Boston Bruins ‘22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. VI

[quietbruinfan]

I coached for years and hated when people said it was a useless stat. I get it, you can get minused when you did nothing wrong. True for a shift, a game, 10 games perhaps, perhaps not, it depends. But as time increases, like any statistic, it becomes more accurate. If a player separates himself, one way the other, by a wide margin no one can say its meaningless.

I love this post. I lost my ability to say it the other way.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I coached for years and hated when people said it was a useless stat. I get it, you can get minused when you did nothing wrong. True for a shift, a game, 10 games perhaps, perhaps not, it depends. But as time increases, like any statistic, it becomes more accurate. If a player separates himself, one way the other, by a wide margin no one can say its meaningless.

Connor McDavid is a +4 this year. And he’s not on a bad team.

 

[22Brad Park]

of course they can.
we have a playoff spot pretty much locked in friggin december.
bergeron and krejci should not be playing back to backs.
i was surprised bergy played the panthers game.

Only thing worries me there is Canes passing them.Bruins to me need that home ice

 

[Roll 4 Lines]

He needs rest. But Bruins cant afford to rest him.... is the sad part

Why not? They could lose 10 in a row and it would not hurt them doodly squat.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Agree with Brad 22, they will need home ice if and when they play the Canes. Toronto can still pass them as well.

 

[Roll 4 Lines]

Agree with Brad 22, they will need home ice if and when they play the Canes. Toronto can still pass them as well.

I see those points, but maybe a well-rested and healthy Bergeron trumps both?

 

[Mione134]

Me holding onto Fabian in these trade proposals

 

[BruinDust]

Connor McDavid is a +4 this year. And he’s not on a bad team.

Also has nearly 50% of his points this year on the PP where +/- isn't a factor.

 

[quietbruinfan]

I see those points, but maybe a well-rested and healthy Bergeron trumps both?

I would like to think it does, but not if we finish behind Tor or Tampa. If we finish in Atlantic 2 no way we win the cup. We can still rest him here and there.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Also has nearly 50% of his points this year on the PP where +/- isn't a factor.

You’re helping me make my point. I appreciate it.

 

[NeelyDan]

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

How about...

To Blues: Smith, Wagner, Nosek, Lysell, Frederic, Keyser
To Bruins: O'Reilly(50 percent of salary), Acciari

* O'Reilly signs an extension for 7 years @ 7m per

Marchand Bergeron Debrusk
Zacha Krejci Pasta
Hall O'Reilly Coyle
Foligno Acciari Lauko

 

[Blowfish]

Connor McDavid is a +4 this year. And he’s not on a bad team.

Take a look at the top 30 +/- leaders. What you see are responsible players at both ends of the rink.

 

[BlackFrancis]

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Don't rightly understand how a parody account is nearly always unfunny. It must be a gift.

 

[Patdud]

When does the All star break start (roster "freeze" wise)? Can the bruins activate Jake tomorrow or would it have to be today?

 

[NeelyDan]

Don't rightly understand how a parody account is nearly always unfunny. It must be a gift.

I'm sorry I introduced such disappointment into your life.

 

[False Start]

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I spent far too much of my time deciphering who the heck Liles was, only to get trolled completely.

I accept my defeat.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Take a look at the top 30 +/- leaders. What you see are responsible players at both ends of the rink.

Who play for good teams.

Nick Suzuki is -16.
Aaron Ekblad -15.
Timo Meier -13.
Thomas Chabot -12.
Kris Letang -12.
Tomas Hertl -9.
Nazeem Kadri -8.
Vincent Trochek -7.

Cale Makar is a +7. Timothy Liljegren is a +22. Colin Miller is a +20.

Anze Kopitar is a +2. Michael Bunting is a +19.

Elias Lindholm is a +3. Jeff Skinner is a +15.

It's a pretty bad comparative stat.

 

[BlackFrancis]

I'm sorry I introduced such disappointment into your life.

Not you. But that dude's schtick makes a case for twitter having a gong.

 

[Baddkarma]

Toews and McCabe
For
Grizz and B's 1st + ?

Would be huge...

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Man I am having a day.

Who is Liles? Lysell?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Just passing thru to see what B fans think will be plans now that Horvat trade has hopefully kickstarted some market moves in coming weeks

I don't think Chicago is adding to take Reilly.

I think Bruins are adding for Chicago to take him.

Totally agree. That said, they’d need a LD if McCabe gets dealt and he’d be a decent stopgap for them.

If Hawks trade with Bruins Reilly is probably coming back for cap reasons. He would be likely buyout candidate for Hawks in offseason potentially or just one year stopgap on LD. If McCabe is traded then its likely Reilly would finish out his final year with Hawks as warm body vet

Hawks have 41M+ in cap room as of now for next year so I expect them to utilize some of that to gain assets for rebuild by taking on guys with 1 yr left on deal from cash strapped teams (A Zaitsev in Ottawa for example as possible target)

To Anh : Toewes 50% retained (5.25 million), Lysell + Reilly
To Boston: Toewes 50% retained (2.625) + Klingberg 50% retained (3.5)
To Chicago: Beecher +5th round pick

Why on earth would Hawks retain 50% on Toews and trade him to Boston for a 5th round pick?

Beecher looks to have no NHL upside at this point. It's very clear he was far from worth investing a 1st round pick on and is soon to be 22 years old with so little shown to justify the investment from Bruins at this point.

 

[BlackFrancis]

Just passing thru to see what B fans think will be plans now that Horvat trade has hopefully kickstarted some market moves in coming weeks




If Hawks trade with Bruins Reilly is probably coming back for cap reasons. He would be likely buyout candidate for Hawks in offseason potentially or just one year stopgap on LD. If McCabe is traded then its likely Reilly would finish out his final year with Hawks as warm body vet

Hawks have 41M+ in cap room as of now for next year so I expect them to utilize some of that to gain assets for rebuild by taking on guys with 1 yr left on deal from cash strapped teams (A Zaitsev in Ottawa for example as possible target)



Why on earth would Hawks retain 50% on Toews and trade him to Boston for a 5th round pick?

Beecher looks to have no NHL upside at this point. It's very clear he was far from worth investing a 1st round pick on and is soon to be 22 years old with so little shown to justify the investment from Bruins at this point.

How are Ducks walking away with actual prospect in this deal?

Look on the bright side. You guys aren't selling off your best prospect for Klingberg's corpse.

 

[SPV]

Not sure if this is under the radar, but I think replacing Gryz with a guy like Gavrikov from Columbus would be a good playoff move. Maybe use Gryz for assets for a bottom six upgrade.

Biggest thing this team needs is for the current second and third lines to produce against the top teams in the playoffs. A healthy Debrusk probably solves that by slotting everyone down

 

[vinnyboombatz]

Let me start by saying that I do not hate Grzelcyk. I do not hate any Bruins players.

But, he's been a minus in every post-season he's played in, for a combined -18. Of the Bruins top 6 defensemen, the only other career post-season negative is Forbort at -3.

Now I know +/- is not a perfect stat, but that's quite significant.

 

[KrugAvoy]

Would be huge...


Man I am having a day.

Who is Liles? Lysell?

It's a parody account. I think they mean John Michael Liles as a joke about how we like old players