NFL: 15 female employees report sexual harassment by several Washington executives

[archangel2]

For those not paying attention. Google the Red Skins cheer leaders in costa Rica. I find that more disgusting than what is being reported now. Cheer leaders were pimped out to sponsors on that trip amongst other things.

 

[John Price]

OK how is any Redskin fan not willing to sieze on any excuse to be rid of Snyder?

Because trying to oust Snyder over this would be cancel culture run amok. And you know how I feel about cancel culture.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Because trying to oust Snyder over this would be cancel culture run amok. And you know how I feel about cancel culture.

Cancel culture sure is worse than holding people accountable for sexual harassment.

 

[Shockmaster]

Cancel culture sure is worse than holding people accountable for sexual harassment.

If the NFL is willing to look the other way with Robert Kraft, why should we expect them to do any different with Dan Snyder? Especially when Snyder himself didn't appear to do anything illegal as it relates to these accusations.

 

[John Price]

Cancel culture sure is worse than holding people accountable for sexual harassment.

The worst that comes out of it is a fine but Snyder is highly unlikely to lose his ownership over this.

Also you bitch about holding people accountable but the ones who did the harassing were fired...

 

[WeThreeKings]

If the NFL is willing to look the other way with Robert Kraft, why should we expect them to do any different with Dan Snyder? Especially when Snyder himself didn't appear to do anything illegal as it relates to these accusations.

I don't expect them to do anything different but taking issue with 'cancel culture' is about the same as saying any future suspensions for domestic violence cannot exceed what Ray Rice got because what Ray Rice did was worse.

The issue is with the NFL and how it handles these situations. It isn't people who want those who commit, or endorse, or turn an active blind eye to sexual harassment to be held accountable for their part to play in it.

This issue in a vacuum deserves harsh, harsh penalties for those involved, actively and passively. Any other issues happening in the same organization (the NFL) should have also been handled in the same capacity. Just because they weren't doesn't mean this one shouldn't be and any ire raised should be the NFL's handling of previous incidents, not being out-raged that people would want accountability for sexual harassment.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The worst that comes out of it is a fine but Snyder is highly unlikely to lose his ownership over this.

Also you bitch about holding people accountable but the ones who did the harassing were fired...

Being aware of such conduct, in a position of power, and doing nothing about it is called being complicit. It doesn't matter that they are being fired now, what matters is how long Snyder knew they were doing it and did nothing about it.

 

[John Price]

Being aware of such conduct, in a position of power, and doing nothing about it is called being complicit. It doesn't matter that they are being fired now, what matters is how long Snyder knew they were doing it and did nothing about it.

Worst coming is prob a fine

 

[WeThreeKings]

Worst coming is prob a fine

And that's not enough and everyone should know that's not enough. They also shouldn't get mad about 'cancel culture' about this, they should be rightfully outraged that this stuff is continuing in Sports leagues and organizations across the world.

 

[John Price]

And that's not enough and everyone should know that's not enough. They also shouldn't get mad about 'cancel culture' about this, they should be rightfully outraged that this stuff is continuing in Sports leagues and organizations across the world.

You know damn well worse isn't coming. They aren't gonna kick an owner out over this. Dude, the only reason the name changed was sponsor pressure. The sponsors aren't going to get woke over this.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

You know damn well worse isn't coming. They aren't gonna kick an owner out over this. Dude, the only reason the name changed was sponsor pressure. The sponsors aren't going to get woke over this.

You just keep digging and digging

 

[Voight]

If the NFL is willing to look the other way with Robert Kraft, why should we expect them to do any different with Dan Snyder? Especially when Snyder himself didn't appear to do anything illegal as it relates to these accusations.

They looked the other with Irsay too. Even Haslam when his company was caught in a fraud scheme.

They typically look the other way unless the owner is directly involved, like Richardson was.

Keep in mind these are accusations that haven't been proven. I'm sure theres a good chance they are true, but we'll have to wait & see.

OK how is any Redskin fan not willing to sieze on any excuse to be rid of Snyder?

Because this isn't something that will get rid of him.

 

[John Price]

You just keep digging and digging

You seem to think it's okay to just cancel any owner that hurts people's feelings. Someone even brought up Haslem who is also a clown and was even investigated by the FBI. Again, owners are not good people. Many owners are bad people. James Dolan is a shit head. Eugene Melnyk is a shithead. Should we just cancel all owners you disagree with?

They're not going to get rid of an owner just because he's a bad guy.

 

[John Price]

Even if he didn’t know about it, how did he respond when the story broke? Did he clean up his organization? Sure doesn’t look like it with the guys fired yesterday. Snyder kept the same culture of harassment in place.

Lolwhat. He fired everyone listed in the article who harassed people. Did you even read the article?

 

[WeThreeKings]

You seem to think it's okay to just cancel any owner that hurts people's feelings. Someone even brought up Haslem who is also a clown and was even investigated by the FBI. Again, owners are not good people. Many owners are bad people. James Dolan is a shit head. Eugene Melnyk is a shithead. Should we just cancel all owners you disagree with?

They're not going to get rid of an owner just because he's a bad guy.

What I'm hearing from you is that you think it is worse that people want to have higher ranking people, in organization's who have committed or were complicit in sexual harassment, held accountable for their action or inaction.

They should get rid of an owner who is complicit in a culture of sexual harassment. This isn't about being a bad guy.. this is about perpetuating a culture and environment in an organization where people were knowingly harassing women and nothing was done about it.

I have yet to see you say that, in a vacuum, regardless of how any similar situations played out in the NFL landscape - that Snyder should be held accountable and should get more than a fine and a slap on a wrist. When someone doesn't say that and instead gets outraged about the "cancel culture mob" it seems to me like you don't think that what transpired is that big of a deal and shouldn't result in a harsh and stiff punishment.

 

[Shockmaster]

What I'm hearing from you is that you think it is worse that people want to have higher ranking people, in organization's who have committed or were complicit in sexual harassment, held accountable for their action or inaction.

They should get rid of an owner who is complicit in a culture of sexual harassment. This isn't about being a bad guy.. this is about perpetuating a culture and environment in an organization where people were knowingly harassing women and nothing was done about it.

I have yet to see you say that, in a vacuum, regardless of how any similar situations played out in the NFL landscape - that Snyder should be held accountable and should get more than a fine and a slap on a wrist. When someone doesn't say that and instead gets outraged about the "cancel culture mob" it seems to me like you don't think that what transpired is that big of a deal and shouldn't result in a harsh and stiff punishment.

They should also get rid of the owner who was involved in prostitution not all that long ago, but with the help of the national media they've covered that right up.

Look, Snyder is a shit owner. But to assume he's going to be forced to sell is pretty naive, especially when you consider the history of owners like Kraft and Irsay.

 

[John Price]

They're not going to get rid of Snyder for this nor should they. The links to him directly harassing people are dubious, and if you're going to fire him for telling a male cheerleader to do cartwheels then society is really f***ed.

 

[John Price]

NFL plans to defer to the lawyer Daniel Snyder has hired - ProFootballTalk

Tied closely to whether the lawyer hired by Snyder will conclude that Snyder has significant responsibility for the workplace environment in the workplace he owns comes the question of whether and to what extent the investigation will feature transparency. If/when (when) the league and/or the team decide to provide little or nothing by way of details because the situation deals with “personnel matters,” there will be no way to check outside counsel’s work in order to determine whether a fair, even-handed investigation and analysis occurred as it relates to Snyder’s role, responsibility, and accountability.

But the answer already is known. Washington, not the NFL, has hired outside counsel. The NFL has accepted and endorsed that approach. The chances of Snyder himself ultimately being responsible for anything that happened during his 21 years of owning the team are, at this point, very small.

 

[SouthGeorge]

People think this is only going on with Skins? I can only imagine what's going on in Boston but they are so brainwashed we will never find out. Maybe after a decade of losing they will emerge.

 

[DangleCity]

If the NFL is willing to look the other way with Robert Kraft, why should we expect them to do any different with Dan Snyder? Especially when Snyder himself didn't appear to do anything illegal as it relates to these accusations.

How is paying for a HJ at a massage parlor even close to what is being alleged here?

Also just because Synder didn't do anything illegal doesnt mean he's not accountable

 

[Shockmaster]

How is paying for a HJ at a massage parlor even close to what is being alleged here?

Also just because Synder didn't do anything illegal doesnt mean he's not accountable

a) That's prostitution. b) The owner himself (Kraft) was actually the one involved in the illegal act.

Snyder is probably the biggest joke out of all the NFL owners and looks even worse because of this. That said, if he himself broke no laws unlike Kraft and Irsay have done, then it would be very arbitrary and capricious for the NFL to force a sale of the team.

 

[DangleCity]

a) That's prostitution. b) The owner himself (Kraft) was actually the one involved in the illegal act.

Snyder is probably the biggest joke out of all the NFL owners and looks even worse because of this. That said, if he himself broke no laws unlike Kraft and Irsay have done, then it would be very arbitrary and capricious for the NFL to force a sale of the team.

As a private organization, the NFL doesn't need to go strictly by the law or even common sense. They can hold their owners to whatever standards they like. I think with the with the history and nature of what was going on, they have more than enough to remove him if they choose to. (Which doesnt seem likely though given as they are allowing him to use his own counsel.)

 

[John Price]

 

[Hasbro]

Cancel culture sure is worse than holding people accountable for sexual harassment.

And use it as protection against decades of uniform incompetence.

 

[Hasbro]

People think this is only going on with Skins? I can only imagine what's going on in Boston but they are so brainwashed we will never find out. Maybe after a decade of losing they will emerge.

Had a lot to do with Jerry Richardson selling the Carolina Panthers.