Confirmed Signing with Link: [WSH] D Rasmus Sandin extension with the Capitals (5 years, $4.6M AAV)

[hamzarocks]

What a shortsighted trade by Dubas

Not really

Sandin isnt better than Rielly and likely wont ever be

He isnt better than McCabe right now either who is #4D

Sandin would have had to wait until 2025-2026 to get a spot on second pairing LHD.

We got a 1st back and drafted Cowan with that who looks really good.

This was a move made based on dubas predicting Sandins value goes down the longer hes a leaf.

Dermott if we dealt after 2019 would have gotten a mid 2nd back but we held on for too long, he got injured, lost his upsdie as he continued to play 3LD and similar styled game

This was a solid move by Dubas at the time which looks stronger due to Cowan being taken (though any of the three-fpur guys around Cowans pick would look great right now)

Sandin isnt a top 4D on a contending team. He is a 4/5D similar to Lilijgren

 

[TheDoldrums]

Caps got a good piece with Sandin for D rental the Leafs didn't re-sign.

Uh, the main piece the Leafs got back was a 1st rounder

 

[SherVaughn30]

I kinda hope he'd take a jump in point production, but he seems like he's more likely to go the Orlov route. That, to me, makes this deal that'll range from either a good deal to a steal pretty quick.

You have to remember in Lavi's system last season, all Caps D-men were scoring more. In Carbery's system, the D aren't as aggressive hence their lower point production.

 

[trick9]

A bit steep for what he is right now but long-term this should be a pretty good deal. His role is going to increase offensively as Carlson keeps getting older.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Nah, Leafs D is not good enough. They shouldn't have traded him in the first place. Caps got a good piece with Sandin for D rental the Leafs didn't re-sign.

Don't necessarily think it was the right move, but this is revisionist. Leafs got their best prospect in Cowan in that deal as well, Gustafsson was the throw in

 

[The Podium]

Nah, Leafs D is not good enough. They shouldn't have traded him in the first place. Caps got a good piece with Sandin for D rental the Leafs didn't re-sign.

The Leafs got the highest point per game player in the OHL in return

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

I can't even remember what the trade was ( Toronto sent 2018 first-round pick Rasmus Sandin to the Capitals in exchange for veteran defenseman Erik Gustafsson and the Boston Bruins’ 2023 first-round pick.)

Glad he's doing well. Some people want to see their traded draft picks bust when they're moved, I'm not like that.

Was it a bad trade for the Leafs? Well, pretty sure that Boston pick is now Easton Cowen...........so time will tell.

Good trade from the Caps end though. Congrats!

 

[hockeykicker]

The Leafs got the highest point per game player in the OHL in return

That's not how this works. They didn't get that player in return. They got a pick

 

[93gilmour93]

What a shortsighted trade by Dubas

Lets see how Easton Cowan pans out first....

 

[The Podium]

That's not how this works. They didn't get that player in return. They got a pick

Which they used to draft Cowan? From the Leafs perspective it was a good deal. Not taking away from what he’s been as a Capital.

 

[GaboriklessWild]

Washington loves to overpay average players

 

[trick9]

Which they used to draft Cowan? From the Leafs perspective it was a good deal. Not taking away from what he’s been as a Capital.

Feels like a win-win trade for me.

I don't mind losing that late 1st rounder for a young NHL'er. Sandin's path was blocked in Toronto so it seemed like a good move for them too with that return.

 

[hullsy47]

He’s a solid mobile Dman.
That’s good value. He may seem vanilla most games, but he’s a good 3/4D- pair with someone he works well with, and you’ll forget about him back there. (For the good)

 

[Face Of Bear]

Sandin's best games area ahead of him still. Contract will age well imo.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Good for Rasmus getting a payday

 

[Darz]

The Leafs got the highest point per game player in the OHL in return

They got Quentin Musty for him???

Musty - 1.7727 pts per game
Cowan - 1.7659 pts per game

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

That's not how this works. They didn't get that player in return. They got a pick

Huh. After 15 years of "they traded Seguin and Hamilton" we get "that's not how this works".

 

[AvroArrow]

The fact that he was able to instantly carry a load with Washington suggests he was never used properly in Toronto. He handles 21-22 minutes a game now regularly. But couldn't be trusted with 17 or 18 with the Leafs.

Hope he does well. Seems like a great contract for him, and a fair deal for WSH.

I still don't understand why we never gave him a real shot, I'm happy with what we got in return for him but he definitely wasn't utilized properly. His skating wasn't the greatest but the guy hits like a truck, good passer, great shot and he plays with edge. Happy for Sandman likable player, hopefully he works out in Washington.

 

[Icelevel]

Insanity

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

They got Quentin Musty for him???

Musty - 1.7727 pts per game
Cowan - 1.7659 pts per game

Musty is definitely one ten thousandth better.

 

[Mitch nylander]

If it wasn't for Wes Clarke, this would have been a real bad move. Good for Rasmus

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

I still don't understand why we never gave him a real shot, I'm happy with what we got in return for him but he definitely wasn't utilized properly. His skating wasn't the greatest but the guy hits like a truck, good passer, great shot and he plays with edge. Happy for Sandman likable player, hopefully he works out in Washington.

Sandin was a move I wasn't a fan of but also not the end of the world.

 

[kevsh]

suggests he was never used properly in Toronto.

He was playing behind Reilly and Muzzin, and became 4th on the left side when they later acquired McCabe. Dubas did him a solid and sent him somewhere where he'd be higher on the depth chart.

 

[Joel Ward]

Seems like the kind of deal that is a tad rich now but with continued player development and salary cap inflation could be a steal in years 2/3-5.

IIRC he had a hot start offensively last year with Carlson out and top PP minutes available. Irregardless, his defensive development this season has been promising which was what prevented him from getting more minutes in Toronto.

 

[um]

Not really

Sandin isnt better than Rielly and likely wont ever be

He isnt better than McCabe right now either who is #4D

Sandin would have had to wait until 2025-2026 to get a spot on second pairing LHD.

We got a 1st back and drafted Cowan with that who looks really good.

This was a move made based on dubas predicting Sandins value goes down the longer hes a leaf.

Dermott if we dealt after 2019 would have gotten a mid 2nd back but we held on for too long, he got injured, lost his upsdie as he continued to play 3LD and similar styled game

This was a solid move by Dubas at the time which looks stronger due to Cowan being taken (though any of the three-fpur guys around Cowans pick would look great right now)

Sandin isnt a top 4D on a contending team. He is a 4/5D similar to Lilijgren

You are allowed to have good players on your third pairing.

Instead the Leafs played Giordano for sub 10 minutes in playoff games last year.

It reminds me of when the Caps shipped out Siegenthaler so Chara could get more ice time. Just extremely short sighted.