GDT: #18: Panthers at FLYERS, Tuesday, Nov. 13, 2018, 7:00 p.m. ET

[Here4ThaLids]

 

[Stizzle]

Im about done with Jordan Weal...he's probably gonna have a hatty now.

He's the least of our worries. Playing adequately. The poor guy has Simmer & Weise as linemates.

 

[Angry Hockey Dad]

Weise hasn't been that bad to be honest. My only complaints lately have been some soft goaltending (Elliot has been playing good) and terribad PK

 

[Curufinwe]

Of the regulars, Weal has the 2nd best CF%, and Laughton has the worst.

Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

 

[GirouxGiroux]

The top 3 on the team in CF% are also the top three in oZS%. Laughton has the second-highest dZS%.

Context is important.

 

[Lindberg]

Of the regulars, Weal has the 2nd best CF%, and Laughton has the worst.

Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

That is interesting since Laughton has looked like one of the best players on the ice game in and game out.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

We've beaten 4 bad teams, might as well beat another and act like the coach is doing a good job.

Coaching aside the Flyers usually lose to bad teams lol

 

[deadhead]

Weal SCF/SCA 74/43; HDCF/CA 32/17
Laughton SCF/SCA 49/73; HDCF/CA 26/31
Vorobyev SCF/SCA 17/44; HDCF/CA 7/22
Couts SCF/SCA 115/108; HDCF/CA 37/50
Patrick SCF/SCA 69/79; HDCF/CA 37/28

Last six games:
Weal CF 50.0, SCF/SCA 41/24; HDCF/CA 19/8
Couts CF 53.59, SCF/SCA 42/30; HDCF/CA 12/14
Patrick CF 42.20, SCF/SCA 34/42; HDCF/CA 23/14
Lehtera CF 29.63, SCF/SCA 3/19; HDCF/CA 3/8
Laughton CF 43.02, SCF/SCA 6/11; HDCF/CA 2/5

Laughton struggled in the top 9, right now I think the problem is Lehtera is dinged and has regressed.
Laughton may just be more effective in a 4th line, forechecking role.
When JVR returns Hak will probably go Weise - Laughton - NAK
Then when Raff returns, Raffl - Laughton - Weise

I know this kills Striiker, but Weal has been our best center.
Patrick is interesting, I think his numbers reflect how careful he is and how responsible he is defensively, he doesn't generate a lot of shots, but generates good scoring chances without getting burned at the other end of the ice.

 

[marcsson68]

Panthers have been better than the standings show. Another win and for the first time this season it may feel as if we belonged.
Personal wish: Sanheim scoring

 

[deadhead]

Last six games:

Weise CF 48.73, SCF/SCA 43/28; HDCF/CA 28/12
Simmonds CF 51.59, SCF/SCA 45/26; HDCF/CA 20/10

Giroux CF 54.59, SCF/SCA 43/33; HDCF/CA 12/15
TK CF 55.35, SCF/SCA 36/21; HDCF/CA 10/8

Lindblom CF 41.86, SCF/SCA 39/34; HDCF/CA 28/9
Voracek CF 39.43, SCF/SCA 31/44; HDCF/CA 21/16

 

[Curufinwe]

The top 3 on the team in CF% are also the top three in oZS%. Laughton has the second-highest dZS%.

Context is important.

Somehow I don't think there will be much support for blaming DZ starts for MacDOnald's 40 CF%.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

This website is acting crazy again. Everybody grab your helmets and shell up.

 

[AdamParrot]

Deadhead, please. Everyone knows that Couts is selke-caliber center, everyone. But everyone knows that Giroux is elite player too. So, please. Credit for G. And shut up.

 

[Tripod]

This website is acting crazy again. Everybody grab your helmets and shell up.

When it started acting up for me, I googled William Nylander to see if he was traded.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

The top 3 on the team in CF% are also the top three in oZS%. Laughton has the second-highest dZS%.

Zone Start impacts on Shot metrics are often severely overrated when taken on the whole. You have significant Shot impacts for ~15-20 seconds.

Laughton has started 29 of his 231 5v5 Shifts in the Defensive Zone. If you want to significantly move his DZS% rank within the team, you're talking about moving a handful of Shifts relative to the whole.

 

[tictactoe]

I still can't believe we went from Berube to Hakstok. What the **** did we ever do to deserve this? And what thread is this? Whatever.

We went from Stevens to Berube.. so why are you surprised when we went from Berube to Hakstal? Seems logical..

 

[BernieParent]

This website is acting crazy again. Everybody grab your helmets and shell up.

 

[GirouxGiroux]

Zone Start impacts on Shot metrics are often severely overrated when taken on the whole. You have significant Shot impacts for ~15-20 seconds.

Laughton has started 29 of his 231 5v5 Shifts in the Defensive Zone. If you want to significantly move his DZS% rank within the team, you're talking about moving a handful of Shifts relative to the whole.

When shifts are less than a minute, 15-20 seconds is kind of significant.

That aside, the point is that someone was trotting out Weal's CF% like that one number is particularly meaningful. No single stat can sum up anything. No two stats can sum up anything. Stats are a tool. Nothing more, nothing less.

Personally, I think Weal is a liability. He's weak on the puck and he doesn't bury his chances. His CF% doesn't change that. Weal is 26 now. When a guy has wheels, people tend to give him a lot more rope. I think Weal reached the end of his rope last season. He's just a placeholder at this point.

 

[deadhead]

Weal is certainly not a liability the way he's been playing the last six games. Every metric supports the eyeball that he's driving play and making good things happen, and he's not picking up the bad stick penalties he was committing his first few games. He's still meh on defense, but he's a plus on offense.

Now can he maintain this good play? Stay tuned.

 

[dats81]

Panthers are roaring right now and have put together a nice little streak against good teams.
Flyers better bring their A game.

 

[caseoftastykakes]

Panthers are roaring right now and have put together a nice little streak against good teams.
Flyers better bring their A game.

It’s because they have NHL goaltending again. With Bobby Lou back from injury. Take notes Hexy

 

[JojoTheWhale]

When shifts are less than a minute, 15-20 seconds is kind of significant..

Yes, absolutely. The general rule is that they mean quite a bit to the individual shift, but when you start measuring across full deployment, the impact is minor in all but the truly extreme cases because they’re just not a huge portion of shift starts.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Do Panthers have some crippling injuries that will be to our benefit?

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Hoffman is on a 12 game point streak right now.

 

[landsbergfan]

Do Panthers have some crippling injuries that will be to our benefit?

Just the suffering from a lack of soul and purpose that goes along with living in Florida

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Is Weal new Hagg? Blocking voro and such?