Salary Cap: 2014-15 Roster-building Thread IV | All UFA/trade talk, speculation here

[Riptide]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries, and are taken directly from www.capgeek.com.

2014-2015 salary ceiling: ....69,000,000
Projected cap spending: ......69,719,167
LTIR exception: .......................894,167
Projected cap space: ...............175,000



PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

27​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

26​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

27​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

34​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

35​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

Brandon Sutter|

C​

|

25​

|

3,300,000​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Spaling|

LW​

|

25​

|

2,200,000​

|

2,200,000​

|

UFA​

Marcel Goc|

C​

|

30​

|

1,200,000​

|

UFA​

Steve Downie|

RW​

|

27​

|

1,000,000​

|

UFA​

Blake Comeau|

LW​

|

28​

|

700,000​

|

UFA​

Craig Adams|

RW​

|

37​

|

700,000​

|

UFA​

Zach Sill|

C​

|

26​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

27​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Paul Martin|

D​

|

33​

|

5,000,000​

|

UFA​

Christian Ehrhoff|

D​

|

32​

|

4,000,000​

|

UFA​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

35​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

Simon Despres|

D​

|

22​

|

900,000​

|

900,000​

|

RFA​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

19​

|

894,167​

|

894,167​

|

RFA​

Robert Bortuzzo|

D​

|

25​

|

600,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie...................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

29​

|

5,000,000​

|

UFA​

Thomas Greiss|

G​

|

28​

|

1,000,000​

|

UFA​

Injured reserve.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

.2014-15​

|

.2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Beau Bennett|

LW​

|

22​

|

900,000​

|

RFA​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Jayson Megna|

RW​

|

24​

|

874,125​

|

RFA​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

21​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

22​

|

655,000​

|

655,000​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

22​

|

652,500​

|

652,500​

|

RFA​

Adam Payerl|

RW​

|

23​

|

626,667​

|

RFA​

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

21​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

Matia Marcantuoni|

C​

|

20​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

21​

|

601,667​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

22​

|

598,333​

|

RFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

20​

|

598,333​

|

598,333​

|

598,333​

|

RFA​

Andrew Ebbett|

C​

|

31​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Bobby Farnham|

LW​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

Nick Drazenovic|

C​

|

27​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond|

RW​

|

29​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Defense..............................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

20​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

22​

|

831,667​

|

RFA​

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

21​

|

650,833​

|

650,833​

|

RFA​

Nick D'Agostino|

D​

|

23​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Scott Harrington|

D​

|

21​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

22​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Philip Samuelsson|

D​

|

22​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

Taylor Chorney|

D​

|

27​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Goalie................................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

20​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

27​

|

600,000​

|

600,000​

|

UFA​

WHEELING NAILERS

Goalie...........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Eric Hartzell|

G​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Kasperi Kapanen|

RW​

|

18​

|

KalPa (Liiga)​

|

3 years/925,000 per​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

20​

|

SkellefteÃ¥ (SHL)​

|

3 years/708,333 per​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

19​

|

Edmonton (WHL)​

|

3 years/650,833 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

18​

|Omaha (USHL)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

18​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Teddy Blueger|

F​

|

19​

|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

19​

|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|

F​

|

19​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

20​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

19​

|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|

F​

|

18​

|Owen Sound (OHL)

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

21​

|Boston University (HEA)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

24​

|Magnitogorsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

19​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

20​

|Union (ECAC)

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[Riptide]

Last real post from the old thread (several came after, but this is the one that drove the discussion).

If you were the Pens GM, and the Oilers called you offering Yakupov for Sutter, Despres and a 2nd, would you do it? I'm curious to hear what people say. We get a young guy with huge potential, and he would be money along Geno. I'm split, Yakupov would thrive here along Malkin and under Johnston without a doubt, and that deal could end up looking amazing if Yakupov reaches his ceiling of a legit top line sniper. However, that's a lot to give up for a young player who has (for the most part) struggled in his early career. We could probably get a more established and better player for that package.

 

[66-30-33]

Give me Eberle!!! Clutch goal scorer.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I don't trust Yak nearly enough to move Sutter and Despres for him. I sure as hell wouldn't add a 2nd on top of that. I'd much rather Eberle for a similar price or Perron for less.

 

[iFishyHD]

Thinking about it from EDM's POV, I don't think they do it. They just signed Nikitin and Fayne, and have some young guns of their own coming (Nurse+another), and might have no need for Despres. Maybe a guy less NHL ready with upside, but I don't really know who other than Pouliot that is. It is also rumored that Petry could be on the move.

 

[Sideline]

Give me Eberle!!! Clutch goal scorer.

I would think Sutter+Dumoulin gets it done. Both guys are better/farther along then when they were dealt for Staal and I think most teams need a guy like J. Staal more than they need an Eberle.

Thinking about it from EDM's POV, I don't think they do it. They just signed Nikitin and Fayne, and have some young guns of their own coming (Nurse+another), and might have no need for Despres. Maybe a guy less NHL ready with upside, but I don't really know who other than Pouliot that is. It is also rumored that Petry could be on the move.

The Oils D is worse than six dumpster fires. Scuderi would be an upgrade on half of them...

 

[Shady Machine]

Thinking about it from EDM's POV, I don't think they do it. They just signed Nikitin and Fayne, and have some young guns of their own coming (Nurse+another), and might have no need for Despres. Maybe a guy less NHL ready with upside, but I don't really know who other than Pouliot that is. It is also rumored that Petry could be on the move.

They may not do it, but I think Despres is better, both in terms of readiness and upside than all of their D prospects minus Nurse (just upside on Despres but clearly not readiness). The problem is Edmonton's big D signings were overpaying for decent defensemen.

Regardless, I wouldn't move that much for Yak.

 

[66-30-33]

I would think Sutter+Dumoulin gets it done. Both guys are better/farther along then when they were dealt for Staal and I think most teams need a guy like J. Staal more than they need an Eberle.

Nope, Eberle will cost us a ton. Sutter and Dumo don't have the best trade value. Love your avatar though, haha.

 

[Shady Machine]

I would think Sutter+Dumoulin gets it done. Both guys are better/farther along then when they were dealt for Staal and I think most teams need a guy like J. Staal more than they need an Eberle.

Maybe Yak, given his inconsistency and perceived or real lack of effort, but I really doubt Eberle. If he's moved, I think it's for a power forward type of guy that can compliment their skill.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I would think Sutter+Dumoulin gets it done. Both guys are better/farther along then when they were dealt for Staal and I think most teams need a guy like J. Staal more than they need an Eberle.

No way. That's highway robbery. You'd need to finish the Staal level deal and add in a guy like Pouliot.

Maybe Yak, given his inconsistency and perceived or real lack of effort, but I really doubt Eberle. If he's moved, I think it's for a power forward type of guy that can compliment their skill.

Or a legit top pairing d-man.

 

[Shady Machine]

No way. That's highway robbery. You'd need to finish the Staal level deal and add in a guy like Pouliot.



Or a legit top pairing d-man.

Yeah I suppose that's more likely.

 

[iFishyHD]

They may not do it, but I think Despres is better, both in terms of readiness and upside than all of their D prospects minus Nurse (just upside on Despres but clearly not readiness). The problem is Edmonton's big D signings were overpaying for decent defensemen.

I agree with everything for sure, but I don't think adding defenseman that aren't elite and under contract (or willing to stay) for a while is a need for them.

 

[66-30-33]

No way. That's highway robbery. You'd need to finish the Staal level deal and add in a guy like Pouliot.



Or a legit top pairing d-man.

1st, Pouliot, BB, Sutter will likely be around the value. Maybe a bit more? perhaps Spaling for their 3C.

 

[Ogrezilla]

1st, Pouliot, BB, Sutter will likely be around the value. Maybe a bit more? perhaps Spaling for their 3C.

That's a bit much now I think. I mean, its what the fans would want. But they would never get that much. Take out Bennett.

 

[Sideline]

Nope, Eberle will cost us a ton. Sutter and Dumo don't have the best trade value. Love your avatar though, haha.

Thanks on the Avatar.

Maybe Yak, given his inconsistency and perceived or real lack of effort, but I really doubt Eberle. If he's moved, I think it's for a power forward type of guy that can compliment their skill.

What the heck has Yak done to be worth Sutter, let alone Sutter+?

No way. That's highway robbery. You'd need to finish the Staal level deal and add in a guy like Pouliot.

I like Eberle, but I just don't see the value proposition. He's a less valuable player than Staal or Kesler. He's small scoring winger that plays a mediocre two-way game.

Despite the Penguins making it look otherwise for the last 5 years scoring wingers are easier to come by than top pairing D or top 2 line centers.

 

[66-30-33]

That's a bit much now I think. I mean, its what the fans would want. But they would never get that much. Take out Bennett.

I think it's around fair value, guy is still young and scores huge goals at huge times. BB is almost worthless but they will ask for him based on potential, 1st, Sutter for their 2C, Spaling for 3C, Pouliot for next season.

 

[penguins2946*]

1st, Pouliot, BB, Sutter will likely be around the value. Maybe a bit more? perhaps Spaling for their 3C.

If we're talking about Eberle, that's way too much. I would think Sutter, Pouliot and a 1st is fair for Eberle, maybe a little on the high side for Pittsburgh.

I think it's around fair value, guy is still young and scores huge goals at huge times. BB is almost worthless but they will ask for him based on potential, 1st, Sutter for their 2C, Spaling for 3C, Pouliot for next season.

Bennett isn't worthless, and adding Spaling makes it even worse.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I think it's around fair value, guy is still young and scores huge goals at huge times. BB is almost worthless but they will ask for him based on potential, 1st, Sutter for their 2C, Spaling for 3C, Pouliot for next season.

That's awful value. They may think Bennett is just a throw in, but we damn sure don't. Then with both Sutter and Spaling, we simply can't make this trade. We need 4 centers ourselves.

That's way too high. We aren't looking for Hall or RNH here. Eberle shouldn't get back much more than Neal.

 

[Michael8771*]

That's awful value. They may think Bennett is just a throw in, but we damn sure don't.

I'm not the biggest BB fan but he's far more valuable IMO than a throw in. I feel trading him at this point would really be selling low on him. At this point we should keep him obviously and HOPE he can get healthy and stay healthy.

 

[66-30-33]

Maybe i'm just more high on Eberle then you guys. Would love to have that guy next to Crosby (although he would be Malkins guy). I think Crosby and Eberle would be a better duo then Benn and Seguin.

 

[billybudd]

Just looking at a guy and saying "he's an offensive-minded" player, irrespective to what he's good at or where that offense comes from is why the Oilers can't draft or sign their way out of the basement. It's why they wasted money on Purcell, an "offensive-minded" player who does precisely nothing for them.

Yakupov is a big time net negative if he is not in the right circle on power play 1. If Crosby isn't there, Malkin will be. If Malkin's not, Crosby will be. Yakupov will never see time in the only place he helps you on our club.

You can't just take it as a given that a guy who's good at one thing will be able to just start doing something else (doubly so for a low-IQ player like Yakupov). This is what got the Leafs in trouble with Clarkson. Signed a guy that scores only from the bottom of the left circle then play him somewhere else.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Maybe i'm just more high on Eberle then you guys. Would love to have that guy next to Crosby (although he would be Malkins guy). I think Crosby and Eberle would be a better duo then Benn and Seguin.

I think Crosby and Hornqvist are a better duo than Benn and Seguin. Crosby is really freaking good.

 

[Michael8771*]

I think Crosby and Hornqvist are a better duo than Benn and Seguin. Crosby is really freaking good.

I think Geno and Sid are the best duo in the world, crazy theory I know. And yes I know you meant line mates, just love our center depth. Well, if Geno gets to play there again.

 

[Riptide]

What the heck has Yak done to be worth Sutter, let alone Sutter+?

I like Eberle, but I just don't see the value proposition. He's a less valuable player than Staal or Kesler. He's small scoring winger that plays a mediocre two-way game.

Despite the Penguins making it look otherwise for the last 5 years scoring wingers are easier to come by than top pairing D or top 2 line centers.

With Yak, you're still paying for that 35g/70pt potential. As for Eberle, his value (in a bubble) might be similar to Staals or Keslers, but his extension is already in place and he hasn't asked for a trade. Thus Edmonton doesn't have to trade him. He's worth a LOT more than Sutter, Dumoulin. You'd likely have to add a 1st to get Edmonton to even start thinking about it - and that's if they like Dumoulin and Sutter.

Yes they are - but there's a difference between a young creative top line winger who's locked up long term - which is what Eberle is, and a top 6 center (both Staal and Kesler are more of #2 than #1Cs) who've either asked for a trade or turned down a contract extension and plan to hit the market.

 

[Riptide]

Just looking at a guy and saying "he's an offensive-minded" player, irrespective to what he's good at or where that offense comes from is why the Oilers can't draft or sign their way out of the basement. It's why they wasted money on Purcell, an "offensive-minded" player who does precisely nothing for them.

Yakupov is a big time net negative if he is not in the right circle on power play 1. If Crosby isn't there, Malkin will be. If Malkin's not, Crosby will be. Yakupov will never see time in the only place he helps you on our club.

You can't just take it as a given that a guy who's good at one thing will be able to just start doing something else (doubly so for a low-IQ player like Yakupov). This is what got the Leafs in trouble with Clarkson. Signed a guy that scores only from the bottom of the left circle then play him somewhere else.

Really? I wasn't aware that Yakupov could only produce on the PP. Last time I checked, most of the game is actually played at even strength.