Salary Cap: 2014-15 Roster-building Thread IV | All UFA/trade talk, speculation here
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Mr Jiggyfly
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You made me click on a Rossi article MP. C'mon man...
"As long as I'm the general manager, Marc-Andre Fleury will be our goalie.”
I've been warning people and they don't want to hear it.
mpp9
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I don't hate Fleury so it doesn't really bother me. But I also don't have to buy into Fleury being elite and this being anything more than a guy who's best friends with the best player in hockey and the Flower blooming in the burgh n'at.
66-30-33
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If only!
Maybe in the offseason. Ladd this season, Semin next if we got the room.
Mr Jiggyfly
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I don't care either way. It's too exhausting to hate a guy that isn't going anywhere. So I figure I might as well pull for him.
What a disheartening article. I can see GMJR being artful to not torpedo MAF's trade value, but not Sid.
Someone was saying he was somewhere between 12 and 20. I think he's lower. I sorted the 30 goalies with the most minutes played over the last 3 and 5 year periods by even strength save percentage and he ranks 22nd and 25th respectively.
His playoff save percentages are: 0.880, 0.933, 0.908, 0.891, 0.899, 0.834, 0.883, 0.915.
Oh well, let's get a top six wing for Geno and beat teams 6-5.
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Is there a particular reason why you guys like Semin so much?
-Big caphit
-Doesn't like Crosby, whines a lot, has a poor personality
-Known playoff choker
-Probably the best shot in the league and very good defensively, yet prone to floating and giving up on plays if he doesn't feel like it.
-Doesn't work hard enough
I'm not hating on the guy but the amount of assets it would take to get him and his contract just isn't worth it. He's not a guy I would rely on in the playoffs and especially not under pressure.
-Big caphit
-Doesn't like Crosby, whines a lot, has a poor personality
-Known playoff choker
-Probably the best shot in the league and very good defensively, yet prone to floating and giving up on plays if he doesn't feel like it.
-Doesn't work hard enough
I'm not hating on the guy but the amount of assets it would take to get him and his contract just isn't worth it. He's not a guy I would rely on in the playoffs and especially not under pressure.
Will Hunting
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Yeah, and added to this, he still hasn´t scored since his wrist surgery. He has some great tools but I feel like we would risk waay too much by acquiring him and his contract. Give me some hard-workers and character guys. Too bad we can´t clone Hornqvist.
Ladd is a great option if he were available. Too bad he probably wouldn't be available.
Will Hunting
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Definitely. He´s exactly a type of player we would love here. Some heart/skill combination. I would even overpay a bit for him. Not for Semin, though.
Gurglesons
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Ladd is exactly the type of player that would seem like he would be available from the Jets. Only this year and next on his contract, at the age where he will be in the twilight of his career once the kids in Winnipeg are good enough to contend.
You said we'd be better off without Ehrhoff and to have his 4m in cap space. Go back and read what you wrote and what you responded to.
TSN says July 1st, NHL says July 2nd in one article and the 3rd in his bio.
Except there wasn't any wingers in that price range! It wasn't a matter of us getting someone like Williams or Vanek or Ehrhoff. It was JJ or Kulemin or Ehrhoff. And in that situation the Ehrhoff signing was a better signing - hands down. Does that still leave us with a hole up front? Absolutely. But JJ/Kulie while decent fits, were very much overpaid. At least now we have the defensive depth to really move someone (aka Martin/Scuds) and not miss a beat.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see him signed to a 2-4 yr deal around the same money as now. Not because he's all that great (he's average), but because there's very few options next summer. We saw the issues Philly has had over the last 10+ years looking for a goalie. I'd rather have MAF than go through that crap. Best case we also find someone else, and then trade MAF (Edmonton?
)It is still a little bit shocking to me that any of us have to defend the Erhoff signing to hockey fans as well informed as HFBoards posters. The contract is such a steal that, irregardless of team depth, every GM in the NHL would line up to sign it. I get that we are short top 6 forwards, I get that we have some of the best depth on d in the league. But Erhoff's deal is a tremendous bargain and any GM worth a damn would sign him at that price and figure out the rest later. Which, for the less patient of us, is something to consider, i.e. we aren't done making moves to round out the roster.
Of course you do.
As for a winger.
Martin and a 5th for Killorn and a 3rd.
Then I'd be phoning Buffalo about Stafford. Everyone and their dog will be after Stewart - who despite his flaws, is still a very attractive player. I doubt many people would be asking about Stafford at this point in time, and with two poor seasons under his belt, the price to acquire him should be fairly reasonable. Likely something around a 2nd or a 3rd and a prospect. I really think he could be an under the radar pickup for us that could do well. Kind of like MacArthur would have been. Not a great name/player.. but someone who's not a big name guy who could help.
Spend another pick/prospect at the deadline on a 3rd pairing vet as insurance against our youth.
Kunitz - Crosby - Hornqvist
Killorn - Malkin - Stafford
Dupuis - Sutter - Bennett
Comeau - Goc - Downie
Spalling
Ehrhoff - Letang
Maatta - Despres
XXX - Bortuzzo
Scuderi
X = any one of Dumoulin, Harrington, Pouliot, etc.
Would give us a solid top 6 with BB, Sutter and Dupuis anchoring the 3rd line, which should in theory be able to play a more offensive role. Not sure who'd I'd sit out of Downie, Spaling or Comeau... but if we are healthy and acquire 2 forwards, someone needs to sit. Or trade one of Spaling/Comeau as part of the Stafford deal. IDK.
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All I know is if Dupes is in the top 6 come playoff time I can be assured of two things, me stabbing my eyes out with a spoon, and us NOT winning a cup.
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I'm not mad or happy about it, I'm...ok with it as long as the team has a damn good back-up and well, they still look for a better goaltending coach, because Bales isn't it.
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There really wasn't anything good forwards wise in the FA pool this past summer, I mean did the Pens want to sign Cammalleri? He's one dimensional, there really wasn't a lot to go after.
Changes are going to come, some good ones have already been made, I don't mind waiting it out until the deadline to see how Rutherford addresses issues in his 1st year, it's also a new coach and a new system, people need to be patient. There's a lot of things in play here that need time and yeah, Sid is 27 and Geno is blah blah...the situation is what it is.
Well, the Jets are so desperate for offense that they, much to Byfuglien's dismay, moved Byfuglien to forward because they NEED offense, bad. Ladd is going to be one of those guys where you'd have to take an extra step beyond "overpayment" just to make the GM think about it. That's not just a heart and soul player, that's also their captain and one of their offensive threats on a team that is insanely weak there and probably are hanging on to Kane longer than they should because they're afraid they might be giving up on a gold mine and aren't sure the returns are worth it.
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Fleury is the soul of the Pens?? WTF
Guess we won't be seeing any cups for the rest of Sid and Geno's tenure.
A very STUPID choice and a waste of two of this generations greatest players prime yrs.
But hey! Sid and his buddy will always be together...a ****ing love story for Hollywood.
Of course Rutherford supports Fleury. His play is as predictable as a meth head on the jones. We all know not much is needed to completely destroy Fleury's confidence and I suppose JR still wants to have a successful play-offs campaign. If he really stood behind his words he would have already resigned Fleury, the simple fact that he hasn't is proof enough, in my opinion, that Fleury's future is decided by his play-offs performance.
That's like the antithesis of what Fleury really is, especially in the playoffs. Sid' just being a good teammate.
TheGoldenJet
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The Jets fans on the trade forum seem open to two deals for Ladd, one being Pouliot+2nd, the other being Harrington+1st+Sutter(though some want Bennett over Sutter) for Ladd+3rd. We would be a Cup favourite with a top 6 of:
Kunitz-Crosby-Hornqvist
Ladd-Malkin-Bennett
I think Ladd could become available sooner rather than later this year, if the Jets continue their current pace.
Kunitz-Crosby-Hornqvist
Ladd-Malkin-Bennett
I think Ladd could become available sooner rather than later this year, if the Jets continue their current pace.
radapex
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I'd consider Pouliot+2nd for Ladd. Absolutely no way I do Harrington+1st, let alone Harrington+1st+<roster player>.
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