This is a thread why exactly?
The Devil's GM has all but said directly that Jack is our boy.Because the World Championship is over and we're going to debate this anyway? Might as well try to keep it in one thread.
All 1st overall talk
The Devil's GM has all but said directly that Jack is our boy.
Every single professional scout, agency, whatever has also stated he is the consensus.
So yeah, what's the debate?
This is like Matthews vs Laine. No one thinks they’re on the same tier except for the team that will get KAkko + Finnish fans.The Devil's GM has all but said directly that Jack is our boy.
Every single professional scout, agency, whatever has also stated he is the consensus.
So yeah, what's the debate?
Eichel or McDavid...
Shut it down.
It is nothing like Matthews vs Laine. And only tier above Kakko is generational, is Hughes generational? Pretty generational WHC by Hughes, luckily he is well rested for the combine atleast.This is like Matthews vs Laine. No one thinks they’re on the same tier except for the team that will get KAkko + Finnish fans.
My long standing theory is that vowels migrated to Finland from Czechoslovokia, so you have names like Kaako and Niinimaa in Finland while you have names like Petr and Jagr in the Czech Republic.I have been told that foreigners have trouble with the Finnish double-vowls and double-consonants. Kaapo Kakko in all simplicity is probably the best example of this
Everyone would rank Kakko #1 even my scouts(I technically employ no scouts) if we didn’t take potential into account? I dispute that notion in 2 ways:
1) I don’t think it’s guaranteed that the start of next season Hughes isn’t better than Kakko.
2) There is no reason to remove future potential from the equation for guys who will be under team control for the next 7 years.
In general, I may also dispute the notion that only some NA and Devils fans think Hughes is definitively the top guy. I see lots of pundits saying it’s close yet I don’t see any pundits willing to say Kakko is above Hughes, that is weird.
HFBoards is the outlier, you go to threads here and maybe a quarter to half the people think Kakko should go #1 but that seems to be just a HFBoards opinion right now.
Everyone would rank Kakko #1 even my scouts(I technically employ no scouts) if we didn’t take potential into account? I dispute that notion in 2 ways:
1) I don’t think it’s guaranteed that the start of next season Hughes isn’t better than Kakko.
2) There is no reason to remove future potential from the equation for guys who will be under team control for the next 7 years.
In general, I may also dispute the notion that only some NA and Devils fans think Hughes is definitively the top guy. I see lots of pundits saying it’s close yet I don’t see any pundits willing to say Kakko is above Hughes, that is weird.
HFBoards is the outlier, you go to threads here and maybe a quarter to half the people think Kakko should go #1 but that seems to be just a HFBoards opinion right now.
It's silly to think there isn't a legit debate. Kakko just won a tournament full of professional players of which he was the best player. I'm team Hughes, but lets be realistic.
It's silly to think there isn't a legit debate. Kakko just won a tournament full of professional players of which he was the best player. I'm team Hughes, but lets be realistic.
Mannyelk on Twitter has been beating the Kakko should go #1 overall drum pretty hard - he says his model has Kakko #1. I'm a little skeptical of models when it comes to very high end performances like Hughes's in the USHL this season, though.
There isnt though. Debate how close they are all you want because of a single tournament but not even the Rangers take Kakko 1st overallIt's silly to think there isn't a legit debate. Kakko just won a tournament full of professional players of which he was the best player. I'm team Hughes, but lets be realistic.
Except for the professional world whos jobs it is to evaluate talent. They think its 100/0 JackIt is nothing like Matthews vs Laine. And only tier above Kakko is generational, is Hughes generational? Pretty generational WHC by Hughes, luckily he is well rested for the combine atleast.
And everyone sees them head to head actually (Excluding devils fans and some NA guys), only because Hughes is a C and american. Also because he maybe has higher ceiling, otherwise everyone would rank Kakko as #1, including your experts.
Mannyelk on Twitter has been beating the Kakko should go #1 overall drum pretty hard - he says his model has Kakko #1. I'm a little skeptical of models when it comes to very high end performances like Hughes's in the USHL this season, though.