With the 30th overall pick the New Jersey Devils have selected, John Quenneville!

[Phil2]

I mean what type of team do you think is being built here? Lou isn't trying to make a Washington or Pitt type team. His current model is more along the lines of LA and Boston with some old school Devil's flair. Strong in net, strong blue line (that can skate) and strong complete forwards. They can forecheck, cycle, and make plays and score.

Lou wants more Zach's, Zajacs, and Henriques. Not so much Kovy's.

and that's what he's been trying to do

Get Schneider
Santini,Merill,Burlon,Gelinas,Larsson....

And now it's up for the forwards, the D is truly set for the future, Devils only true '' future core players'' are Zajac/Henrique right now

Jagr,Elias,Zubrus,Ryder,Brunner, Ruutu, Clowe....

 

[Oneiro]

I guess the feeling is that, for the most part, you will only get playoff-worthy top-end offensive skill at the top half of the draft.

And I agree with that.

To be honest, what this team truly does need is Connor McDavid. Someone who is great enough to play any way you want to play.

 

[Phil2]

Drafting defensemen and two-way forwards (which are just as important to winning games as flashy offensive forwards) is what this organization is good at. Do people expect them to suddenly reinvent themselves?

I believe the structure that was the Devils way, always has been STRONG G/DEF/2way players, then surround that with SKILLED players


but that might take a few years for that to happened,but the G/DEF is set for future years to come though.

 

[Phil2]

I guess the feeling is that, for the most part, you will only get playoff-worthy top-end offensive skill at the top half of the draft.

And I agree with that.

To be honest, what this team truly does need is Connor McDavid. Someone who is great enough to play any way you want to play.

That'd require the Devils to be the worst team in the NHL, and I don't believe that's the way to do it, but looking at our forwards prospects right now, IDK' How we're going to be in 2-3years from now.

Losing Parise/Kovy hurts so much,,,


but then, I look at the way the Oilers have drafted, and man, sometimes I ponder... How can you have that much stocked talent and still fail ?

Well, skilled players, NO D/NO G, and that's what happens(MESS)

 

[Devils Army]

I was pretty sold on barbeshev. He's not really the typical russian in a sense that he's been playing in North America for a few years now, he back checks hard, throws his body around and has a sweet pair of hands.

Dont know how people weren't talking about him at all, he was supposed to go around 15 and drops to 30, many people said go BPA and draft for value not for need, he fit our needs and was the BPA, i dont know how Lou and Conte didn't realize that

 

[Phil2]

Dont know how people weren't talking about him at all, he was supposed to go around 15 and drops to 30, many people said go BPA and draft for value not for need, he fit our needs and was the BPA, i dont know how Lou and Conte didn't realize that

Perhaps as fans, we see what we need now, whereas, they see for the long haul.


and sometimes, it's better to take a step back, analyze our situation right now, and realize it might take 2-3 drafts to repelnish our forwards(Seeing that most of what's on the Devils roster now are 30+)

 

[MadDevil]

Being a two-way forward also doesn't mean you can't have skill. The kid we just drafted says he models his game after Kopitar, who is one of the best two-way centers in the league. I don't expect Quenneville to be the next Kopitar, but there's nothing wrong with drafting strong two-way players. If this kid turns into a top 9 forward with some versatility, I'd say it was a pretty good pick for 30th overall in a rather weak draft.

 

[Phil2]

Being a two-way forward also doesn't mean you can't have skill. The kid we just drafted says he models his game after Kopitar, who is one of the best two-way centers in the league. I don't expect Quenneville to be the next Kopitar, but there's nothing wrong with drafting strong two-way players. If this kid turns into a top 9 forward with some versatility, I'd say it was a pretty good pick for 30th overall in a rather weak draft.

This.

This draft was meant for forwards(Well the 1st round)

 

[JackHughes86]

i hope can grab some good players in the later rounds

 

[Bcap88]

Dont know how people weren't talking about him at all, he was supposed to go around 15 and drops to 30, many people said go BPA and draft for value not for need, he fit our needs and was the BPA, i dont know how Lou and Conte didn't realize that

http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2014/2/20/5415050/2014-nhl-draft-profile-ivan-barbashev.

Maybe the Russian factor? Idk seems the complete opposite of the other Russians

 

[Phil2]

i hope can grab some good players in the later rounds

We'll see.

% of sucess decreases through later rounds(of players making to the NHL, but that's obvious haha)


Hoping that Lou/Conte goes F all the way. At best grab a goalie.

We're already stocked at D,

 

[Phil2]

http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2014/2/20/5415050/2014-nhl-draft-profile-ivan-barbashev.

Maybe the Russian factor? Idk seems the complete opposite of the other Russians

all about the KHL, but teams are still afraid that the Russians might make the jump to the KHL if things don't go their way(Simple, you're a 1st round pick, you're known, you don't like it here(NHL)? You'll get paid 10x what you'll make for your rookie contract/AHL contract)


and I'm saying it's not on all the Russians, but it's so easy to be tempted to change NHL to the KHL in certain situations

 

[Devils Army]

all about the KHL, but teams are still afraid that the Russians might make the jump to the KHL if things don't go their way(Simple, you're a 1st round pick, you're known, you don't like it here(NHL)? You'll get paid 10x what you'll make for your rookie contract/AHL contract)


and I'm saying it's not on all the Russians, but it's so easy to be tempted to change NHL to the KHL in certain situations

I know, but he seems differnet then "normal" russian type players, he is classified as a leader and the fact that he is already over here in NA is a good sign, i highly doubt he would go to the KHL

 

[glenwo2]

Being a two-way forward also doesn't mean you can't have skill. The kid we just drafted says he models his game after Kopitar, who is one of the best two-way centers in the league. I don't expect Quenneville to be the next Kopitar, but there's nothing wrong with drafting strong two-way players. If this kid turns into a top 9 forward with some versatility, I'd say it was a pretty good pick for 30th overall in a rather weak draft.

No, he's not going to be the next Kopitar but he's going to be the next Dave Bolland(or whatever that guy's name is).

 

[Phil2]

I know, but he seems differnet then "normal" russian type players, he is classified as a leader and the fact that he is already over here in NA is a good sign, i highly doubt he would go to the KHL

yeah but that's what happens nowadays

Galchenyuk had some ''bad rep'' because people(in MTL...media... well they're always terrible,,, their media but w/e) because he had a Russian name(when he's an USA citizen, never played for Russia lol)


and because of the whole Kovy thing(established NHL players suddenly retiring from the NHL to return to their home country'')

Well, it's sort of scaring away people


I guess from Lou's own experience, he didn't want to take another gamble, it's not the time to take a gamble when you're that l l fringe on forwards prospects.

 

[Bcap88]

all about the KHL, but teams are still afraid that the Russians might make the jump to the KHL if things don't go their way(Simple, you're a 1st round pick, you're known, you don't like it here(NHL)? You'll get paid 10x what you'll make for your rookie contract/AHL contract)


and I'm saying it's not on all the Russians, but it's so easy to be tempted to change NHL to the KHL in certain situations

He was drafted by the KHL, He also turned it down to come to north america

 

[Phil2]

No, he's not going to be the next Kopitar but he's going to be the next Dave Bolland(or whatever that guy's name is).

I will always remember watching the 2011 draft with my friends(who are Devils fans near MTL haha) and pouding beers and watching Larsson being drafted by the Devils(Well, we were high-fiving ) and then saw on RDS(Sister station of TSN(in french) comparable to Sami Salo


4th overall, to Salo

we were like... Wtf? haha

 

[Phil2]

He was drafted by the KHL, He also turned it down to come to north america

I understand that, but when you're an organization that's really slim on forwards prospects, it's better to draft some guys who you might be sure that will turn-out into top 9 forwards than a gamble.

And, it's better(from seeing our prospect pool) to take a 2way forward than a skilled player right now

You build something from scratch, and perhaps it might become Rome.

 

[Status Quo*]

What do you guys think would happen if DD and Conte were put into a locked room together that had no windows?

 

[Emperoreddy]

What do you guys think would happen if DD and Conte were put into a locked room together that had no windows?

Apparently they would agree that Quenneville was a good pick for us.

 

[glenwo2]

What do you guys think would happen if DD and Conte were put into a locked room together that had no windows?

They would play scrabble?

 

[Phil2]

Apparently they would agree that Quenneville was a good pick for us.

why not?

two way center forward in the future?


I mean, Devils could had taken a gamble as I said earlier, but where would that lead us? There's people, Scouts, GM that does their job to improve this team long term

Seeing from Lou's perspective, he's trying to make this team competitive, even when it lacks forwards prospects and him/Conte knows about it and therefore wait for the long haul.

Edit: I just realized that DD is DevilsDominion haha, -.-


As fans, we are right to give opinions, but I find it absolutly disgusting to say '' That's a bad draft pick'' when I bet there's 0 people off this forum who watched closely Quenneville as some Devs scouts did

We as fans are right to judge, we judge for the short haul, we want sucess,(and that's right, we're used to it..) but in these times, we should trust the drafting team/scouts/LOU

 

[MadDevil]

No, he's not going to be the next Kopitar but he's going to be the next Dave Bolland(or whatever that guy's name is).

Bolland is a 15 goal, 35-40 point center when he can stay healthy. If we could get that, with solid two-way play out of Quenneville I'd consider that a pretty solid pick at 30th overall. He may not be the highly skilled scorer we all want, but given our recent track record of developing "skilled" forwards, I'd rather get a middle six forward with average offensive ability than another Bergfors or Tedenby (although Bergfors actually showed some finishing ability).

 

[NJDevs26]

LA was 26th in Goals for to our 27th. Kopitar their best player only had two more points then Jagr on the season. Kings won because they were tough as nails and opportunistic as hell, and they didn't really play strong defensive teams.

Kings have a TON of strengths...guys that can score really isn't one of them.

Except their offense spiked after they acquired Gaborik and promoted a couple of their younger players and they led the world in goals during the playoffs.

 

[tmg]

A lot of articles (and now, Wikipedia) are citing John Quenneville as being Joel Quennevillle's second cousin.

These articles are seemingly written by people who don't know the definitions of first and second cousins.

John's great-grandfather is Joel's grandfather. That makes them First Cousins Once Removed. Joel's KIDS are John's second cousins.