2012 Ivan Hlinka Memorial Tournament
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1Gold Standard
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No team should be video taping any team, the practice pf video-taping should be banned.
These are 16=17 year old players..worry about video taping when you get to the pros.
Stay Classy Sweden, hard to do, but at least try.
These are 16=17 year old players..worry about video taping when you get to the pros.
Stay Classy Sweden, hard to do, but at least try.
Jussi
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What? Are you mental or something? Video taping other team's been around for ages in all sports. It's called "scouting".
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Not practice...video taping an opponent's 's practice is a new concept.. Here's a novel approach, ask permission to video tape a team's practice and if they agree to it, then knock yourself out, if not, then respect their decision/wish not to be video taped. That simple. Since when do do you think you have the devine right to do what ever the hell you choose? Ask the team's permission, if they don't want it, move on, shut your ***hole and go tape ducks in the park.
Or how about Team Canada playing by the rules set by the IIHF for this? That would be the mature way of behaving.
It's all about winning. Coming from a country where the "anything to win" mentality is ingrained in every hockey player i'd think you were familiar with this concept.
The video is hillarious though. Just before it cuts to black you see Domis face, and he does not look happy.
Lobbing pucks at someone in the stands however, is not hillarious, it's pathetic.
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Take from it what you will, I think the practice of videotaping an opponent's practice should be banned, or at the very least a request should be made by the team to attend practice for videotaping.. And if the team so happens to be against it, then that wish should be respected.
There's a lot of video easily available of the players in questions. Every federation should have a book on most of the players by the time they get to the U18 team... I just happen to believe a team should have that right to allow it or not allow it. It shouldn't be a team's right to do it. I don't want Team Canada doing it and I don't believe other teams have that automatic right. My opinion, if you agree with or not makes very little difference to me... Shooting pucks at the person doing the taping would be a serious breach and I wouldn't condone it if I were HC and I hope he's dealt with and punished, but I think Canada had every right to practice without it being videotaped.
There's a lot of video easily available of the players in questions. Every federation should have a book on most of the players by the time they get to the U18 team... I just happen to believe a team should have that right to allow it or not allow it. It shouldn't be a team's right to do it. I don't want Team Canada doing it and I don't believe other teams have that automatic right. My opinion, if you agree with or not makes very little difference to me... Shooting pucks at the person doing the taping would be a serious breach and I wouldn't condone it if I were HC and I hope he's dealt with and punished, but I think Canada had every right to practice without it being videotaped.
And Sweden (as any other team) had the right to film without being bombarded with pucks and obscenities while having their equipment stolen (later returned, but without battery).
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Teams look at game tape but they're not supposed to tape practices. The New England Patriots were fined $500,000 for doing it in 2007. Maybe it's different in Europe but it's a no-no in North America for sure. Teams sometimes have closed practices because they don't want opponents to even watch what they're doing.
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On the one hand I don't really see the big deal, as what serious piece of scouting intel can gleamed from practice anyway; but on the other hand, I believe a team has the right to a closed practice if it so chooses, all teams, even Team Sweden. I hope the Federations can come to some sort of an agreement on the practice, whereby it is either banned or a team has to make a request...
If they are allowed to my guess would be that they would if they thought it would give them information they wanted.
If they were not allowed to, no they would not film. And if team Sweden went to a closed Canadian practice I would not have any problems with Canadians being pissed or stealing the camera.
Filming practices of international teams should not be a surprise to any one. But last year in the U-18WJC(I think it was) a similar dispute errupted when Sweden was filming Canadas practice. There were apperantly lots of arguing back then as well. The Canadians wanted to run the Swedes out of the building while the Swedes simply replied that they were allowed under IIHF ruling to film as much as they wanted. Though Grönborg stated that their agressive reactions might have been because of lack of routine or knowledge about the ruling.
In international soccer, if you don't film the opponents practice, you'd have to be concidered Pejorative Slured.
In international soccer, if you don't film the opponents practice, you'd have to be concidered Pejorative Slured.
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The behaviour of the Canadian coaches was very immature. I don't think practices should be recorded - but it sounds like it's common in Sweden, at least - and apparently it's not against the IIHF rules. If Canada doesn't like they should complain to the IIHF...not start shooting pucks at people.
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Which are ...? I've searched for a bit and found no official IIHF policy on the recording of team practices by opponents.
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And that is all that matters.
Lets be honest, he probably could of hit him if thats what he wanted to do.
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It's a cultural thing. Simple as that. In North America it's a big no-no. If the Toronto Maple Leafs did this to the Ottawa Senators or vice versa they likely would have reacted very similarly because videotaping or recording another team's practice in any way is not acceptable.
Clearly based on the way Sweden has approached this both at the U18 in April as well as the Hlinka it's considered acceptable there. If the IIHF rule states that it's permitted, Team Canada should be speaking with the tournament committee or the IIHF to deal with this. But they certainly approached the situation the wrong way with the way they behaved in that video.
Clearly based on the way Sweden has approached this both at the U18 in April as well as the Hlinka it's considered acceptable there. If the IIHF rule states that it's permitted, Team Canada should be speaking with the tournament committee or the IIHF to deal with this. But they certainly approached the situation the wrong way with the way they behaved in that video.
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