TSN reports proposal was made today (2.9.05) by the NHL and PA rejected .
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bleedgreen
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Errr.. easy... becasue they didn't refuse their own offer. Their offer had nothing about the league being able to call "uncle" and switch to their system whenever they wanted..The Iconoclast said:
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bleedgreen said:
Not exactly - he said that that's the time that they need to start the CBA if there is to be a season. Not the same thing as having it done and signed.
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The Season will be cancelled if an Agreement is Not made by This weekend.
Per Bettmans Conference Call.
And they made a proposal, their 3rd in 3 months. And it was a compromise, they will start the collective bargining agreement based on the Unions December 9th deal. And if they didnt work, it would automatically switch to the NHL's Propsal made around their last offer.
And the NHLPA flat out denied it. So, the NHL gave in, and gave them their deal, but said if it didnt work, they then wanted their proposal to click in. And they said No.
So,what exactly is the defense to this. the NHLPA just refused thier OWN Offer?
Per Bettmans Conference Call.
And they made a proposal, their 3rd in 3 months. And it was a compromise, they will start the collective bargining agreement based on the Unions December 9th deal. And if they didnt work, it would automatically switch to the NHL's Propsal made around their last offer.
And the NHLPA flat out denied it. So, the NHL gave in, and gave them their deal, but said if it didnt work, they then wanted their proposal to click in. And they said No.
So,what exactly is the defense to this. the NHLPA just refused thier OWN Offer?
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EndBoards said:
Why would they do that if the players system works like they say it will?
why would any owner try to lose money if the system they have works?
answer me that please.
Nothing new to report. TSN and the media has basically summed up what Bettman is speaking. PA has infact invted the NHL back to the Batcave and talks will resume either tonight, or tomorrow... combo of both?
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bleedgreen
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offered the split deal. pa refused. bettman gives speech saying the league wants to play the players what they can afford to pay - no more no less. bettman has been invited to stay in to.
if league pays out more than 55% or
4 teams over 42 million or
average team over 36 million or
missed the third one
these are the triggers the league can switch to their offer.
if league pays out more than 55% or
4 teams over 42 million or
average team over 36 million or
missed the third one
these are the triggers the league can switch to their offer.
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Greschner4 said:
Important?!?!? Geez.. dont let logic get in the way of a good player bashing. It is a PR stunt. Apparently the players have no say in whether or not its working and if the NHL deems in their own non specified terms that its not then they get the deal they've always wanted. No fuss no muss..
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think/blue said:
all related to spending.
If the top 3 HIghest spenders spent more than 33% of the bottom 3. was the only one I really understood.
But they were all tied to how much money was spent, in relattion to how much money was Brought in.
Bettman just took a cheap shot and said "it appears that They dont want a partnership with us that is tied to money being made"
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think/blue said:
Salaries over 55%
3 teams over 42 million dollar payroll
Average team payroll leauge wide of 36 million
Highest to lowest percentage of salary range ie Detroit compared to Nashville exceeding over 33%
SSJTOM said:
The four ways that the PA's December proposal would switch over to the NHL's proposal this month.
1. More than 3 teams over $42 million payroll (I think)
2. Owners paying more than 55% of revenue
I didn't catch the last two.
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bleedgreen said:
Arent these triggers worse than the deal that the NHL offered? What a crap deal.
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think/blue said:
I'm paraphrasing, so be kind if I get it slightly wrong:
1. More than 55 percent of league revenues goes to payroll
2. More than three teams spending more than $42.5 million
3. Average payroll exceeds $36.5 million ($38.5?)
4. Disparity of payroll between the average of the top three teams is 33 percent greater than those of the bottom three.
Forgive my math if I'm wrong, but that would mean if the top three average $42 million, the bottom three can average no less than $28 million.
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