Dr Jan Itor
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True under previous regimes. But Boudreau had is in the top 5 or top 3 or whatever.
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True under previous regimes. But Boudreau had is in the top 5 or top 3 or whatever.
I'm also of the belief that players should be able to play either wing if they are good enough. Handedness be damned.
And players "losing offense" is an excuse. Pominville wasn't doing what he was paid for and was moved because of it.
And players "losing offense" is an excuse. Pominville wasn't doing what he was paid for and was moved because of it.
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What an odd contract. My first reaction is a little too much money, and a year too long. I hope GMCF/BB see something that I haven't.
HollaHaula
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I'm not a fan of the contract. I have a feeling it will be an annoyance that will need to be moved later.
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If he becomes a mainstay as the 3rd line LW and can mentor and protect JEE and maybe Kunin, this could be ok, but this is going to be an anchor if he gets surpassed and sits on the 4th line for the next 4 years.
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How many of those complaining have actually seen him play more than a couple games?
I always love how fans constantly think they know more than those who work for the damn teams.
I always love how fans constantly think they know more than those who work for the damn teams.
DANOZ28
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mgmt must see something i dont. massive overpayment for a 4th liner. i'd rather have scanny on D at 4 mill than foligno at almost 3.
nickschultzfan
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That is just as much of a statement of other players as Foligno. Things happen. JEE and Kunin might need further development. Ennis might never get off the 4th line. Parise's back might start becoming more and more of a problem. Somebody else will probably always be hurt.
Koivu and Zucker might price themselves out of a roster spot. Coyle might become trade bait. Etc.
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Couldn't agree more. I mean I'm not in love with the contract, but it has been well documented that Fletcher and Company love this kids game and feel he is a valuable piece added to this team. But that's the world we live in today, grossly overreacting to everything without having seen the kid play.
DANOZ28
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All the time.
Have you never heard the phrase "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics"?
Stats NEVER tell a complete story.
HollaHaula
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I've watched a few Buffalo games and Marcus Foligno really never stood out. Always known to me as Nick Foligno's less talented younger brother. His stats are 4th line material even though he got quite a bit of ice time in Buffalo (likely because of how atrocious the team was/is). Even Buffalo fans are saying he's overpaid by $500k and his contract is too long.
However, one interesting observation is that his +/- isn't actually that bad given how poor of a team Buffalo has been. Only a -5 on the season during the deliberate tank year of 2014-2015. Maybe, he'll turn into another Kyle Brodziak......oh god, pls no
However, one interesting observation is that his +/- isn't actually that bad given how poor of a team Buffalo has been. Only a -5 on the season during the deliberate tank year of 2014-2015. Maybe, he'll turn into another Kyle Brodziak......oh god, pls no
Completely agree. Not only that, if you take a look at his cap comparables he's not nearly as overpaid as people seem to want to think. This is about the going rate for someone in his situation when it buys 3 UFA years. This is going to pan out similar to Hanzal. People who only look at points will ask why, but some players bring more than just points.
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His hit and term is inline with comparable. Comparables like Clutterbuck, and Martin who's contracts are just as bad and were called as such when they signed. The reaction around here to Clutterbuck's latest deal was laughing at the Islanders.
I'm not going to turn hypocrite when our GM does the exact same thing. Some GMs, even a lot of them, over value these type of extremely replaceable players. That doesn't mean I have to sugar coat my disdain for the deal when our's does it (for the 5th or 6th time).
I ripped those other contracts, i'm sure as hell going to rip this one.
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This shouldn't be news, but teams and GMs make a lot of friggen mistakes. Fletcher's had enough buyouts over the years to verify that.
Some of them are very predictable and identifiable the moment they happen, especially given we've had enough years to know how he works.. Matt Cooke to a 3 year at 35 years old? Mistake the moment it happened. Picking up Jarret Stoll off waivers? Easily identifiable mistake.
The moment he traded for Foligno this mistake was predictable, now that we know the terms it's identifiable. In 2 or 3 years when we need an extra million or two of capspace while Foligno's been passed up by Kunin, Greenway and JEE making 3 million on the 4th line, we're going to be *****ing about this contract non stop.
Just like people were with Brodziak, who was twice as useful as Foligno.
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Garbage contract. Winnik is just as good and can't even get a deal. Why Fletcher even wanted this guy is beyond me. We are going to regret this when we have to sign kids in the future. Why does he overpay 4th liners? You fill that role with prospects and PTOs not 4 year deals.
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