Pre-Game Talk: Week of Shorts (SJ, VAN)

[The Mars Volchenkov]

Did anyone see Frei's mailbag piece? He said the Avs weren't happy with Bigras conditioning level in camp. Hadn't heard that before.

 

[henchman21]

We're the worst team in the league and on top of that we are missing lots of our best players. Amazing.

Hey, we are 19 points back from 28th now and 8 points back from 29th. On pace for 51 points... on pace to be the worst team in the OTL point era.

 

[ASmileyFace]

Hey, we are 19 points back from 28th now and 8 points back from 29th. On pace for 51 points... on pace to be the worst team in the OTL point era.

That's truly incredible. Never would have guessed in a million years that we'd be THIS bad.

I'd would be quite the accomplishment to be the worst team since the loser point.

 

[Avs_19]

Did anyone see Frei's mailbag piece? He said the Avs weren't happy with Bigras conditioning level in camp. Hadn't heard that before.

I haven't read it but that's disappointing to hear. Hopefully it ends differently than the last prospect whose conditioning they weren't happy with.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Not really sure I buy that or what standards they expect.

 

[henchman21]

That's truly incredible. Never would have guessed in a million years that we'd be THIS bad.

I'd would be quite the accomplishment to be the worst team since the loser point.

For reference, 13-14 Sabres hold the record at 52 points. It is going to be tight, but I think the Avs can do it.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Does it really matter between them all? Maybe they really expect Varly to be back right after the break?

O'Brien does allow them to not use LTIR and bank a touch.

They expect the others back too. No it doesn't matter, just trying to figure out what the hell they are doing. Even the highest in the AHL would be under 500k now.

 

[Avs_19]

Has Bednar given an update on EJ recently?

 

[The Kingslayer]

For reference, 13-14 Sabres hold the record at 52 points. It is going to be tight, but I think the Avs can do it.

I think we shatter that rather easily lol.

 

[henchman21]

They expect the others back too. No it doesn't matter, just trying to figure out what the hell they are doing. Even the highest in the AHL would be under 500k now.

There are a bunch of complexities to the cap, but what you are referencing is the whole season average hit, not the daily cap it. Both matter. The daily cap hit determines if a team is banking (allowing them to go over later on), pulling from that that banking, or having to use LTIR. For this season it is 73m/180... or 405,555.55 per day. If the Avs exceed that, they use up the bank they have built up, or have to use LTIR. The O'Brien call up allows them to not use up the banking or have them use LTIR.

The IR is a big question mark, though not sure it realistically matters.

 

[Goulet17]

Hey, we are 19 points back from 28th now and 8 points back from 29th. On pace for 51 points... on pace to be the worst team in the OTL point era.

Worse than Buffalo, which intentionally tried to lose a couple of seasons ago. Being bad is one thing, but this is completely off the rails.

 

[Goulet17]

Did anyone see Frei's mailbag piece? He said the Avs weren't happy with Bigras conditioning level in camp. Hadn't heard that before.

I don't know, but that would be surprising. Bigras has a reputation as a really mature, hard-working kid.

It may be that with a new coaching staff, Bednar is not his biggest fan. Roy loved Bigras from day one.

 

[henchman21]

I don't know, but that would be surprising. Bigras has a reputation as a really mature, hard-working kid.

It may be that with a new coaching staff, Bednar is not his biggest fan. Roy loved Bigras from day one.

I could actually see that... Bigras isn't an intense player by any stretch.

 

[henchman21]

There are a bunch of complexities to the cap, but what you are referencing is the whole season average hit, not the daily cap it. Both matter. The daily cap hit determines if a team is banking (allowing them to go over later on), pulling from that that banking, or having to use LTIR. For this season it is 73m/180... or 405,555.55 per day. If the Avs exceed that, they use up the bank they have built up, or have to use LTIR. The O'Brien call up allows them to not use up the banking or have them use LTIR.

The IR is a big question mark, though not sure it realistically matters.

Doing the math on this, the Avs are actually slightly over the daily cap even with O'Brien... about 254k, or 1400 per day. That will come out of the banking slightly.

 

[NuxFan09]

Hey Avs fans, don't know where else to put this. What are your team'so go-to PP and PK units when all healthy? Thanks!

 

[The Abusement Park]

I could actually see that... Bigras isn't an intense player by any stretch.

I can't even fathom Bigras not being given a chance at some point... He has legit top 4 potential. I know physically he seems a little immature(may be the wrong way to put that), but he plays so smart and really seems like he can make a difference for us.

 

[member 116861]

Hey Ave fans, don't know where else to put this. What are your team'so go-to PP and PK units when all healthy? Thanks!

You've made my day, thanks!

 

[NuxFan09]

You've made my day, thanks!

My pleasure. I imagine auto correct has made a lot of people's days!

 

[dahrougem2]

Whaddaya know, I got the score of the Avs/Sharks game correct

 

[henchman21]

Hey Avs fans, don't know where else to put this. What are your team'so go-to PP and PK units when all healthy? Thanks!

There is no go to... they all suck.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Hey Avs fans, don't know where else to put this. What are your team'so go-to PP and PK units when all healthy? Thanks!

Why? They change a lot. Just wondering what you are looking for here.

PP is probably Rantanen, MacKinnon, Landeskog, Duchene, Barrie. Sometimes Duchene is on the second unit and Iggy can be on first or second unit, second lately. Grigo, Soderberg more on the second unit as well. Zadorov has been playing on the PP too.

PK I'm not sure there's a top unit. A lot of Beauchemin, Landeskog, Comeau, Tyutin. Zadorov, Nieto, MacKinnon are on it quite a bit too.

 

[dahrougem2]

Was Beauchemin playing a lot of PP minutes last game? I looked at his TOI and he had IIRC 3+ minutes of PP time.

 

[Avs_19]

Was Beauchemin playing a lot of PP minutes last game? I looked at his TOI and he had IIRC 3+ minutes of PP time.

Of course he was. Even after he turned the puck over, gave up odd man rushes, skated around like he didn't give a crap, etc.

 

[NuxFan09]

Why? They change a lot. Just wondering what you are looking for here.

PP is probably Rantanen, MacKinnon, Landeskog, Duchene, Barrie. Sometimes Duchene is on the second unit and Iggy can be on first or second unit, second lately. Grigo, Soderberg more on the second unit as well. Zadorov has been playing on the PP too.

PK I'm not sure there's a top unit. A lot of Beauchemin, Landeskog, Comeau, Tyutin. Zadorov, Nieto, MacKinnon are on it quite a bit too.

Thanks.

Just curious. I like to kind of get an in depth look at all teams.

 

[dahrougem2]

Of course he was. Even after he turned the puck over, gave up odd man rushes, skated around like he didn't give a crap, etc.

Gotta have that veteran presence!