Like I said earlier, Moen's experience is keeping him afloat and even though he's declined considerable, he's still reliable enough in his own end when the team needs him. I still don't get why he was placed along side Galchenyuk and Gallagher, he had zero to offer there and it's like it's the regular season with points on the line...this only made him look worse. Honestly, I think had he played with Malholtra and Prust/Weise, he would have looked a little better as he would have been in his element.
With the amount of depth the Habs have though, you're right, his utility to the club is unknown. That being said, if a plethora of injuries ever happen, we'd be happy to see Moen step right in. However, the team can only carry so many players. The Moen situation is a tough one imo, not as black and white as we are making it seem. I think he still has some miles left in him and come PO time, you want that type of depth.
HiggsBozon: Jeez man, I love your posts, but you're definitely exagerating on Parenteau. The guy has an average of 62 points every 82 games in his last 3 seasons. He's definitely better offensively than both Galchenyuk and Gallagher at this point, at the time we're speaking. And he's definitely better than Bourque also, playoffs or not.
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This guy was traded for Daniel freakin Brière. He is now known as the #2 best winger of the team? It really never ends....Again, when DD got Gallagher, people were bashing as, once again, DD was getting the 2 best wingers of the team. And then when he got Vanek, DD was AGAIN getting the 2 beset wingers of the team. And now...he's also getting the 2 best wingers of the team?
Okay, so the gap isn't big....but somehow, everybody expects Galchenyuk to be better and so would Gallagher. Of course...if Bourque goes back, as scheduled, to his own regular season self, Parenteau is a better winger....but what if he doesn't? I'd take a Bourque Playoffs player than Parenteau. Yet, again, it doesn't make Parenteau a slouch....it makes those 4 wingers good ones....but Parenteau, at this point, is NOT the 2nd best winger of this team.
Playoffs Bourque is a 40 goals power forward with a mean streak and who scores clutch goals. So yeah, definitely, I take him in his good moments before the regular Parenteau. That being said;
Galchenyuk has never sustained a 50 points pace in his career, is still 20 years old, and is subject to HUGE scoring slumps.
Gallagher is a 40 points forward. Do we actually think he's anything more than that? I don't. I think what you see is what you get with him; an undersized workhorse who will work his way to the net to score goals, but who has his limitations and who ultimately isn't the most talented playmaker. He can even lack finish from time to time.
Pacioretty is our best winger, it's painfully obvious.
Bourque is very often a non-factor, but in the playoffs, he's money.
All in all, Parenteau is a gifted playmaker, with great ice vision and very good hands, who scored 20 in 80, 18 in 81, and 18 in 48 in the past. That last season would've been enough for him to be our best goal scorer IIRC.
The fact we got him for Briere is not an argument. It was a fit issue. It's the same argument as Michel Bergeron, who used to say there was probably an issue with Marian Hossa because he was at his 4th team in 3 years back in 2009-2010. In the end, Colorado has O'Reilly, Iginla, Tanguay and Landeskog as top-6 wingers. Of course, Parenteau would have to be used on the bottom-6 in the big, tough western conference. He wasn't a fit there anymore. Plus, Colorado likely wanted to free some cap space in year 2 of the Iginla deal, already spending big money on the big winner.
In the end, I think it's fair to assess that, based on his talent, and based on what he's done in the past few years, coupled with the fact he apparently showed up in the best shape of his career, Parenteau is our 2nd best winger.
Of course, eventual progression from Galchenyuk can change this pretty quickly. But to say on an offensively challenged team, that Parenteau might as well play on the bottom-6 of our team, yeah... That's a huge stretch buddy.
They wouldn't have added an extra pick to give away the significantly better player if there weren't injury or attitude issues with Parenteau.
They wouldn't have added an extra pick to give away the significantly better player if there weren't injury or attitude issues with Parenteau.
The fact we got him for Briere is not an argument. It was a fit issue. It's the same argument as Michel Bergeron, who used to say there was probably an issue with Marian Hossa because he was at his 4th team in 3 years back in 2009-2010. In the end, Colorado has O'Reilly, Iginla, Tanguay and Landeskog as top-6 wingers. Of course, Parenteau would have to be used on the bottom-6 in the big, tough western conference. He wasn't a fit there anymore. Plus, Colorado likely wanted to free some cap space in year 2 of the Iginla deal, already spending big money on the big winner.
In the end, I think it's fair to assess that, based on his talent, and based on what he's done in the past few years, coupled with the fact he apparently showed up in the best shape of his career, Parenteau is our 2nd best winger.
Of course, eventual progression from Galchenyuk can change this pretty quickly. But to say on an offensively challenged team, that Parenteau might as well play on the bottom-6 of our team, yeah... That's a huge stretch buddy.
They wouldn't have added an extra pick to give away the significantly better player if there weren't injury or attitude issues with Parenteau.
Just try bournival with galchenyuk and gallagher already...
I wouldn't mind them even trying DLR or McCarron.
I really can't wait for a young D to actually show he's ahead of the others though. Tinordi is not involved enough physically, I'd like to see Beaulieu skate more, and Pateryn tries to show what he's good at and showed how heavy and accurate his shot can be, but you can see he's playing a more risky game in scrimmages, and it already cost him.
Tinordi had the biggest collision in either of the scrimmages yesterday
I'm really not sure what you are basing your assessment on.
More to the point why are you trying to take much of anything from a fan appreciation show...