GDT: #10: FLYERS at Bruins, Thursday, Oct. 25, 2018, 7:00 p.m. ET
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lol my cousin was married to chief halftown's son jeff they had a daughter named steffany. jeff was a great guy.
The constant back to the blue line for a limp wristed shot is baffling to no end. I've always had a sneaking suspicion that our beloved flyers always had a soft spot for uncreative hockey, but I didn't want to believe it. I've seen the flyers do the forwards skating down the ice in lanes and never deviating for about 30 years now. Never a drop pass, to create space or lane switching to cause coverage openings...and now, it seems like it's either a blind pass to nobody into the slot or the never ending pass back to the blue line that either results in a soft shot into the opposing team's shin pads or even worse, a turnover that leads to an odd man rush.
Watching Boston tonight, they rarely passed back to the point. Even with defensemen with legit hard shots, they barely do it. They just put the puck back down behind the net and continue to cycle and create opportunities.
The flyers in comparison go the other direction. Every puck once it's in the zone, invariably is sent back to the blue line, where it seems to always turn into a 50-50 situation. It really is almost inverse to what the Bruins do.
Watching Boston tonight, they rarely passed back to the point. Even with defensemen with legit hard shots, they barely do it. They just put the puck back down behind the net and continue to cycle and create opportunities.
The flyers in comparison go the other direction. Every puck once it's in the zone, invariably is sent back to the blue line, where it seems to always turn into a 50-50 situation. It really is almost inverse to what the Bruins do.
Doodootheclown
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The good:
- Good energy and hustle. Bruins looked asleep compared.
- One step closer to Hakstol being fired.
The bad:
- Trying to be safe leads to no goals.
- Bruins looked asleep yet won the game.
- Stupid, stupid penalties.
The ugly:
- Can't score.
- AMac's impact.
- Good energy and hustle. Bruins looked asleep compared.
- One step closer to Hakstol being fired.
The bad:
- Trying to be safe leads to no goals.
- Bruins looked asleep yet won the game.
- Stupid, stupid penalties.
The ugly:
- Can't score.
- AMac's impact.
CerpinTaxt
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I wish I was in philly, I'd totally stage a protest against Hak outside of WFC before the next home game
can't wait for february when im there and Hak has been fired and we playing good winning hockey
then i woke up
kudymen
Hakstok was a fascist clique hiver lickballs.gif
well you could say so, on first goal lost the puck and immediately redirected the puck on to own net
GapToothedWonder
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Well, I will chose to interpret these stats through this lens.
1) Coots is off to a slow start.
2) Jtown has had a very clear prerogative about Coots for years
3) Coots is coming off an injury filled off season
4) Coots made Jtown look bad last year
5) Coots will probably recover, Jtown probably won't
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Yet another whimper of a loss, punctuated by that travesty of penalties in the last 5 minutes. As always, I'll highlight some pretty good plays I saw, but let it be known that in this game, it was basically every good play I saw. No one played great tonight. In typical fashion, the Bruins dominated us in Boston. Maybe that would have changed with a PPG, but Lord knows we won't see one of those for another few weeks.
Provorov: Definitely trending upwards
Laughton: More strong PK play and another good 5v5 game
This is going to be tough to explain. The play where Pastrnak was left wide open and Elliot actually made a good save- shocking, I know- was on Hagg. Shocking, I know.
My old high school team could score on this. Hagg out of position again, forcing Giroux out of the play entirely.
Provorov: Definitely trending upwards
- The give and go with Konecny was beautiful. Cut from the blueline, wide open behind the D. Just blew by 3 guys in the O zone from the blue line.
- Defending a 2v2 and not only tied his man up (Pastrnak, I think) but totally took him out of the play. No stick free and ushered him below the goal line.
- Bank pass to Konecny, one touch to Giroux for the breakaway from the offensive blueline. That kind of quick strike offense is what the better teams in the league are capable of and is a hell of a way to beat a NZ trap
Laughton: More strong PK play and another good 5v5 game
- Diving clear on the first PK. Then cleared it again from near the goal line. He must have been out there for 15 seconds divided between 2 shifts on that first PK and cleared it both times.
- Breaking up that Marchand semi breakaway was perhaps the year's best defensive play so far. Closing speed was tremendous
This is going to be tough to explain. The play where Pastrnak was left wide open and Elliot actually made a good save- shocking, I know- was on Hagg. Shocking, I know.
- 3 Bruins in a triangle
- Bergeron 2 feet to Elliot's 1:00
- Marchand at Elliot's 11:00 but towards to top of the left circle (but still between the circles)
- Pastrnak, the puck carrier, vertically even with Bergeron but above the right circle
- Pastrnak was carrying the puck to Elliot's left, while Marchand and Bergeron were both drifting to Elliot's right, both marked well by Provorov and Giroux respectively. Hagg was marking Pastrnak, who took the shot, then Hagg left him, turned around, watched the puck, drifted to where the goal line and crease meet, and now Pastrnak is wide open. I mean, what the f*** was that? How can you let yourself wind up right next to a teammate who is marking someone, and now you're not ANYMORE, implying YOU WERE COVERING SOMEONE, WHICH YOU LEFT. Hagg is bad. He has been better, but he is bad and must be sheltered
My old high school team could score on this. Hagg out of position again, forcing Giroux out of the play entirely.
1865
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Probably our best game of the season, we lost and got shut out. Amac making up for lost time by costing us the game and then the PK confirms it. Who could have written that eh? Oh right, everyone.
Fire Hakstol. This is the only thing that makes this worthwhile.
Fire Hakstol. This is the only thing that makes this worthwhile.
Sanheim being 6th in TOI among D on a team icing Andrew Goddamn Motherf***ing Farmer is a joke.
Yet another whimper of a loss, punctuated by that travesty of penalties in the last 5 minutes. As always, I'll highlight some pretty good plays I saw, but let it be known that in this game, it was basically every good play I saw. No one played great tonight. In typical fashion, the Bruins dominated us in Boston. Maybe that would have changed with a PPG, but Lord knows we won't see one of those for another few weeks.
Provorov: Definitely trending upwards
Konecny: I hope he gets a few more games on the top line. He was really flying. Wasn't in the middle of too many scoring chances/pressure but really no Flyer was.
- The give and go with Konecny was beautiful. Cut from the blueline, wide open behind the D. Just blew by 3 guys in the O zone from the blue line.
- Defending a 2v2 and not only tied his man up (Pastrnak, I think) but totally took him out of the play. No stick free and ushered him below the goal line.
- Bank pass to Konecny, one touch to Giroux for the breakaway from the offensive blueline. That kind of quick strike offense is what the better teams in the league are capable of and is a hell of a way to beat a NZ trap
Laughton: More strong PK play and another good 5v5 game
Another game, another scoring chance for AHL regular Travis "Wussy" Sanhiem
- Diving clear on the first PK. Then cleared it again from near the goal line. He must have been out there for 15 seconds divided between 2 shifts on that first PK and cleared it both times.
- Breaking up that Marchand semi breakaway was perhaps the year's best defensive play so far. Closing speed was tremendous
This is going to be tough to explain. The play where Pastrnak was left wide open and Elliot actually made a good save- shocking, I know- was on Hagg. Shocking, I know.
AMac failing a 2/10 difficulty clear. Didn't use the boards for some reason > Soft goal. Shocking, I know.
- 3 Bruins in a triangle
- Bergeron 2 feet to Elliot's 1:00
- Marchand at Elliot's 11:00 but towards to top of the left circle (but still between the circles)
- Pastrnak, the puck carrier, vertically even with Bergeron but above the right circle
- Pastrnak was carrying the puck to Elliot's left, while Marchand and Bergeron were both drifting to Elliot's right, both marked well by Provorov and Giroux respectively. Hagg was marking Pastrnak, who took the shot, then Hagg left him, turned around, watched the puck, drifted to where the goal line and crease meet, and now Pastrnak is wide open. I mean, what the **** was that? How can you let yourself wind up right next to a teammate who is marking someone, and now you're not ANYMORE, implying YOU WERE COVERING SOMEONE, WHICH YOU LEFT. Hagg is bad. He has been better, but he is bad and must be sheltered
My old high school team could score on this. Hagg out of position again, forcing Giroux out of the play entirely.
Just remember, defensive positioning is the one thing that MacDonald is allegedly good at.
bennysflyers16
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Think back to Haag a few days ago being asked about PK. He seemed frustrated and said they are busting their ass. You can tell they are frustrated with whatever they are being told to do.
deadhead
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JojoTheWhale
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Not sure if anyone has seen this on HockeyViz yet as I'm pretty sure they're for subscribers only, but god damn do I love these:
macleish1974
Crash.....Heart of a Lion
You would unfortunately get mugged by Gritty and the kids.........remember for the kids this is a dream come true, for the jaded a nightmare.....
Really? Go look at the heat map of that game.
Well, I guess I'm wrong, but it sure looked like it. The Bruins attempts don't match at all what I thought I saw. Everything was down by the goal line. Strange. I didn't watch the 3rd period, so maybe that's where all this happened? Through the first two, I think I saw about 4 shots from the point for the Bruins. They were just crashing the net in the first 2 periods.
Not sure if anyone has seen this on HockeyViz yet as I'm pretty sure they're for subscribers only, but god damn do I love these:
Hmm. I'm wondering about the accuracy of the placement here. Was Voracek's shot that high above the circle? I thought he was definitely right at or in the circle.
I'm watching the highlights right now () and these are off. The highlight starts with DeBrusk and he's right at the center of the right circle, not at the position marked above. Chara right on the door step is also way off. Here they have him high middle slot and he's actually in the top left of the circle between the line and the dot. Bjork shot also taken in right circle, not from the point as shown above...
Giroux shot is also wrong, he's to the left of the dot in the circle. That's off of position by 15+ feet!
Chara slapper from the point is correct.
Pasternak wrister/snap is correct.
Second Pasternak is off. He's in the middle of the slot, just inside the circle to the right.
I'm going to stop right now, because I've already spent about 10 minutes on this post, but I think we should take these maps with a grain of salt. Their accuracy seems anecdotal at best.
Lol I didn't really see MacDonald's ridiculous backhand outlet pass turnover. This is like pick up hockey. I wonder if he said "OOPS MY BAD" afterwards.
Yes, Voracek was right at the circle, in fact he was inside it.
These maps are inaccurate.
Yes, Voracek was right at the circle, in fact he was inside it.
These maps are inaccurate.
renberg
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Shut out by a Bruins team that was coming off of the road, used its backup goalie and had half of its regular defense out for the game. That's just a sad performance by the Flyers. Unacceptable.
JojoTheWhale
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Yes, use them as a rough estimate and a big picture tool.
The data is provided by the league then culled into chart form. If the league's data is off by a few feet, and they often are, the charts will be. Please don't get me started on how utterly incompetently the NHL handles its information.
JXC
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LOL well done, as promised
David St Hubbins
Well, you're not as confused as he is.
They put in the work. And it really tied the room together.
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