Salary Cap: 2014-15 Roster Building Part IX | Free Agency + Trade Talk

[mr sidney crosby]

I wouldn't deal Neal for Sharp 1 for 1. Not a chance.

Yeah i wouldn't either, i wonder what Chicago would add.

 

[Riptide]

Kane for Neal doesn't make any sense for the Pens. No cap advantage and is Kane a 40 goal scorer. What would make sense is trading Neal to Anaheim for 2 young Fs like Palmeire, Etam or Smith-Pelly and the #10 pick. You save on the cap and will get back 3 young forwards.

The only real trading chips the Pens have in order to get a good return are Letang and Neal. So do you trade both, one or none. That's JRs dilemma thanks to Mr. Shero's mess.

He makes a ton of sense. Kane is a winger who can create his own offense, and plays a grittier game. He's someone that when not scoring, he still contributes to the team. The 10-15 goals that he doesn't score in the reg season (compared to Neal) wouldn't make a difference, and his overall play in the post season would make a difference.

I'm not saying I'd move them 1-1, as I think they could get him (or someone else pretty good) for Sutter+Maatta.

 

[pistolpete11]

He makes a ton of sense. Kane is a winger who can create his own offense, and plays a grittier game. He's someone that when not scoring, he still contributes to the team. The 10-15 goals that he doesn't score in the reg season (compared to Neal) wouldn't make a difference, and his overall play in the post season would make a difference.

I'm not saying I'd move them 1-1, as I think they could get him (or someone else pretty good) for Sutter+Maatta.

You can't just compare stats. Neal has been playing with Malkin (and Crosby on the PP) for the last 4 years. Kane has been playing with...not-Malkin.

Kane is the type of guy this team needs.

 

[iFishyHD]

Neal for Sharp/Kane
Sutter+Pouliot+1st or Sutter+Maatta for Kesler/Sharp/Kane

Kunitz-Crosby-Sharp
Kane-Malkin-Kulemin

easily best top 6 in the league.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Neal for Sharp/Kane
Sutter+Pouliot+1st or Sutter+Maatta for Kesler/Sharp/Kane

Kunitz-Crosby-Sharp
Kane-Malkin-Kulemin

easily best top 6 in the league.

Pouliot ain't going anywhere now with Johnston on board

 

[Ogrezilla]

Neal for Sharp/Kane
Sutter+Pouliot+1st or Sutter+Maatta for Kesler/Sharp/Kane

Kunitz-Crosby-Sharp
Kane-Malkin-Kulemin

easily best top 6 in the league.

that's true if you keep Neal instead of trading him for Sharp too.

 

[PensPlz]

Sharp is an older and a lot more expensive Neal. Chicago would have to add to get a younger winger and cap space in return.

 

[pistolpete11]

Until I see Neal be successful in the playoffs, I'm not going to buy it. I just don't think his game is built for the playoffs. His shot would be hard to replace, but I'd rather have a more complete player who can do things besides just score.

 

[wheelz87]

Sharp is an older and a lot more expensive Neal. Chicago would have to add to get a younger winger and cap space in return.

Yea pretty much. Why are we doing this deal again? For the sake of change? There better be a + on Chicagos end. I get people being frustrated with Neal, but he's 26/27, is a 40 goal scorer, and is on one if the best contracts in the NHL. I don't get it.

 

[iFishyHD]

Neal+Sharp+Morin+mid pick could get my attention

 

[T1K]

Neal for Sharp makes about as much sense as a poopy flavored lollipop. We're not gonna just trade Neal for the sake of trading him.

 

[Captain Hook]

Yeah, Neal for Sharp has to be the most pointless trade I've seen proposed in a while. Good lord. Does nothing for us and doesn't do much for Chicago either. It's like a random video game trade made just for the hell of making a trade.

 

[Asuna]

Neal+Sharp+Morin+mid pick could get my attention

That could be possible. Quenneville doesn't seem to be a fan of Morin.

 

[StaalForOne]

Sharp is a better, right handed version of Neal, and can actually make plays by himself, and not leach off teammates. The only reason that trade wouldn't make sense is the age difference.

 

[mpp9]

Sharp is a better, right handed version of Neal, and can actually make plays by himself, and not leach off teammates. The only reason that trade wouldn't make sense is the age difference.

He's also turning 33. And alot of his game is based on speed.

I'd rather have Kesler, and I wouldn't deal Neal for him.

 

[Riptide]

Kane for Neal makes very little sense from the Jets perspective in my opinion.

ANA has no need for wingers like Neal or Kunitz; they are not going to waste trade assets that they need to get a C and D.

I agree that Neal/Kane makes a lot less sense for Winnipeg than it does for Pittsburgh.

Anaheim is actually weak on the left side, and outside of Perry, they have no real proven top 6 wingers. Even in the Kunitz proposal, it wasn't entirely rejected outright for those reasons. There were comments that it would make more sense to go after a center first, and concerns over his age. I don't see anything happening there till after FA starts and they get a chance to see how they might fill their #2C hole, or what Kesler will really cost now that his list is apparently down to 2 places (ANA/CHI).

 

[Waffle Fries]

Why are we taking one of those twitter accounts that make up rumors seriously? Are we really that bored

 

[Captain Hook]

That could be possible. Quenneville doesn't seem to be a fan of Morin.

Why would Chicago want to add a bunch of stuff to Sharp just to get Neal though? I still don't think the deal makes any sense.

 

[iFishyHD]

Why are we taking one of those twitter accounts that make up rumors seriously? Are we really that bored

Yes.

 

[StaalForOne]

He's also turning 33. And alot of his game is based on speed.

I'd rather have Kesler, and I wouldn't deal Neal for him.

Yea, like I said age is the main factor (from Pitts perspective), but it's a pretty odd trade all around for both sides. Agree on the Kesler part as well, maybe they'll thrown in Shinkaruk? (obviously wishful thinking)

 

[Dupree13]

Yea pretty much. Why are we doing this deal again? For the sake of change? There better be a + on Chicagos end. I get people being frustrated with Neal, but he's 26/27, is a 40 goal scorer, and is on one if the best contracts in the NHL. I don't get it.

I'm with you. People talk about this roster like it needs to be blown up as if the team finished last place.

There are a few spots that need upgraded. Namely they need another top 6 winger. You trade Neal for Sharp or Kane and this team still needs another top 6 winger.

If you think Kane/Sharp are that much better than Neal that's great and all but it doesn't move the needle all that much imo.

 

[Riptide]

I don't think the Jets have as much pressure to win-now as you've stated although they do need to make the playoffs. I still fail to see how Neal (versus Kane) helps them win-now and make the playoffs.

It's not that Neal>Kane, but that IF they're set on moving him, Neal is better than a package, especially for a team that needs to compete and very much needs to make the playoffs.

 

[Asuna]

Why would Chicago want to add a bunch of stuff to Sharp just to get Neal though? I still don't think the deal makes any sense.

Maybe they like Neal better? Want to get younger? I have no idea.

 

[Sutter16]

I think Nisky's gone anyway, but: https://twitter.com/craigcustance/status/481851897091850243

 

[Riptide]

There is absolutely 0% chance that Boyle gets $2.8 million. Nikitin just signed for $4.5 and is not nearly as good as Boyle.

He's not nearly as old as Boyle either. Nikitin is 28, Boyle is 38 (or will be to start the season).