Post-Game Talk: Wasn't that a delight, Islanders 6 - Jets 3

[Buffdog]

Sean Reynolds was talking about this a month+ ago and these late season "malaises". Said the same thing, but specifically that this team has had huge issues flipping that switch when they needed to. Even Bowness spoke earlier about how you can't play as hard as he wanted them to all year.

There better be one big flip lined up because they're losing all consistency and their bad games are resembling some of the Vegas games last year, absolute no shows.

They seemed to flip it vs NYR, a game with playoff-like intensity

Not sure if it will be there tomorrow for a noon game vs caps, but they better figure it the f*** out with the Oilers and f*** Vegas coming into town this week

 

[Mud Turtle]

I didn’t get to watch this “gem” but it doesn’t sound like I missed much.
Two early goals again.
Helle’s goals again average would probably be close to 1.50 if he didn’t have to face the first 3 shots on goal every game.
It’s crazy how often we get scored on in the first few minutes.

 

[MardyBum]

They seemed to flip it vs NYR, a game with playoff-like intensity

Not sure if it will be there tomorrow for a noon game vs caps, but they better figure it the f*** out with the Oilers and f*** Vegas coming into town this week

Did they? That was a close game, and a win, but they didn't dominate, (Not that they should have). I'm talking more about these absolute no show losses. When they lose they have been losing BAD. Earlier in the year their losses looked more like the NYR game, maybe a bit worse because no team is perfect, with the occasional flub.

The Jets have been shitkicked a few too many times the past few weeks. It's falling off a cliff then dragging yourself back up to your feet to walk a few miles before falling off a bigger cliff

 

[Duke749]

Team is just not there mentally right now. Not sure why to be honest. Been a roller coaster as of late. But even the last two months we’re still 14-9. Still plenty of games left and the last thing I want is to peak too soon(or completely implode obviously).

 

[Duke749]

Did they? That was a close game, and a win, but they didn't dominate, (Not that they should have). I'm talking more about these absolute no show losses. When they lose they have been losing BAD. Earlier in the year their losses looked more like the NYR game, maybe a bit worse because no team is perfect, with the occasional flub.

The Jets have been shitkicked a few too many times the past few weeks. It's falling off a cliff then dragging yourself back up to your feet to walk a few miles before falling off a bigger cliff

Five of our seven wins this month have been by 3 or more goals. The other two were against CAR and the NYR. And we have three shutouts this month. I’m all for dumping in this game. But overall it has been far from as bad as a lot of posters imply.

 

[LucianoBorsato]

Pre-season I had Jets finishing 3rd in the Central. Looking like a good bet now.

How will they do in the PO? Will the good Jets be able to show up often enough? Anybody's guess.

I predicted they would be WC2, I may be correct yet lol.

 

[Gm0ney]

Pionk's the worst defenseman on the team, except for Stanley. But at least they seem to realize Stanley's not great and don't play him so much.

 

[gojetsgo]

I predicted they would be WC2, I may be correct yet lol.

we go 6-6 in the next 12 means that nashville has to go 9-2 to pass us

 

[LucianoBorsato]

If it makes anyone feel better, the Oilers are getting destroyed by the Leafs right now. Either team getting trounced in this game is a win-win scenario.

 

[LucianoBorsato]

we go 6-6 in the next 12 means that nashville has to go 9-2 to pass us

Yeah I don't think that will happen, I'm not that pessimistic lol. I looked at this road trip and could see these games would be tough because there are 3 teams battling for wildcard spots and would be playing desperate. The overall schedule in March is pretty rough, basically a game every second day.

That doesn't excuse these poor starts, though. Should have been ready going into the NJ game and today.

 

[raideralex99]

So it looks like the Devils are not up for the Sens tonight … Sens scored 4 goals on 13 shots.
Leafs up 4-0 on Oilers so it looks like a few teams are playing like the Jets.

 

[bustamente]

Let's see if the coaches see what we saw from Pionk's play today and really the last while, he got man handled today and needs to sit for a few games.

 

[JetsFan815]

I stopped watching the game somewhere during the 2nd when it became obvious they didn't have it today. Looking at statsheet looks like changes were finally made to two of their biggest sacred cows "81-55" combo and the "3rd line" and the results were better. Hope they give these lines a bit of run.

Good to see Cole score, now it is on the coaches to put him in situations to let him score more. It's a 2-way street.

I don't mind these losses too much, the playoffs are what matters now and I don't care too much about seeding, sucks to see the team lose but if these losses are the only way the Jets will address certain things and make changes, that is a small price to pay for playoff success. It had been pretty apparent to me that the version of this team that has been playing since the ASB looks like an easy 1st round exit unless some aggressive changes were made so if this results in them being a better team for the playoffs, that's a win in the long run.

 

[Howard Chuck]

That’s

I think the Jets have put it in cruise control, and maybe that's not such a bad idea. Why burn yourself out, going all out, when you have a playoff spot wrapped up ? They will be fine, and they won't be worn out come playoff time, and whoever they face will be tough. I wouldn't worry to much about today's loss, and if they win their next game, they'll be over 500 on this roadtrip, and have beaten the Rangers while doing it. They just can't form a habit playing like this tho, or it will carry forward into the playoffs

I was

I was wondering if some of the reason we're not seeing much urgency form them is because they're kinda just locked into a top 3 spot in the division and they realize the playoffs are going to be a battle from start to finish

That's not a great attitude when coming up against teams like the preds and isles who aren playing for their playoff lives

The bright spot is it looked like they flipped the switch thr other night vs the NYR when they had a game to get up for

I was thinking the same thing. At least I hope that’s what they’re doing.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I would love to see what we have in Barron. Throw him on the top line in Iafallo’s place and see what happens. He’s got speed and tenacity, just what that team needs, but I think he has more to give offensively as well.

 

[MardyBum]

Five of our seven wins this month have been by 3 or more goals. The other two were against CAR and the NYR. And we have three shutouts this month. I’m all for dumping in this game. But overall it has been far from as bad as a lot of posters imply.

If only goals told the story of how a game went. . Goalies don't exist unless they're a point of bragging about apparently.

 

[Ponds]

Ahmed Johnson was kind enough to do the post-game interview for Connor Hellebyuck..

 

[MardyBum]

I stopped watching the game somewhere during the 2nd when it became obvious they didn't have it today. Looking at statsheet looks like changes were finally made to two of their biggest sacred cows "81-55" combo and the "3rd line" and the results were better. Hope they give these lines a bit of run.

Good to see Cole score, now it is on the coaches to put him in situations to let him score more. It's a 2-way street.

I don't mind these losses too much, the playoffs are what matters now and I don't care too much about seeding, sucks to see the team lose but if these losses are the only way the Jets will address certain things and make changes, that is a small price to pay for playoff success. It had been pretty apparent to me that the version of this team that has been playing since the ASB looks like an easy 1st round exit unless some aggressive changes were made so if this results in them being a better team for the playoffs, that's a win in the long run.

It's nice you think these kind of losses will result in changes. We need a will they/won't they Connor-Scheifele game 1 playoffs poll

 

[johnnyonthspot]

Pre-season I had Jets finishing 3rd in the Central. Looking like a good bet now.

How will they do in the PO? Will the good Jets be able to show up often enough? Anybody's guess.

My guess is they lose out in 5 games in the first round

 

[Buffdog]

Did they? That was a close game, and a win, but they didn't dominate, (Not that they should have). I'm talking more about these absolute no show losses. When they lose they have been losing BAD. Earlier in the year their losses looked more like the NYR game, maybe a bit worse because no team is perfect, with the occasional flub.

The Jets have been shitkicked a few too many times the past few weeks. It's falling off a cliff then dragging yourself back up to your feet to walk a few miles before falling off a bigger cliff

Of course the Jets won't dominate the Rangers, and I don't think that they'll dominate anyone int he playoffs either

Sure, the no-shows are one thing but it might be more worrisome if they were playing their absolute best and losing. At least a team this good has a chance to go all thr way, provided it figures out how to bring effort consistently

And on that note, I think that Bone's system of high tempo pressure just takes a lot of exertion. It was maybe easier to do early I the season and then becomes more difficult as guys get dinged up and tired. That one goal where Ehlers coasted back and didn't pick up the guy who scored sort of had me wondering. That's not like him

 

[MardyBum]

Of course the Jets won't dominate the Rangers, and I don't think that they'll dominate anyone int he playoffs either

Sure, the no-shows are one thing but it might be more worrisome if they were playing their absolute best and losing. At least a team this good has a chance to go all thr way, provided it figures out how to bring effort consistently

And on that note, I think that Bone's system of high tempo pressure just takes a lot of exertion. It was maybe easier to do early I the season and then becomes more difficult as guys get dinged up and tired. That one goal where Ehlers coasted back and didn't pick up the guy who scored sort of had me wondering. That's not like him

???

I legitimately tried to come up with something for this paragraph but I have nothing. Playing bad is better because playing good and losing is more concerning. Playing good consistently is the problem.

 

[scelaton]

I stopped watching the game somewhere during the 2nd when it became obvious they didn't have it today. Looking at statsheet looks like changes were finally made to two of their biggest sacred cows "81-55" combo and the "3rd line" and the results were better. Hope they give these lines a bit of run.

Good to see Cole score, now it is on the coaches to put him in situations to let him score more. It's a 2-way street.

I don't mind these losses too much, the playoffs are what matters now and I don't care too much about seeding, sucks to see the team lose but if these losses are the only way the Jets will address certain things and make changes, that is a small price to pay for playoff success. It had been pretty apparent to me that the version of this team that has been playing since the ASB looks like an easy 1st round exit unless some aggressive changes were made so if this results in them being a better team for the playoffs, that's a win in the long run.

Agree with much of this. I stopped watching early-on as well, when it was clear where this was headed.

There have been problems with the way the lines have been constituted for quite a while now, but with the team fighting for first place, very few people seemed to care what the underlying numbers were saying. The response to the last couple of games should not be "forget it and move on"-- quite the opposite.

Apart from the need to adjust the forward lines, Josh looks like he is carrying the defensive weight of the world on his shoulders. He is. Pionk needs to sit for a game or two and I'd be quite happy to see Ville there in his place. There is no way the team could be more defensively vulnerable with that move.

The best time to have made these moves was a month ago, but the next best time is right now.

 

[WpgSteve]

???

I legitimately tried to come up with something for this paragraph but I have nothing. Playing bad is better because playing good and losing is more concerning. Playing good consistently is the problem.

If you're playing good and losing, you're just not good enough. If you're playing like crap and losing, there's hope that you can play better and win.

Makes sense to me. Would still prefer developing better habits though. The "switch" may not be as easy to flip as one would hope.

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

Eh!!!!!!

“what are you going to do?”

 

[macmaroon]

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