Injury Report: 2013-2014 Injury Update Thread III [MOD Warning post 218]

[CrimsonPuma*]

If anybody was listening to 104.3 this morning and heard Roy talk, it is pretty clear that Hejda is playing with some sort of major injury. Roy said when asked about the criticism of Hejda's play, that we will see once the playoffs are over.

Any ideas on what his injury could be? And if it is is so bad, why is Roy playing him? Gotta wonder if it's a hand injury with all of his blown clear attempts and dropped sticks.

 

[5280]

If anybody was listening to 104.3 this morning and heard Roy talk, it is pretty clear that Hejda is playing with some sort of major injury. Roy said when asked about the criticism of Hejda's play, that we will see once the playoffs are over.

Any ideas on what his injury could be? And if it is is so bad, why is Roy playing him? Gotta wonder if it's a hand injury with all of his blown clear attempts and dropped sticks.

Yeah, I'm guessing broken hand of some sort. YOLO!

 

[TheFactor]

If anybody was listening to 104.3 this morning and heard Roy talk, it is pretty clear that Hejda is playing with some sort of major injury. Roy said when asked about the criticism of Hejda's play, that we will see once the playoffs are over.

Any ideas on what his injury could be? And if it is is so bad, why is Roy playing him? Gotta wonder if it's a hand injury with all of his blown clear attempts and dropped sticks.

That explains the major stick dropping issue. Sucks that our defensive depth is so bad.

 

[ThatAvsGamer]

Looks like I was wrong about this one (Duchene)

 

[Foppa2118]

If only he didn't play Hejda in the last game of the season that meant absolutely nothing. One of Roy's few slip ups of the season.

Roy said he would do the same thing when asked about another team scratching their stars a few days prior, but he didn't. He went with his full lineup.

 

[hockeyfish]

If only he didn't play Hejda in the last game of the season that meant absolutely nothing. One of Roy's few slip ups of the season.

Roy said he would do the same thing when asked about another team scratching their stars a few days prior, but he didn't. He went with his full lineup.

That was probably the plan until Barrie got hurt and had to be replaced. Perhaps they should have planned ahead better, but at the time, they dressed the only 18 healthy players on the roster.

 

[Foppa2118]

That was probably the plan until Barrie got hurt and had to be replaced. Perhaps they should have planned ahead better, but at the time, they dressed the only 18 healthy players on the roster.

Yea but he played 7 D in that game when he didn't have to. Had Wilson and Elliott in the lineup.

To your point though, that's another one of the few Roy mistakes. Continually playing with fire with a 20 or 21 man active roster.

 

[hockeyfish]

Yea but he played 7 D in that game when he didn't have to. Had Wilson and Elliott in the lineup.

To your point though, that's another one of the few Roy mistakes. Continually playing with fire with a 20 or 21 man active roster.

By the end, I think we were at 23. And I think Wilson was a forward in that game. But yeah, he certainly ran a light roster at times when a spare forward would have been massively beneficial. Also, maybe I don't know the roster rules, but why did they not IR Duchene at all when he was injured so they could call up replacements? They seemed to do that a lot, scratching player who were out extended periods rather than IRing them.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Don't need to IR players after the trade deadline. Which is why PA never went back on IR for example. There is no roster limit. Yeah they could have carried a few extras but Roy wasn't going to play them anyway. If they knew ahead of time that Anaheim game was meaningless then maybe they would have used more callups. It's too many what ifs. They could have easily needed that game in Anaheim.

 

[hockeyfish]

Don't need to IR players after the trade deadline. Which is why PA never went back on IR for example. There is no roster limit. Yeah they could have carried a few extras but Roy wasn't going to play them anyway. If they knew ahead of time that Anaheim game was meaningless then maybe they would have used more callups. It's too many what ifs. They could have easily needed that game in Anaheim.

I thought they were still limited to 23 after the deadline.

 

[henchman21]

After the trade deadline, teams are allowed 4 non-emergency call-ups until the AHL teams finish their seasons. On March 11th the Avs called up Malone and Carey. There are 2. On March 19th Carey got sent down and then called back up, that is #3. On April 12th Elliott was called up to take the final non emergency call up.

Barrie and Sarich were hurt, and all of the non-emergency call ups were used up and the Avs didn't have any extra players. I get the sentiment that Roy should have rested people, but look at the scratch list on the 14th's game: Duchene, Barrie, Sarich, Mitchell, McLeod, and Varly... there was nobody else to play... everybody that was healthy had to play some minutes.

If people really want to harp on it, they should make more of an issue that the Avs didn't have a full roster at the trade deadline so that they could have called up some extra players for the final game.

 

[Foppa2118]

After the trade deadline, teams are allowed 4 non-emergency call-ups until the AHL teams finish their seasons. On March 11th the Avs called up Malone and Carey. There are 2. On March 19th Carey got sent down and then called back up, that is #3. On April 12th Elliott was called up to take the final non emergency call up.

Barrie and Sarich were hurt, and all of the non-emergency call ups were used up and the Avs didn't have any extra players. I get the sentiment that Roy should have rested people, but look at the scratch list on the 14th's game: Duchene, Barrie, Sarich, Mitchell, McLeod, and Varly... there was nobody else to play... everybody that was healthy had to play some minutes.

If people really want to harp on it, they should make more of an issue that the Avs didn't have a full roster at the trade deadline so that they could have called up some extra players for the final game.

No one is harping on the issue. This is like people saying the "sky is falling" when pointing out a team is playing poorly. It's not a big deal, it was just a small mistake.

Not having a full roster is a big part of the issue. Not bringing in a depth forward that could have been available is part of the issue. Roy chose not to do so for whatever reason, just like he chose not to call up players when guys might miss games earlier in the year.

It's only a problem, if it goes wrong and someone can't play and you have to dress 17 forwards in a back to back game, and then go with 16 because one gets injured in the game, or if a key D man gets hurt in a meaningless game. If those kinds of things don't happen, it's no harm no foul.

The 4 emergency call ups made things difficult but they didn't have to be. Sarich could have been on the IR, allowing for another forward or D man but he wasn't. He was never put on IR and listed as day to day, even though he hadn't played in forever, and they clearly had no plans of doing so with his back. They also traded for a 3rd string goalie they had to keep on the active roster instead of a forward that could have helped them.

These are all parts of the issue. Not a terrible mistake, just a little slip up that could have been prevented in hindsight. Roy may be god, but he's not infallible.

Edit: It looks like Sarich played some games after the trade deadline, so him being on the IR wouldn't have helped.

 

[Former Ladder]

No one is harping on the issue. This is like people saying the "sky is falling" when pointing out a team is playing poorly. It's not a big deal, it was just a small mistake.

Not having a full roster is a big part of the issue. Not bringing in a depth forward that could have been available is part of the issue. Roy chose not to do so for whatever reason, just like he chose not to call up players when guys might miss games earlier in the year.

It's only a problem, if it goes wrong and someone can't play and you have to dress 17 forwards, and then go with 16 because one gets injured in the game, or if a key D man gets hurt in a meaningless game. If those kinds of things don't happen, it's no harm no foul.

The 4 emergency call ups made things difficult but they didn't have to be. Sarich could have been on the IR, allowing for another forward or D man but he wasn't. He was never put on IR and listed as day to day, even though he hadn't played in forever, and they clearly had no plans of doing so with his back. They also traded for a 3rd string goalie they had to keep on the active roster instead of a forward that could have helped them.

These are all parts of the issue. Not a terrible mistake, just a little slip up that could have been prevented in hindsight. Roy may be god, but he's not infallible.

Roy still must have a reason for not putting players on IR. My guess is that he knew LE was short and did not trust the healthy players there well enough to play NHL games for us when he could help it. Not putting players on IR allows him to meet the minimum roster requirements.

I expect this to be a non-issue when we start building some depth in the minors.

 

[Avs_19]

No surprise about Hejda's injury. He's clearly not right, which is why he can barely make passes and keeps dropping his stick.

Big props to him for playing through it.

 

[henchman21]

Emergency call ups are when a team falls below the standards for icing a team.. they have to have less than 2G, 6D, or 12F. Now the Avs were below the 12F threshold, but Wilson had been playing forward for a bit so it might have been an argument to get somebody called up (honestly don't know in that situation what the AHL/PHPA would say). Having a player on IR does nothing to help the emergency call up situation.

 

[Foppa2118]

Emergency call ups are when a team falls below the standards for icing a team.. they have to have less than 2G, 6D, or 12F. Now the Avs were below the 12F threshold, but Wilson had been playing forward for a bit so it might have been an argument to get somebody called up (honestly don't know in that situation what the AHL/PHPA would say). Having a player on IR does nothing to help the emergency call up situation.

I'm pretty sure we'll see that rule taken out or tweaked for next year too. None of the GM's seem particularly happy with it, and a few were pretty outspoken against it.

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

McGinn's new instagram picture shows him with a cast on his left wrist.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Yeah I saw that. I recall Dater said he had various ailments.

 

[The Shermanator]

Well I'm confident in blaming our playoff loss on injuries.

Dutchy Tanguay and Barrie - completely torn knee ligaments and shattered knee caps
Hejda and Landy - shattered hands
McGinn - shattered forearm
Mitchell - Life threatening brain damage

 

[Taak19]

Well I'm confident in blaming our playoff loss on injuries.

Dutchy Tanguay and Barrie - completely torn knee ligaments and shattered knee caps
Hejda and Landy - shattered hands
McGinn - shattered forearm
Mitchell - Life threatening brain damage

Don't forget Sarich.

 

[Avsboy]

Well I'm confident in blaming our playoff loss on injuries.

Dutchy Tanguay and Barrie - completely torn knee ligaments and shattered knee caps
Hejda and Landy - shattered hands
McGinn - shattered forearm
Mitchell - Life threatening brain damage

Does this refer to the concussion or to the permanent condition of being Mitchell?

 

[Avs_19]

Looks like McGinn hasn't started his offseason "diet" yet. He didn't look too big in that picture.

 

[Foppa2118]

Don't forget Sarich.

Double leg amputee at around game 5 or so of the season.

 

[The Shermanator]

Don't forget Sarich.

Who is Sarich?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Who is Sarich?

I think it's a type of hot sauce used on sandwiches.