Friedman: “The only rental who I think is getting a #1 is Kreider”

[Hockey Stick]

It's a safe bet to think only he'd get one, but who knows how desperate some teams could get

 

[WingsMJN2965]

You are very welcome babe

It's all good. Judging by the name you should remember the last German selected at 3rd.

I can settle with Stutzle. It's 4th that would suck.

 

[LeonDraisaitl]

It's all good. Judging by the name you should remember the last German selected at 3rd.

I can settle with Stutzle. It's 4th that would suck.

Oh yeah Tim Stutzle man if you guys can get him that would be amazing for the future. Zadina and stutzle is a good start but obviously Lafren would be way better

 

[themelkman]

Interesting Colorado wants a left shot D

 

[Chardo]

The Rangers have been playing pretty good hockey lately and really aren’t that far out of a wild card spot.

Think it would take a pretty good offer to get Kreider out of NY

They're 9 points out with 29 to go. They're done.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

This isn’t surprising. Less and less 1st rounders get traded each year. Add in the fact that this years rental crop is terrible and it makes sense.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I'm still not sure why the Rangers wouldn't just re-sign him, especially if they think they can compete sooner rather than later. He's almost certainly better than whoever they'll draft with the pick they'll get and next year will be his age 29 season so he's not exactly over the hill.

Looking at their cap situation it seems like they could absorb a new Kreider contract and while 2020-21 might be tight, they have ~$10mm in useless contracts off the books in 2021 when Smith and Staal become UFAs. With Lias Andersson looking like a total bust and Kakko and Chytil on the NHL roster the only forward prospect they seem to need a spot for in the near future is Kravstov, right?

Would love to see him shipped out of the division and preferably the conference as well and maybe I'm missing something but Kreider seems like a guy I'd want to keep.

For example if they traded Kreider to Tampa he would be a UFA at seasons end. What is the issue there

 

[Forge]

I hope he's wrong and Vatanen returns one

I'd like a first, but I'd settle for a second + okay prospect. I'd be okay if it were like a 2nd + Morozov from VGK or something.

 

[Chardo]

Clear sellers of ufas are LA, SJ, Ana, Det, Ott, NJ, Buf, NYR. Likely Mon, Min added to list soon.

so I agree that of all ufas on these teams Kreider would get the highest price. Now, if one of these teams is selling a player with a contract past this season that is a different matter.

every other team is still in the mix.

That's the thing. I just don't see teams willing to give up a 1st for the rentals out there this year. But someone will give a 1st for a player with term from one of those sellers, meaning one less team looking for a rental. Which further drives down the price for rentals.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

For example if they traded Kreider to Tampa he would be a UFA at seasons end. What is the issue there

Not sure what your point is here?

 

[viper0220]

No chance in hell Detroit gives the #1 for Kreider. NICE TRY, ELLIOTT!

Detroit pick is going to be high, why would they trade it.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Not sure what your point is here?

You said you would ship him out of conference. I am saying who gives a dam

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

You said you would ship him out of conference. I am saying who gives a dam

Most people who root for teams in the eastern conference, I would assume.

 

[Warden of the North]

Why would the Panthers move Hoffman for futures?

Like, they arent exactly locked in to a playoff spot

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

I still have a feeling Rangers might end up keeping Kreider tbh

I don't think so, they're still building towards something bigger and those assets are too valuable at this point.

I do however think it could be a rare scenario where the player signs back with the team that trades him in the summer. He sees the Rangers are taking steps forward and has already been part of it, plus i doubt there's anywhere else he'd want to live at this point.

Could be a handshake thing which both sides are comfortable doing. Kreider gets a chance to win, Rangers get assets back that help the team out, talk contract later.

 

[BondraTime]

Why would the Panthers move Hoffman for futures?

Like, they arent exactly locked in to a playoff spot

Because they will not be able to sign him as a UFA? I doubt teams trading for guys like Hoff at the deadline will be moving NHL contributing pieces for him

 

[BPD]

I'm still not sure why the Rangers wouldn't just re-sign him, especially if they think they can compete sooner rather than later. He's almost certainly better than whoever they'll draft with the pick they'll get and next year will be his age 29 season so he's not exactly over the hill.

Looking at their cap situation it seems like they could absorb a new Kreider contract and while 2020-21 might be tight, they have ~$10mm in useless contracts off the books in 2021 when Smith and Staal become UFAs. With Lias Andersson looking like a total bust and Kakko and Chytil on the NHL roster the only forward prospect they seem to need a spot for in the near future is Kravstov, right?

Would love to see him shipped out of the division and preferably the conference as well and maybe I'm missing something but Kreider seems like a guy I'd want to keep.

Why re-sign him now? The Rangers are almost assuredly out of the playoff race at this moment - that won't change. Flip him for assets, and let him know on the way out that we're happy to talk about a contract as soon as the window opens at the end of the season.

He's not getting 8 years and the Rangers aren't getting in the playoffs. That ends the list of reasons to sign him today instead of July 1 if we want to keep him.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Why re-sign him now? The Rangers are almost assuredly out of the playoff race at this moment - that won't change. Flip him for assets, and let him know on the way out that we're happy to talk about a contract as soon as the window opens at the end of the season.

He's not getting 8 years and the Rangers aren't getting in the playoffs. That ends the list of reasons to sign him today instead of July 1 if we want to keep him.

Pretty much.

Of course there's a possibility that the team that trades for him manages to convince Kreider to stay and sign with them, but it's not like the Rangers future depends on him.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

The Rangers have been playing pretty good hockey lately and really aren’t that far out of a wild card spot.

Think it would take a pretty good offer to get Kreider out of NY

theyre 7-8 in their last 15 and 9 points out.

He’s getting moved.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Why re-sign him now? The Rangers are almost assuredly out of the playoff race at this moment - that won't change. Flip him for assets, and let him know on the way out that we're happy to talk about a contract as soon as the window opens at the end of the season.

He's not getting 8 years and the Rangers aren't getting in the playoffs. That ends the list of reasons to sign him today instead of July 1 if we want to keep him.

Genuine question: when was the last time a player was traded at the deadline and then came back to the team that traded him the following offseason to sign a long-term deal?

 

[benjiv1]

I always thought with the number of picks Ottawa had, they would do a Pageau + Conditional 2nd, for a 1st.

If the team makes it to the Conference Finals, Ottawa gets the 1st outright, otherwise they give up one of their 2nd Rd Picks.

Easier pill for whoever is trading for him to swallow, and Ottawa still gets what they want in return.

 

[Warden of the North]

Because they will not be able to sign him as a UFA? I doubt teams trading for guys like Hoff at the deadline will be moving NHL contributing pieces for him

Isnt it worth holding on to him at the risk of missing the playoffs?

 

[BPD]

Genuine question: when was the last time a player was traded at the deadline and then came back to the team that traded him the following offseason to sign a long-term deal?

Vermette, I think.

It doesn't matter; if the Rangers are not going to make the playoffs and will not give him 8 years (which, both are true), then the move is to sell him and leave the door open.

 

[AslanRH]

Elliotte friedman is an idiot and a liar....Taylor Hall a rental already got a 1st.

Ok, let it all out. Bottling up that anger is really unhealthy.

We all know that, but why would Friedman be discussing what has already happened with Hall 2 months ago when talking about what is going to happen up to the deadline?

 

[Liferleafer]

Interesting that he says NY still trying to sign Kreider.