chose his route.

 

[The Gongshow]

DeAngelo will be a stud, just give him time. D take longer to develop then forwards. Look how Hedman turned out, took him a few seasons to get going.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

For every Forsberg we missed out on we have a Palat, Kucherov, Killorn, etc that we absolutely hit on. You can't be taken seriously when you disregard the diamonds we've found. From the moment that Yzerman instituted his people 2011 - 2013 (20 Draft picks) there are 15 players that have made or will make the NHL. Vladdy, Kucherov, Nesterov, Peca, Palat, Koekkoek, Vasilevskiy, Blujus, Richard, Paquette, Gusev, Drouin, Erne, Gudlevskis, Vermin. The ones that I think won't make it: Ikonen, Wilcox, Dotchin, Salminen, and Hart. And 4 of those will be key organizational plugs with contracts at the AHL level. It is an amazing run of drafting in all rounds.

disagree im pretty sure myself ikonen makes a jump next year when he catches up as he has previously in lower development leagues is the progression he has seemed to have he works hard right? not getting the points but playing lower lines and i thought he had a good checking mentality he does have some skill to me and honestly hes 21 i wouldnt give up on him. Just a feeling from the few times ive seen him play

think wilcox will get some time in nhl too as a back up at one point

dotchin is unfortunate really he probably could play a bit in nhl just doubt for us

 

[HoseEmDown]

disagree im pretty sure myself ikonen makes a jump next year when he catches up as he has previously in lower development leagues is the progression he has seemed to have he works hard right? not getting the points but playing lower lines and i thought he had a good checking mentality he does have some skill to me and honestly hes 21 i wouldnt give up on him. Just a feeling from the few times ive seen him play

think wilcox will get some time in nhl too as a back up at one point

dotchin is unfortunate really he probably could play a bit in nhl just doubt for us

You do realize Ikonen has gotten worse this year? You said last year this was the season he makes a jump and he failed. He's not going to be getting a bigger role next year as well bring in Point and hopefully an unsigned prospect. He's a depth AHL winger I highly doubt he sniffs the NHL. Wilcox I can see being called up at some point in his career due to injuries and playing a game or two.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Hey, as long as someone is bringing up the Connolly draft (the old scouting staff notwithstanding), Kuznetsov was taken at 26

 

[Werewolf]

Ikonen played in the ECHL along with Hart and Darcy. Did not make the Crunch coming out of camp. He has fallen of by quite a margin...not sure why. He'll be a solid AHL player - but doubt he gets the full time gig in the NHL. Still a long way to go ... but he doesn't have the size/grit that Paquette and Richard have. And doesn't score at nearly anywhere near their pace. While I'd call both Paquette and Richard solid bottom sixers ... Ikonen is a bit behind the curve. He has some skill ... he works hard. He is sort of an enigma right now 'cause he is still very young. Long hill to climb for him though.

 

[More 2004]

I get it, I understand the developing aspect. Believe me I love Vasy and Coocoo hell even Connolly. It just looks bad when guys drafted right after our guys are names like (Fowler, Forsberg, Fabbri, Jones)

Look at Palat and Kucherov.. think the teams above us aren't kicking themselves? It happens.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

You do realize Ikonen has gotten worse this year? You said last year this was the season he makes a jump and he failed. He's not going to be getting a bigger role next year as well bring in Point and hopefully an unsigned prospect. He's a depth AHL winger I highly doubt he sniffs the NHL. Wilcox I can see being called up at some point in his career due to injuries and playing a game or two.

all i can go by is the little i see of him is just a feeling ive been wrong before i like henri we can bring him up someday and call him king we will have a king and a bishop