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Less than a week ago you said all we needed was a LITTLE luck when talking of Dahlin...
Did the odds change?
Less than a week ago you said all we needed was a LITTLE luck when talking of Dahlin...
Less than a week ago you said all we needed was a LITTLE luck when talking of Dahlin...
So if we rebuild for 3 years, the 24 years old will be 27 by then, add a another 3 to 4 years for those prospects we drafted during the rebuild to be ready to make an impact and the 24 years old is now in his 30's. Easy math budEither you're really bad with math or you,re deluded about what prime years actually are.
Gotta love all these players that are 24, 25 or 26 in three years having wasted their prime years. Gallagher might not have many great years left in the tank, especially given his style of play, but for the rest, you're just unnecessarily being an alarmist.
If you'd mentioned Weber, maybe. Price? Somewhat.
That's really sad, but accurate.The big problem with a rebuild is that we have an incompetent GM so the rebuild will fail. We have an incompetent owner, so when he finally does decide to replace his incompetent GM he's likely going to hire another incompetent.
So the question really boils down to whether it's more entertaining to watch a losing team with some great players, or a team that gives you some great playoff memories but never goes that far.
I wanna see what is fans truly want. Not all fans are represented here but it is reflective of those who love this team.
So have your say!
A reset would include this:
- trade Pacioretty, Shaw, one of Weber/Petry
- go hard after Tavares
- use some picks/prospects as assets in trades where the most glaring holes on the team are
- aim to be bad next year
I don't really see us being able to trade Price and Weber and Petry and Shaw so I vote reset. An unbiased poll would include this as a third option.
What I found confusing in this board is board members saying we suck and need a rebuild while crying after every defeat. If we go for a full rebuild, we are going to suck and lose a lot for the next 2-3 years. And no we are not going to be entertaining before the start of the new era. The Nordique onlys started to being entertaining when they had a chance to enter the playoffs.
That being said... I am in for a complete rebuild, but I can't say I'm going to watch a lot of games for the next two years... unless we get a lot of young exiting players every year.
So a hard rebuild would include this:
- trade Pacioretty, Weber, Price, Petry, Shaw
- build around the remaining 25 and under core: Drouin, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Lehkonen, Scherbak, Juulsen, Mete, Lindgren, Poeling, Brook, etc
- maybe trade 1-2 of the above for younger players and/or picks
- aim to be really bad for another 3 years
A Cinderella playoff team would include:
- trade Galchenyuk or Pacioretty for a young LD like Hayden Fleury or a Centre like RNH
- go hard after Tavares
- go hard after Statsny
- go hard after Jack Johnson
A reset would include this:
- trade Pacioretty, Shaw, one of Weber/Petry
- go hard after Tavares
- use some picks/prospects as assets in trades where the most glaring holes on the team are
- aim to be bad next year
I don't really see us being able to trade Price and Weber and Petry and Shaw so I vote reset. An unbiased poll would include this as a third option.
you better offer 7 year at 16mil/per to Tavares if you plan to tank
The Islanders have Tavares and they still suck. Even if we get him, there is a good chance we will continue to suck as well.
A reset would include this:
- trade Pacioretty, Shaw, one of Weber/Petry
- go hard after Tavares
- use some picks/prospects as assets in trades where the most glaring holes on the team are
- aim to be bad next year
I don't really see us being able to trade Price and Weber and Petry and Shaw so I vote reset. An unbiased poll would include this as a third option.
So... Tavares would like to leave a losing team only to join another one? He would be ready to waste another year of losing games? I don't think so. If Tavares does indeed leave NY, he's going to go to a contender. Teams like St. Louis and San Jose would be easy/better choices (and they have capspace for him).
Sure, we're a better team than the Islanders but doesn't mean we're a good team. And our D doesn't need a tweak so much as a complete overhaul. Tavares obviously isn't coming but even if he did - do you really trust that Marc can fix the D? I don't... I guess it'll get us back in the playoffs in the 6-8 seed and then who knows? Anything can happen. That's the Bergevin dream.I disagree. We're more stacked at wing than they are. They don't have a Price or a Weber.
Sure our D would need a tweek, but we're a better team with JT than the Isles are with JT.
It's just not happening though.
So... Tavares would like to leave a losing team only to join another one? He would be ready to waste another year of losing games? I don't think so. If Tavares does indeed leave NY, he's going to go to a contender. Teams like St. Louis and San Jose would be easy/better choices (and they have capspace for him).
I hear you, I think if you actually are successful in signing Tavares you would be hard pressed to actually tank.
St Louis is interesting because they're obviously a good team but goaltending has been their achilles heel. If I'm Tavares do I want to go from one bad goaltending situation to another? Maybe not.
I'm most scared of Tampa. Good god that would be ugly if he signs the same deal Stamkos did just so they can have a super team. Yikes.