Discussion in 'Toronto Maple Leafs' started by Halla, Mar 10, 2018.
Why defense? Draft a center Imo.
Consensus seems to be that this year has a very defense heavy first round.
Since we probably draft late, who knows what is available though.
The other consensus, is that there doesn't seem to be much consensus, as to how the draft will go, outside of the first few prospects.
Tell that to the Islanders. It seems to be bad organizations that seem to think they can make these changes. Outside of Tampa's DeAngelo gamble, most of them are bad teams. Shinkaruk, Duclair, Ho-Sang, McCann, Kabanov and Day either haven't changed or don't seem likely to.
There's a big difference between immaturity and a toxic personality who is unwilling to change. Immaturity is partying too much or not being professional in appraoch like Kadri. Constantly feuding with management, not even attempting to change, berating teammates and such aren't things likely to change. DeAngelo hasn't really changed, and he while having anger issues, didn't take as many liberties outside of when he snapped.
He'll be with Babs a week at most before he's permanently Keefe or whoever is coaching the Marlies problem.
I feel Merkley there is a huge disconnect between people who have watched him alot, compared to people who have HockeyDB'd him and looked at his highlights. I highly recommend to anyone that they read the Guelph Storm sub-forum here and get back here.
Does anyone know if Jeff Woo is related to Kenny? From Anaheim's organization?
Move up and draft Quinn Hughes.
From what little I know about this year's prospects, a move up to the 12th-17th drafting position might be a viable option. How the Leafs would accomplish doing so is the question. Any suggestions?
Sure, plenty of people mature. But plenty don't as well. You ever run into someone who was a dbag in high school and they're still one years later? I was high on Merkley earlier in the year but the more I see of him and read, the more I'm convinced he'll never crack the NHL. Even players with attitude issues don't pull the stuff he does. He's got huge red flags and that's just not something I'd want to gamble on. There's so many other talented players you could take over him that aren't idiots. I hope he gets passed over for a few rounds, maybe that'll wake him up. It won't happen though, teams like the Islanders love picking these types early.
I picked Merkley, the only reason is I remember Matthews talking about Nick Merkley being a friend, and this kid may or may not be a younger sibling. Ya, that's the dumbest reason ever, I know.
I could be wrong (probably)...
But isn't our need for RHD more immediate than a project? We already have a project there. I would say we go Center and get the RHD in Free agency.
12-17 wont get us anywhere close to quinton hughes. not a single ranking even has him slipping to #10
If the leafs fall in love with a guy they might be able to move up a bit.
PickValue1100269.9359.4453.4549.2645.9743.1840.6938.51036.51232.91429.81627.11824.62022.42319.52617.03014.23511.3409.0457.2505.8554.7603.8702.5801.6901.1lets assume we end up with pick 25
Pick 25 = 18.9 + Pick 52 (SJ) = 5.4 + Pick 83 (SJ) = 1.4 = 25.7
That only gets us up to pick 17-18. I only see it happening if they target a guy like Wilde/Veleno/McIsaac and that guy is still there . LA is in that range and they could probably use a couple extra good picks after not having a 1st in 2015 or 2016
the leafs don't have the assets to jump up into the 6th or 7th slot.
the cost would be ginormous ( IE Kapanen, 2018 1st, 2019 1st +)
With the name Jett Woo, how do you not take him?!
I don't I want them to take a center, because when Freddy Gauthier is your best center prospect you have jack **** in terms of prospect depth at center
He's hot ****ing garbage defensively. One of the WORST defenders i've ever watched at the OHL level, and selfish to boot. No thank you. He's a personality you don't let anywhere near a flourishing young core.
Give me one of the big NTDP kids who can defend, with offensive upside AND the size we're missing on the back end. Both of them move really well, too.
I say with this draft being defensive heavy, I can see the top 2/3rds of the draft being just that defensive happy. So because I feel the Leafs bigger need is a center because we have absolutely no depth there, I would go for the best center available in our slot. Actually would trade up if it meant getting a sure fire 2nd line center. I would use free agency or trade to acquire your top 4 RHD that is a need now not later.
Draft McLeod or Hayton or Veleno or Kupari. Move up if need be to get one of them.
I want them to take the best player available - it doesn't have to be a Dman.
You never draft based on need.
Sandin or Lundqvist
Jacob Olofsson is continually rated in the 20's. 6'2" 185 pounds, C
"Nothing about his game jumps out at you, but then again there are few if any glaring weaknesses. He does lean slightly towards the power forward end of the spectrum with his puck protection abilities and strength."
I obviously haven't seen him play but ~.5PPG in the allvenskan is very respectable though
Sign me up for Sandin, but I'd be happy with any of those guys other than Merkley. Stay the hell away from headcases like that.
not from the draft where they will take several years anyways. lijegren will at least be rielly level imo, but top 4 upside at worst. he may not be a gud pro yet, but he has elite, elite skill according to one coach.
we also have rasanen and greenway who have a shot, with rasanen the better one. i've seen greenway and he already has at least ahl tools, great skating and stride for his size, physical, clean first passes and a good shot. he just needs his head in the game and to learn gap control, but imo he can keep up with the pace of the nhl.
I don't know any of them. But how could you pass up on a guy named Jet Woo?
If present, for similar reasons why one should pass on a guy named Tyler Biggs?