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now that he can hit the net, watch out!
Player Discussion: Winnipeg Jets Defense
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CanMerc
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Nah… biggest problem with Schmidt is everything
I hated that trade from day one and still do.
Too much salary, taking up space better filled with either more talented player or younger player.
For me, this is Chevys worst move as GM
Some love for JMo and DeMo...
Let’s start with the Jets. Winnipeg’s been a game team across the board this year, but the results at the top of the lineup are truly impressive. The Morrissey and DeMelo pairing – they play primarily with the Mark Scheifele line – have cooked teams at even-strength, out-scoring their opponents by 19-goals while carrying about 53 per cent of the expected goal share. That’s playoff-calibre production from your top-pairing, period. B
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Let’s start with the Jets. Winnipeg’s been a game team across the board this year, but the results at the top of the lineup are truly impressive. The Morrissey and DeMelo pairing – they play primarily with the Mark Scheifele line – have cooked teams at even-strength, out-scoring their opponents by 19-goals while carrying about 53 per cent of the expected goal share. That’s playoff-calibre production from your top-pairing, period. B
Travis Yost: Do Canadian teams have the two best pairings in hockey? | TSN
If we look at how the Jets and Canucks have played with these top-pairs on the ice versus without, it's a true night-and-day scenario. Travis Yost has more on the dominance of Quinn Hughes and Filip Hronek in Vancouver, as well as Josh Morrissey and Dylan DeMelo in Winnipeg.
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Buffdog
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Just realized yesterday...
Jomo: 1st round pick
Samberg: 2nd round pick
Demelo: 6th round pick
Schmidt: undrafted
Dillon: undrafted
Pionk: undrafted
The results this season from a group with this kind of pedigree is astonishing
Jomo: 1st round pick
Samberg: 2nd round pick
Demelo: 6th round pick
Schmidt: undrafted
Dillon: undrafted
Pionk: undrafted
The results this season from a group with this kind of pedigree is astonishing
I'm really loving our d corps makeup this year, including our depth.
I'm not spending a ton to do anything to this d, especially getting a lhd like Chychrun.
I would love to see Capo up but I don't think that's likely unless we have some injuries
I'm not spending a ton to do anything to this d, especially getting a lhd like Chychrun.
I would love to see Capo up but I don't think that's likely unless we have some injuries
Ya really, one thing I'll say though is the forwards actually coming back and playing defense has really helped our defense.
Buffdog
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I'll add to my previous post about draft pedigree...
Dillon 6'4 225
Samberg 6'4 216
Demelo 6'1 195
Jomo 195
Schmidt 6'0 192
Pionk 6'0 190
So while not "small", our D isn't huge either... but they all skate well.
A couple of summers ago there was a "chevy has no plan" sentiment floating around here... with the focus on the fact that he wasn't going out to replace or add players in order to build a contender in a specific way
Instead, it almost looks like the org sat down and said "this is what we have, and this is what we can realistically go get... how can we win with THIS?"
We saw Vegas win with a deep forward group, strong D and an "meh" goalie.. has anyone ever won with a deep forward group, strong goalie and "meh" (on paper) d corps? Maybe that's the path Chevy took... I guess we'll see if it was a good one to blaze
Dillon 6'4 225
Samberg 6'4 216
Demelo 6'1 195
Jomo 195
Schmidt 6'0 192
Pionk 6'0 190
So while not "small", our D isn't huge either... but they all skate well.
A couple of summers ago there was a "chevy has no plan" sentiment floating around here... with the focus on the fact that he wasn't going out to replace or add players in order to build a contender in a specific way
Instead, it almost looks like the org sat down and said "this is what we have, and this is what we can realistically go get... how can we win with THIS?"
We saw Vegas win with a deep forward group, strong D and an "meh" goalie.. has anyone ever won with a deep forward group, strong goalie and "meh" (on paper) d corps? Maybe that's the path Chevy took... I guess we'll see if it was a good one to blaze
Buffdog
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Yeah, I thought of them too.. Jomo would be our Letang
I think the biggest difference is that their F group was more top heavy than ours. It could be argued that at the time they won the cup, Crosby and Malkin were the top two players on the planet
I mentionned "deep forward group" because we don't have that kind of superstar up front, let alone two of them. It's more of a committee
They were able to have Kessel on the third line those teams. So they dis have quality forward depth as well.
Tom ServoMST3K
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Don't forget Winkler's own Eric Fehr!
My photo of that cup celebration was on the front page of the Sun.
WolfgangPuck
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Grateful of our current D. Shudder when remembering how awful playing Poolman, Beaulieu and the all the rotating waiver defenseman we picked up
Calling this d group meh the way they've been playing is a huge insult
Evgeny Oliker
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Yesterday was an off day, hopefully we'll hear something today
Remember when Mark Stuart was in the top 4, for years? haha
JMo getting some props, he and DD ranking 3rd in goal differential leaguewide. Wonder how good he'd be playing with Samberg?
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These results are even more impressive when you factor in that Morrissey has less help than his peers. Dylan DeMelo is a smart, underrated defenseman but he’s not a true top-pair caliber partner for Morrissey.
Which top pairs have been the best and worst this NHL season?
We identify the NHL teams with top pairs that are dominating and the ones significantly trailing the competition.
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Josh Morrissey is proving that last year’s breakout as a bona fide No. 1 defenseman was no fluke [he's] controlling 55 percent of scoring chances and is nearly impossible to score on, with a 1.55 goals-against-per-hour rate.These results are even more impressive when you factor in that Morrissey has less help than his peers. Dylan DeMelo is a smart, underrated defenseman but he’s not a true top-pair caliber partner for Morrissey.
trebendan
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Jets D for 24-25, if no UFA’s sign:
Morrisey - Pionk
Samberg - Schmidt
Stanley - Heinola
Capobianco
Hope they can sign a UFA or 2.
Morrisey - Pionk
Samberg - Schmidt
Stanley - Heinola
Capobianco
Hope they can sign a UFA or 2.
CorgisPer60
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There are 3 people I would love to no longer see on the back end, and unfortunately all still have contracts. Bring back DeMelo, trade off either Schmidt or Pionk, and sign Chris Tanev. >_>
My guess is Schmidt is bought out. We need to retain one of DeMelo or Dillion.
What I'd like to see:
JoMo upgrade
Snerg Pionk
Heinola DeMelo
Ossific
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I have no issue with DeMelo on the 1st pair, he is a +70 as a Winnipeg Jet and has been a beauty shutdown guy.
Huffer
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Ideally it would be amazing to have another true top pair RHD to move some guys down (My kingdom for prime Buff right now).
Considering the cost and likely availability of that player, I wonder if you can re-sign Demelo (to 3 or 4 years) as he's been good with JoMo, and find an "upgrade" on the 3rd RHD spot over Schmidt? And ideally, if we're not able to re-sign Dillon, hopefully that player could bring some physicality that would be lost with losing Dillon?
I really do think that Salo could be on the Jets in 2025 so we could see maybe:
2024
JoMo DeMelo
Snerg Pionk
Heinola (Physical upgrade over Schmidt)
Stanley Schmidt
2025
JoMo DeMelo
Snerg (2024 upgrade good enough to play here until Salo can?)
Heinola Salo
Stanley
Pretty small overall unless the upgrade is above average.
Losing both Demelo and Dillon in the off-season would be devastating and would leave the Jets with a defense akin to the 2019-20 team.
Where's Stanley? Sitting in the pressbox?
My guess is he's moved out as a favor to him if he's going to be in the pb.
