Post-Game Talk: #10 | FLYERS 4 at Senators 5 | Thu. Oct. 26, 7:30 pm ET

[deadhead]

Weise was given a shot b/c he earned off his finish last season and his play in Montreal on the 3rd line.
And because Hextall wanted the kids to spend a couple months in the AHL before he promoted them (which ones?) to starting spots.
What I defended was that this was a reasonable move.
Weise was a better bet than Lehtera or Read for the 3rd line spot.
Raffl is a better fit than any of them on THIS 4th line. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, don't mess up what's working to try to fix what's not working.

Sometimes you have to grit your teeth and temporarily accept a less than optimal solution.
Hextall wants one or two of the kids to take the job, but he won't give it to them. Got to earn it on the ice.

And circumstance matters, Martel is screwed because this is one of the smallest teams in the NHL, last thing they want to do is add a guy who might be the smallest player in the NHL to this lineup. If they brought him up, it would probably b/c they're not happy with Leier, but I'm sure Hextall would prefer Lindblom, Vorobyev, NAK or MV to win a job. In a year or two, if Morin and a few other full sized guys make the lineup, they might feel more comfortable with Martel - but field Giroux, Weal, Leier, Konecny and Martel, and that's a really small forward group, with no big guys at all, Voracek and Couts are our biggest forwards.

Or why Hextall drafted Allison, Bunnaman, Ratcliffe, Strome. You want some balance between speed and size.
When Patrick, Vorobyev and Rubtsov grow up and fill out, we'll have good size down the middle, making life easier for smaller wings.

 

[Hurricane28]

Bill Daly defending the referee's call at the end of the game is like that scene in Airplane when Leslie Nielsen is explaining the situation to the passengers and as he keeps talking his nose keeps getting longer and longer

 

[Curufinwe]

Garbage like that really makes you wonder sometimes if following this league is worth the aggravation. The league puts protecting the refs' feelings and status over making the correct calls.

 

[Rebels57]

Garbage like that really makes you wonder sometimes if following this league is worth the aggravation. The league puts protecting the refs' feelings and status over making the correct calls.

It really is a disgrace how far the league bends over backwards to protect these guys.

How about showing some respect for the paying customers by communicating with them openly and honestly?

 

[Hurricane28]

The NBA, as much as I hate their officiating, comes out with reports on the last few minutes of the game and what calls were right and what were wrong. Don’t know if they do it anymore tho

 

[deadhead]

This could be the league's theme song:

 

[Foggy14]

The NBA, as much as I hate their officiating, comes out with reports on the last few minutes of the game and what calls were right and what were wrong. Don’t know if they do it anymore tho

According to Bill Daly, the NHL doesn't do this because they don't make any mistakes.

 

[Beef Invictus]

On top of all the other issues, Hakstol really needs to get over his budding love of Lehtera. There's really no excuse for him to be playing unless there's a ton of injuries and they're unable to call anyone up. The guy looks like Jagr out there, skating-wise, and his brain seems to be about the same speed.

I mean really, Weise is awful, but Lehtera makes him look like a great player by comparison. Same with Read.

The only time Lehtera should touch ice is during practice and when making himself a drink in the pressbox.

Remember when Lehtera was on the PP? How about that.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I feel pretty confident in saying Lehtera isn’t an NHL caliber player at this stage of his career.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

I feel pretty confident in saying Lehtera isn’t an NHL caliber player at this stage of his career.

great... so hes a lock to play 82 for Hakslogic then....


UGH...

 

[Striiker]

Remember when Lehtera was on the PP? How about that.

I think Hakstol does this stuff just to piss us off after people questioned MacDonald. This is his revenge.

 

[CodyTheHuman]

Lehtera is the worst player on the team. He may be the worst player in the NHL, period.

There's no way he should see the ice. No excuse for it.

Arizona still dresses Zac Rinaldo, Vegas dresses Bellemare, Calgary dresses Tanner Glass.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

The team that traded a third round pick for Rinaldo decided he sucked & didn’t belong in the NHL after awhile. Why anyway else signed him after that I have no idea.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Hagg had 16:31 TOI and was only on the ice for 1 Flyers shot on goal- the Konecny goal. Not sure if I should be impressed or concerned.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

This team is going to need a lot of patience. Right now it is all about developing young players, not necessary winning games. I am actually surprised how well they played so far. Team is .500 and scoring 3.4 gpg. Yes that game against Caps helped but whatever.. I just hope that head coach improves game plan and makes sure that forwards back check and play good D.

The thing is, you can still develop players and win. New Jersey is doing a great job of that right now and honestly, when I compare New Jersey's disaster with the Flyers roster, the Flyers have better talent, no doubt. It's all about coaching and in Philadelphia it's clear that the coaching is inadequate.

 

[deadhead]

Or maybe it's SSS?
Look at the Las Vegas save % - obviously unsustainable unless they have the 3 miracle goalies.
NJ has outscored the opposition by 34-28, yet they're 7-2. Wanna bet that continues?

Nice (19) #1-2017
Bratt (19) 6th-2016 - great steal, smurf
Butcher (23) 5th (Col) - 2013 (SFA) - doubt this is sustainable
Wood (22) 4th - 2013
Zacha (20) #6 - 2015
Severson (23) 2nd - 2012
Santini (22) 2nd - 2013
Noeseon (24) 1st (Ott) - 2011 (waivers)
Mueller (22) 1st (SJ) - 2013 (trade: & 5th rd pick for 2nd, 4th rd picks in 2017 draft)

A lot of these guys are second chance or late arrivals from 2011-2013.
They've hit on some long shots so far, but it's a long season.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

The thing is, you can still develop players and win. New Jersey is doing a great job of that right now and honestly, when I compare New Jersey's disaster with the Flyers roster, the Flyers have better talent, no doubt. It's all about coaching and in Philadelphia it's clear that the coaching is inadequate.

NJ also has better goaltending. If you can trust your guy to make a save your job is easier.

 

[Striiker]

NJ isn't going to keep this up.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

well of course not. winning 7 out of 9 all season is unsustainable for any team. But if they keep Schnieder healthy all season they will be better this year.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Arizona still dresses Zac Rinaldo, Vegas dresses Bellemare, Calgary dresses Tanner Glass.

I'd take all three over Lehtera. I mean that. I think he's out of his league.

 

[Rebels57]

I'd take all three over Lehtera. I mean that. I think he's out of his league.

Lehtera is far better than Rinaldo and Glass. Lets not get carried away.

 

[deadhead]

How soon people forget.

Rinaldo was wonderful to watch skate and hit, but things like puck handling, passing, shooting, and the common sense not to take stupid penalties eluded him.