Byron Bitz
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Who was better? consider all aspects of hockey, be careful not to be baseless when talking about leadership. I am going to say yzerman.
lol stevie y had 155 pts one year, thats just ridiculous, no one will ever do that again
Top 10 finishes in points for reference sake
Sakic - 2, 3, 3, 5, 6, 6, 7 9, 10
Yzerman - 3, 3, 4, 7, 10
Sakic - 3x 1st AS
Yzerman - 1x 1st AS
Sakic - Hart, Pearson, Smythe
Yzerman - Pearson, Smythe,
Now, it looks like Sakic comes on top, but Yzerman did have to deal with a prime Gretzky and Lemieux. Though Sakic did have to compete with a prime Jagr and Forsberg.
lol stevie y had 155 pts one year, thats just ridiculous, no one will ever do that again
http://www.hockey-reference.com/pla...at=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=points_per_game
Just figured I'd put this in there. I didn't do it for Sakic but it wouldn't surprise me if there were similar results for him at some point.
The gap between Yzerman and the next closest player over that time period is pretty significant. Selanne and Lindros don't count as they only have something like 130 games each and from there it goes to Lafontaine.
1. Lemieux as expected puts up a mind boggling average of 180 points per season
2. Gretz averages 1.9 or 152 points a season.
3. Yzerman's 1.55 translates to 124 points per game over that time period.
4. Lafontaine (in close to 100 less games) is next averaging at 1.37 or 109 point average.
5. Adam Oates is right there with Lafontaine at 1.37 and the 109 point average. He's probably closest to Yzerman as he plays almost the same number of games but has 100 less points.
Even then, how can you do it? I mean seriously how do you balance out the linemates?I remember in the late 80's in some games yzerman would be centering two different lines. Stat analysis can tell you who to look at but you really need to eyeball test these comparisons, until we get ice time numbers with any kind of reliability.