Who slows down Marchand, Bergeron & Pastrnak in the Playoffs?
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Why exactly? I'm pretty sure if you started a poll asking which line people would rather have in the PLAYOFFS Boston would win that poll quite easily. That's not a knock on Tampa cause they're clearly the best team in the league, but that Boston trio is just a possession nightmare for other teams which suits playoff hockey to a T.
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Mikeaveli
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Because they literally shut that line down last playoffs.
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seems to me there's 2 very different questions here.
Even Strength (57.2cf%, 57.7scf%, 52.2gf%):
Bergeron: 25gl/57pt pace
Marchand: 23gl/60pt pace
Pastrnak: 25gl/57pt pace
now that's good, but not really an unstoppable force.
we can compare to their first 2 round opponents:
TOR (54.4cf%, 57.0scf%, 60.3gf%):
Tavares: 38gl/72pt pace
Marner: 22gl/70pt pace
Hyman: 23gl/45pt pace
TBL (54.6cf%, 53.8scf%, 59.4gf%):
Point: 22gl/59pt pace
Kuch: 25gl/78pt pace
Johnson: 28gl/40pt pace
and the bruins' top line doesn't seem to have any advantage there.
of course, on the PP, the bruins' trio has been absolutely crushing it, which is a different story. but tampa's line matches them there too.
Even Strength (57.2cf%, 57.7scf%, 52.2gf%):
Bergeron: 25gl/57pt pace
Marchand: 23gl/60pt pace
Pastrnak: 25gl/57pt pace
now that's good, but not really an unstoppable force.
we can compare to their first 2 round opponents:
TOR (54.4cf%, 57.0scf%, 60.3gf%):
Tavares: 38gl/72pt pace
Marner: 22gl/70pt pace
Hyman: 23gl/45pt pace
TBL (54.6cf%, 53.8scf%, 59.4gf%):
Point: 22gl/59pt pace
Kuch: 25gl/78pt pace
Johnson: 28gl/40pt pace
and the bruins' top line doesn't seem to have any advantage there.
of course, on the PP, the bruins' trio has been absolutely crushing it, which is a different story. but tampa's line matches them there too.
Lots of injuries to the Bruins this season and until the trade deadline every team only needed to focus on the Bergeron line versus spreading their defensive focus on 3+ lines.
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this.
In my mind b's didn't get all that much better, than last year, Chara is a year older, we still intend on putting out there Gryz, Krug full time - suicidal in the PO's, the rest of the move are lateral give or take.
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The Leafs are far more deep than Boston offensively. It will come down to defense. If the Leafs can baton down the hatches in their zone, I'd say they will eat Boston's lunch. Ottawa has proven that Boston ain't so bad in the playoffs.
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Bruins haven't gotten past the 2nd round in 6 years, pretty sure many teams don't have a problem shutting down this line.
Bocephus86
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Not sure I'd consider the following stat lines "shut down":
Bergeron: 5G/3A in 5 GP
Marchard: 1G/7A in 5 GP
Pasta: 1G/6A in 5 GP
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And almost none of those points were scored 5 on 5.
5 on 5 scoring for the Bruins dried up. They were heavily reliant on the PP to keep them in games for that series.
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This.^
Tampa may have beaten the Bruins, but they certainly didn't do it by shutting down the Bergeron line.
Emerz
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This narrative that the first line was somehow shut down by Tampa is the strangest thing on HF, no the first line was not shut down in any way, lines 2-4 if I remember correctly did not score an ES goal in games 2-5 and that was the downfall of the team. Nothing to do with line 1.
The first line also outscored Tampa's line they were matching at ES by +2.
In no world did a whole line above PPG get shut down, it simply makes no sense lol.
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Actually, 3 of those goals were 5 on 5. One was a shorty, and 3 goals were PP.
Care to try again?
Mikeaveli
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They didn't score 5 on 5 after game 2. Not just that line actually. The whole team didn't score 5 on 5 after game 2.
BoltzManConstant
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You're right, the "Point's line shut down Bergeron's line" narrative does have an error. The actual narrative is that Bergeron's line dominated in game 1, and then Point's line shut them down in games 2 through 5.
In game 1, Point was minus 5. He then went plus 7 over games 2 through 5, ending up plus 2 for the series. His regular linemates Johnson and Palat also ended up plus 2. I don't have the stats to say exactly who they scored their goals against, because I see Marchand and Bergeron ended up plus 2 as well (Pastrnak +1). But I know Point's line was mainly out there against Bergeron's.
In any case, the answer to this thread does seem to be "Tampa".
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That line has been together for 6 years, humm well that is news to this Bruin fan.
Emerz
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I can't believe anyone could possibly think someone with 8 points in 5 games was shut down in any way, shape or form.
That's all i got lmfao, please take away my hockey fandom if I ever say Bergeron shut down a line that ended up all around 1.5PPG in the series.
From what I can remember, Point's line was not matched up with Bergeron's much after game 1 (or game 2?). I wish I knew a good resource for matchup info to confirm.
With that said, it's true that Bergeron's line was quiet at EV after game 1.
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