Boston Bruins ‘22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. VI

[Gee Wally]

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[13Hockey]

Hopefully there is no trade Carlo suggestions in this thread

 

[GlenFeatherstone]

Trade everyone
Trade no one

EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!

 

[Blowfish]

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Watched Caddy the other night. Love that movie / scene.

 

[ON3M4N]

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OQ Wonka is one of my all-time favorites

 

[ap3lovr]

Difficult spot as we pass the midway part of the season. Do you really want to tweak a team that currently is operating at a level that puts them in the discussion for the greatest NHL team of all time? Tough decisions for Sweeney and co in the coming weeks.

That being said, I certainly think they could add some depth to the Baby B's down in Providence. Some journeymen that can be added in case we need that depth in the playoffs. Juolevi, Del Zotto, and Frk for example. These are the type of guys you can add as a depth player that can step on the NHL ice if 2-3 guys are down with injury. They take up $0 in cap space, and can report to directly to Providence. I'm not saying these guys specifically, but these types of journeyman players (like a Chris Wagner) that could be helpful if we run into injuries during the playoffs.

 

[veganbruin]

Add Bonino as a 4C, bring in a Tinordi or Brown level 7D (maybe Schenn?) and consider adding a top 9 scorer if one can be had at a reasonable price.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Thinking some here setting their TDL expectations too high. I don’t see a Horvat coming here in a trade, for many reasons.

On another note, Horvat & Schenn getting borderline extremely overrated here.

Horvat having a career year (unsustainable shooting %) but he’s been most seasons a 50ish point center. Good but not “Lysell + Lohrei + 1st” and an 8m+ contract this summer.

Was Schenn even a regular in the Tampa lineup during their Cup year? I recall him being brought in as an extra. I could be wrong. Good player as your 4th right side D but I don’t see him as a major need especially at the rumored cost of a 2nd round pick.

 

[BlackFrancis]

Thinking some here setting their TDL expectations too high. I don’t see a Horvat coming here in a trade, for many reasons.

On another note, Horvat & Schenn getting borderline extremely overrated here.

Horvat having a career year (unsustainable shooting %) but he’s been most seasons a 50ish point center. Good but not “Lysell + Lohrei + 1st” and an 8m+ contract this summer.

Was Schenn even a regular in the Tampa lineup during their Cup year? I recall him being brought in as an extra. I could be wrong. Good player as your 4th right side D but I don’t see him as a major need especially at the rumored cost of a 2nd round pick.

Schenn played less than 10 minutes a night in about half the Lightning's playoff games. They didn't see or use him as a regular.

 

[Blowfish]

Thinking some here setting their TDL expectations too high. I don’t see a Horvat coming here in a trade, for many reasons.

On another note, Horvat & Schenn getting borderline extremely overrated here.

Horvat having a career year (unsustainable shooting %) but he’s been most seasons a 50ish point center. Good but not “Lysell + Lohrei + 1st” and an 8m+ contract this summer.

Was Schenn even a regular in the Tampa lineup during their Cup year? I recall him being brought in as an extra. I could be wrong. Good player as your 4th right side D but I don’t see him as a major need especially at the rumored cost of a 2nd round pick.

Everyone should read this Horvat article...overrated I say no way.

We watched every one of Bo Horvat’s goals since 2021 to break down his evolution into an elite goal-scorer with the Canucks

We're now more than halfway through the 2022-23 NHL season, and Bo Hor...

canucksarmy.com

It shouldn’t be surprising, then, to hear that he overhauled his equipment over the summer. Thomas Drance of the Athletic recently wrote a story detailing how Horvat’s decision to use a lower flex on his stick has made his shot more unpredictable and has given it more “zip.” This is noticeable in goals like the one below, which is eerily similar to the one shown in the previous section.


Outside of his snapshot, Horvat has also added a new weapon to his arsenal: tips. Just take a look at the types of goals he’s scored this season:

Tips	10
Snapshot	4
Power play bumper	3
One-timer	3
Rebounds	3
Empty net	2
Deflections	2
Wrist shot	1
Backhander	1
Tap-in	1

In fact, Horvat leads the league in tip-in goals (fun fact: the player in second is Andrei Kuzmenko!), a skill that was rarely seen from him in the past. Many of the league’s best tip artists score at the net front, but Horvat has actually potted most of his goals further away from the crease and in the middle of the offensive zone.

 

[Patdud]

I usually am in the mindset of never buy a player whose out an outlier shooting percentage but he’s not a big point center, he is however a 30 goal scorer (31 last year and a year with 27, multiple 20+ goal years in shortened seasons. I understand that we’ve been spoiled by Bergy and Krejci making 7 or less for ever but a 28 year old 30 goal center for 8 a year, YES

 

[Oates2Neely]

Everyone should read this Horvat article...overrated I say no way.

We watched every one of Bo Horvat’s goals since 2021 to break down his evolution into an elite goal-scorer with the Canucks

We're now more than halfway through the 2022-23 NHL season, and Bo Hor...

canucksarmy.com

It shouldn’t be surprising, then, to hear that he overhauled his equipment over the summer. Thomas Drance of the Athletic recently wrote a story detailing how Horvat’s decision to use a lower flex on his stick has made his shot more unpredictable and has given it more “zip.” This is noticeable in goals like the one below, which is eerily similar to the one shown in the previous section.


Outside of his snapshot, Horvat has also added a new weapon to his arsenal: tips. Just take a look at the types of goals he’s scored this season:

Tips	10
Snapshot	4
Power play bumper	3
One-timer	3
Rebounds	3
Empty net	2
Deflections	2
Wrist shot	1
Backhander	1
Tap-in	1

In fact, Horvat leads the league in tip-in goals (fun fact: the player in second is Andrei Kuzmenko!), a skill that was rarely seen from him in the past. Many of the league’s best tip artists score at the net front, but Horvat has actually potted most of his goals further away from the crease and in the middle of the offensive zone.

It doesn’t matter to me how he scores his goals.

He’ll be 28 years old entering the playoffs. His career average is 26G 28A (54 points). His shooting % this season is 22.2% , his career shooting percentage is 14%.

You can believe it’s his new equipment, maybe it is? I choose to believe this is a classic case of career season in a contract year. Many more examples of this as opposed to a 28yr old player suddenly exploding and continuing that play. Look right there in Vancouver with JT Miller.

I’m not knocking Horvat, I just feel he’s a 50ish point center who is having a career season and is going to get PAID this summer & some team might regret it.

 

[sarge88]

Derek Brassard might be a good get for depth. He’s not flashy but he can play both wings, has a ton of experience and would be cheap, both financially and in regard to assets spent to get him.

I’m not saying he’s the difference between winning a cup or not, but he‘s a responsible player who won’t hurt you.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

There should be a rule where if you say you want to sign Horvat next year you have to show how you’re going to do it cap wise. Because it ain’t pretty.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

Hopefully there is no trade Carlo suggestions in this thread

 

[Patdud]

There should be a rule where if you say you want to sign Horvat next year you have to show how you’re going to do it cap wise. Because it ain’t pretty.

Coyle and Grizz

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Coyle and Grizz

Not enough

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Add Bonino as a 4C, bring in a Tinordi or Brown level 7D (maybe Schenn?) and consider adding a top 9 scorer if one can be had at a reasonable price.

Where does this top 9 scorer play on this team? I guess maybe if you saying insurance, but these guys are generally expensive both in cap and talent to acquire, and there is no Need, unless an injury happens

In terms of Schenn, I guess he is RHD depth, and maybe they could use one. But where does he fit? Could you get away with a Schenn/Forbert pairing? I guess no pucks are getting to the net, but on the other hand would the Bruins ever clear the zone.

 

[Blowfish]

It doesn’t matter to me how he scores his goals.

He’ll be 28 years old entering the playoffs. His career average is 26G 28A (54 points). His shooting % this season is 22.2% , his career shooting percentage is 14%.

You can believe it’s his new equipment, maybe it is? I choose to believe this is a classic case of career season in a contract year. Many more examples of this as opposed to a 28yr old player suddenly exploding and continuing that play. Look right there in Vancouver with JT Miller.

I’m not knocking Horvat, I just feel he’s a 50ish point center who is having a career season and is going to get PAID this summer & some team might regret it.

The guy has been consistently good and getting better in his prime. Read the article. He's a perfect replacement and certainly isn't overrated.

 

[dugg133]

Where does this top 9 scorer play on this team? I guess maybe if you saying insurance, but these guys are generally expensive both in cap and talent to acquire, and there is no Need, unless an injury happens

In terms of Schenn, I guess he is RHD depth, and maybe they could use one. But where does he fit? Could you get away with a Schenn/Forbert pairing? I guess no pucks are getting to the net, but on the other hand would the Bruins ever clear the zone.

Could you get away with a Schenn/Forbort pairing?

No, the answer is no. That would be terrible.

 

[Shroud of Orrin]

Someone is going to force there way here for this run. How could anyone chasing a cup not want to be here? I'm not sure which one, but it will be impactful. Phone calls must be flying. It will likely sting a lot more than Hall, but will be worth it.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

What do we think Swayman's trade value would be to other teams?

 

[Oates2Neely]

The guy has been consistently good and getting better in his prime. Read the article. He's a perfect replacement and certainly isn't overrated.

Great replacement at 2C but not at 8m+. Plus cap just doesn’t work here next season.

I’m not reading an article hyping up Horvat by “Canucks Army”. Thanks

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Could you get away with a Schenn/Forbort pairing?

No, the answer is no. That would be terrible.

So basically I don't see how Schenn makes sense. You'd have to put gryz with him

 

[JoeIsAStud]

What do we think Swayman's trade value would be to other teams?

Not nearly enough to let him go. for reasons that baffle me, goaltenders have the least trade value of any position in the sport. And other teams make look as Sway as being a product of Boston system. At best you are likely looking at value similar to a mid first round pick.

And honestly, no way I am trading Sway. Right now i think we are looking at a bit of a Rask/Thomas situation from 2010/11. Rask was the opening night starter, he got off to slow start. Thomas got to hot start, and took over starting job for year

I like having 2 goalies that right now I'd be 100% confident starting in a playoff game, and they have great personal and team chemistry