Speculation: Where does PLDs contract end up at?

[KingBogo]

We were ready to shell out major cash for Laine - PLD is $8.5 x 8 I think

Who was ready to pay big money to Laine? I wasn’t in that category. I’d pay to keep PLD however. He makes us a much better team.

 

[Channelcat]

Who was ready to pay big money to Laine? I wasn’t in that category. I’d pay to keep PLD however. He makes us a much better team.

Ill always remember that Hextall on hockey segment where she said something like sign Laine 8*11M. I nearly had a stroke.

I'm equally wary of PLD though......he's playing for $ right now, wouldn't be surprised to see him disappear for a few years.

 

[Flair Hay]

Some comps that could be used for third contracts for Dubois:

Johansen 8 x $8 million 10.67% of cap
Couture 5 x $6 million or 9.33% of cap
Kuznetsov 8 x $7.8 million or 10.40% of cap
Point 8 x $9.5 million or 11.66 % of cap
Schenn 4 x $5.2 million or 7.02 % of cap
Hertl 4 x $5.625 million or 7.08 % of cap

So if we go long term off a bridge then I would expect him to come in around Johansen and Kuznetsov's deals so:

$8.5 to $8.7

If its 5 years around Couture's deal which would be $7.7 million

This is great digging. All of Chevy's big signings seem a little bit higher than we are hoping for at the time, but seem to age like fine wine over time

This $8.5-8.7M seems pretty in line with that. Cap isn't going to stay flat forever.

Anything under 10 is a bargain down the road if he sniffs a point a game over the full year. Thankfully for the hockey team, Chevy isnt as generous as me

 

[Daximus]

Wasn’t he a 1c for Columbus?

In the traditional sense yeah he was Columbus' 1C, until they got Duchene and he slotted down to 2C. But I mean more of his overall impact on the ice isn't what I would have considered true #1C territory. I think at that time on most teams he would have been a much better option as a 2C on a team that is looking to contend. Right now he is looking like a 1C period and if he keeps it up for the rest of the year and then of course has that follow up prove it season. Then yeah he's a 1C now.

 

[surixon]

In the traditional sense yeah he was Columbus' 1C, until they got Duchene and he slotted down to 2C. But I mean more of his overall impact on the ice isn't what I would have considered true #1C territory. I think at that time on most teams he would have been a much better option as a 2C on a team that is looking to contend. Right now he is looking like a 1C period and if he keeps it up for the rest of the year and then of course has that follow up prove it season. Then yeah he's a 1C now.

His impact at 5 on 5 was number 1C level each of his last two seasons in Columbus. He just didn't get that many PP points.

 

[KingBogo]

This is great digging. All of Chevy's big signings seem a little bit higher than we are hoping for at the time, but seem to age like fine wine over time

This $8.5-8.7M seems pretty in line with that. Cap isn't going to stay flat forever.

Anything under 10 is a bargain down the road if he sniffs a point a game over the full year. Thankfully for the hockey team, Chevy isnt as generous as me

Wheeler is the only player over paid. Most of Chevy’s contracts are team friendly.

 

[surixon]

Wheeler is the only player over paid. Most of Chevy’s contracts are team friendly.

Yup now that Morrissey is back playing at a top pairing level his contract is also looking very good. I'll gladly pay 6.25 million for a real good all around dmen that will also get 40 to 45 points especially in light of the other crazy contracts signed to dmen lately.

 

[Flair Hay]

Wheeler is the only player over paid. Most of Chevy’s contracts are team friendly.

Pretty much, yup.

 

[Flair Hay]

Yup now that Morrissey is back playing at a top pairing level his contract is also looking very good. I'll gladly pay 6.25 million for a real good all around dmen that will also get 40 to 45 points especially in light of the other crazy contracts signed to dmen lately.

I think the wiser people on here knew he was still Morrissey, just in over his head

 

[surixon]

I think the wiser people on here knew he was still Morrissey, just in over his head

That and he was dealing g with a lot of personal stuff with his dad which understandably clearly impacted his play.

 

[JetsFan815]

I won't expect any discount, I would be happy to get him around 8.5 million if he keeps up this pace.

 

[bumblebeeman]

You clearly like your D men big, but size isn't everything in today's NHL.

Ville is an extremely talented D-man who had a bad training camp. I'd say there would be every reason to assume he will be ready next year. The only problem with Ville is his size, which will make it harder to fit into our top-4 .

Samberg has not shown nearly the same NHL readiness as Heinola in his time on the Moose. He is big and has skill, but has not stood out in the AHL.

Back to Dillon--he is a $4M dman--3.9 to be exact--which makes him exactly $3M more than his potential replacement, Stanley. That $3M, along with Stastny's $3.75, could make it possible to afford Copp and Dubois.

There is a reason Dillon was left unprotected by Washington. Aside from size, hasn't added much to the Jets D in general or to Pink's game in particular. . And at 31 years of age, he is on the far side of the curve.

Ya I agree about Dillon. To me he looks basically like a Chiarot or Kulikov kind of guy, which isn't a bad thing. But he is someone that could be moved to save cap space without having to downgrade on the player too much. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather be able to keep him around, but he's who I would move out if it necessary.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

PLD? Hopefully about 7 x 7.5

8 might be pushing it in both aav and years

 

[GNP]

I would pick PLD over Laine 100 times out of 100. Roslovic is up to 3 points in 11 games. Back to the future for him. Great trade!

You and me both Keith. I was very happy to get rid of Laine. Always complaining he wasn't being paired with the right players, and other things as well. He has slow burst speed, and constantly turned the puck over, as he was easy to outmuscle. He was a good goal scorer, and that's about it. He was a defensive liability, that also wants $ 9 mil to resign - way too much for that guy.

Dubois brings a very complete game, and is fast and big, with a pretty good set of hands on him, and is a great playmaker. I think he'll get a minimum of 60 points this year, but likely 70 or more. He has very good chemistry with Connor, which will be great for the Jets. His game is similar to Scheifele's game, so we have 2 big, great center ice men with a lot of skill.

I think this will go down as one of Chevy's best trades as a GM, as Dubois is really looking good right now, and coming into his own. I do not miss Laine one bit, and thought he was a distraction to the team.

 

[Classic16]

Ya I agree about Dillon. To me he looks basically like a Chiarot or Kulikov kind of guy, which isn't a bad thing. But he is someone that could be moved to save cap space without having to downgrade on the player too much. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather be able to keep him around, but he's who I would move out if it necessary.

We could also buy out Wheelers last 2 years. It would save 4m year. Enough to give copp and Dubois a raise and still resign Statsny for another year and leave our top 4 alone. Demelo is over paid for the 3rd pair and bring up henoila to replace him.

 

[jetsmooseice]

We could also buy out Wheelers last 2 years. It would save 4m year.

Is it possible that might be the only viable option? For the people who are saying 'trade Wheeler', it's great in theory but I'm curious to know who the potential takers would be at his pricetag.

 

[Ossific]

Is it possible that might be the only viable option? For the people who are saying 'trade Wheeler', it's great in theory but I'm curious to know who the potential takers would be at his pricetag.

He for sure would have to be 50% retained in a trade.

 

[jetsmooseice]

He for sure would have to be 50% retained in a trade.

Yeah... but then that undercuts the rationale for getting rid of him in the first place.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

He for sure would have to be 50% retained in a trade.

Canucks fans seem to like Wheeler Heinola for Boeser plus.

Just saying... Morrissey Stanley Samberg ( he is with the Jets) are all ahead as is Dillon and Beaulieu right now. Nate is good depth. U could do worse

You can move Demelo cuz Kovavevic looks like a good 3 rd option and cheaper and you likely move heinola or and Dillon also. Morrissey Stan Sam is our 3 future lhd. Ppl should expect heinola to be moved I think.

 

[KingBogo]

Is it possible that might be the only viable option? For the people who are saying 'trade Wheeler', it's great in theory but I'm curious to know who the potential takers would be at his pricetag.

Wheeler also has a full NMC and would have to waive it. The list of preferred landing spots is likely very small.

 

[KingBogo]

Canucks fans seem to like Wheeler Heinola for Boeser plus.

Just saying... Morrissey Stanley Samberg ( he is with the Jets) are all ahead as is Dillon and Beaulieu right now. Nate is good depth. U could do worse

You can move Demelo cuz Kovavevic looks like a good 3 rd option and cheaper and you likely move heinola or and Dillon also. Morrissey Stan Sam is our 3 future lhd. Ppl should expect heinola to be moved I think.

Why would Wheeler an American waive his NMC to play for a tire fire team in Canada half way across the continent from his home?

 

[Jet]

Canucks fans seem to like Wheeler Heinola for Boeser plus.

Just saying... Morrissey Stanley Samberg ( he is with the Jets) are all ahead as is Dillon and Beaulieu right now. Nate is good depth. U could do worse

You can move Demelo cuz Kovavevic looks like a good 3 rd option and cheaper and you likely move heinola or and Dillon also. Morrissey Stan Sam is our 3 future lhd. Ppl should expect heinola to be moved I think.

I still love Wheels and I see him retiring as a Jet but if we could turn him and Heinola into Boeser + I would jump on that shit in an instant.

 

[Hunter368]

With recent offer sheets in the NHL, plus Habs tire fire who will be looking to dump some of their bad/questionable cap hits this TDL or sooner and still need far better centre depth……you have to imagine Chevy will be pushing hard to get a new contract done before the season is done. Loving PLD play this season, he’s playing like he did in CBJ pre trade and even better. PLD is going to get a huge raise, 8+ million per year if it’s a long term deal…….less then 8 million if it’s a shorter deal. Well deserved

 

[surixon]

With recent offer sheets in the NHL, plus Habs tire fire who will be looking to dump some of their bad/questionable cap hits this TDL or sooner and still need far better centre depth……you have to imagine Chevy will be pushing hard to get a new contract done before the season is done. Loving PLD play this season, he’s playing like he did in CBJ pre trade and even better. PLD is going to get a huge raise, 8+ million per year if it’s a long term deal…….less then 8 million if it’s a shorter deal. Well deserved

Yeah I hope it's done sometime between Jan 1st and the trade deadline.

 

[KingBogo]

Yeah I hope it's done sometime between Jan 1st and the trade deadline.

Can’t he sign anytime this season? I thought you only had to wait to January 1st if you were on a 1 year deal?