Prospect Info: 17-18 Blues Top Prospect #2

[542365]

Who is the second best prospect in our system?

#1-Vince Dunn(67%)

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[2 Minute Minor]

We seem to be missing the poll.

 

[Stealth JD]

Walman

 

[542365]

We seem to be missing the poll.

It's up now

Jake Walman for me.

 

[Jordeau]

I'm going with Barbashev here. It's a toss up between him and Walman.

 

[KirkOut]

let's try Walman again

 

[Dbrownss]

Walman. High ceiling, strong likelihood of being in the NHL soon

 

[stl76]

Walman all day, but Barb is a close #3 IMO.

 

[Daley Tarasenkshow]

Barbashev for me.

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

I was pretty surprised to see Dunn win the last one so handily, and I'd be tempted to say that voting Walman #2 here is an example of recency bias were it not for the fact that we've seen even less of Dunn than we have of Barbashev. All the same, I'm voting Barbashev here. He showed me that he can be a valuable addition to our top-6 last year, and I believe that he will be that. I think Walman has the very realistic potential to be the best of all of our defensive prospects (better than Dunn), but top-6 forwards are the area of greater value for us right now, imo. That gives Barbs the edge.

 

[2 Minute Minor]

I am voting Walman again. But I hope we get some diversity of opinion on these threads and not a group-think vote.

 

[LetsGoBooze]

Barbs is already in the dance and has been produtive out the gate, he's the easy choice. Looking like others gonna put too much weight on rookie camp/Walman...

 

[BlueDream]

Walman.

Our defense in a year or so should be so ****ing insane it gets me amped.

 

[Itsnotatrap]

I am voting Walman again. But I hope we get some diversity of opinion on these threads and not a group-think vote.

To me, it's very bottlenecked here. Justifiable to go a lot of directions as far as I can tell.

 

[KirkOut]

I was pretty surprised to see Dunn win the last one so handily, and I'd be tempted to say that voting Walman #2 here is an example of recency bias were it not for the fact that we've seen even less of Dunn than we have of Barbashev. All the same, I'm voting Barbashev here. He showed me that he can be a valuable addition to our top-6 last year, and I believe that he will be that. I think Walman has the very realistic potential to be the best of all of our defensive prospects (better than Dunn), but top-6 forwards are the area of greater value for us right now, imo. That gives Barbs the edge.

I don't think it's recency bias considering the fact that many of us have been very high on Walman for 2+ years now

 

[abel17]

I know everyone takes into account their own factors for voting but I generally grade 75/25 on upside/floor so Walman takes this somewhat comfortably for me.

 

[Blueston]

Walman.

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

I don't think it's recency bias considering the fact that many of us have been very high on Walman for 2+ years now

not the point I was trying to make at all

 

[KirkOut]

not the point I was trying to make at all

aite solid

 

[rumrokh]

Barbashev.

I understand why Walman is more tantalizing to some people, but he has a lot more to prove. And I'm higher on Barbashev's offensive ability than most Blues fans appear to be.

 

[Itsnotatrap]

Barbashev - 21 yrs, 7 mo
Walman - 21 yrs, 5 mo
Thompson - 19 yrs, 8 mo
Kyrou - 19 yr, 2 mo
Kostin - 18 yr, 2 mo
Thomas - 18 yr, 0 mo

I'm not sure who I am voting for here, it's obviously going to be between Barbashev and Walman in practice, and I am considering both. I just want to set the stage for an argument for Kyrou at #4, I guess. He made a major step forward this year. If we redrafted last year, he is no longer second round.

On his draft year, he had a statistically similar year (17-34-51) to Thomas (16-50-66). Both played on good teams their draft year. Kyrou had 3 teammates that jumped right to the NHL (Zacha, Konecny, Chychrun). Last year he played on a much worse team overall, but finished 6th in the OHL in points, and 5th in assists (30-64-94). He didn't have the benefit of being a cog in the machine like Erie and Owen Sound players did. Next highest point total on the team was 58. He clearly drove the offense.

Barbashev locked himself into a safely middle six center, with second line being very realistic. Walman could prove to be right there with Dunn, or even beat him out of camp and be a huge part of success as soon as this year. Kostin slipped due to a bad injury and maybe the Russian factor, otherwise he wouldn't have been there even at 20.

All that said, Kyrou actually is starting to take the look of a true first line prospect, maybe even at center.

 

[Memento]

I voted for Barbashev. Walman - as good as I think he'll be - hasn't even played in the AHL yet. Barbashev has played in the NHL, spent some time on our top line with Schwartz and Tarasenko, and, in my honest opinion, could get even better than he is now.

Walman is definitely third on my list, though, and I'm a huge fan of him.

 

[rumrokh]

I voted for Barbashev. Walman - as good as I think he'll be - hasn't even played in the AHL yet. Barbashev has played in the NHL, spent some time on our top line with Schwartz and Tarasenko, and, in my honest opinion, could get even better than he is now.

Walman is definitely third on my list, though, and I'm a huge fan of him.

Walman joined the Wolves to close out last season and had 2 goals in 7 regular season games and 2 in 8 playoff games.

 

[EastonBlues22]

I think you can make convincing arguments for a number of different guys, but I'm going with Walman here. I've had him neck and neck with Dunn for a few years now, and he hasn't done anything to temper my enthusiasm over that span.

 

[Vincenzo Arelliti]

Walman, but only because of readiness and proven play do I put him over Kostin. Barb is lower than Kostin, Kyrou, and Thompson when it comes to talent, imo