Trades you’d try to make in the off season for Detroit.

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Zadina +
for Skjei

Rasmussen to Pittsburgh for Petterson.

Late round pick for Klingberg
Late round pick for Trocheck

Stop trying to trade Rasmussen he’s currently looking to potentially break out.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

TSN had something recently about Toronto likely needing to unload one of their "big 4" for cap flexibility going forward. I doubt anyone touches Tavares at 32 years old getting 11mil for another 3 years. I also doubt they trade Matthews. So it'd boil down to Marner or Nylander. Trading Marner gives them much more cap flexibility, and we just happen to have 2 top 6 forwards that'd save them 5+ million in cap space in Vrana and Bertuzzi. It sounds crazy, but they'd still be getting a top line forward and saving a ton of cap. Who knows if we'd have to "add", but if anything we've seen the crazy prices GM's give up for cap flexibility so it could happen.

Vrana and Johansson for Marner
Bertuzzi+ for Barzal
Hronek for a left D with size
Add some size in free agency

Marner and matthews are never getting traded, dubas is committed to them. Now nylander I could see.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Stop trying to trade Rasmussen he’s currently looking to potentially break out.

You mean he might finally become the next Brian Boyle?

 

[golffuul]

You mean he might finally become the next Brian Boyle?

I would take that in a heartbeat.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I would take that in a heartbeat.

Same. I’m not ready to close the book on Ras but I’m also not going to let a hot streak after a massive cold streak and an otherwise mediocre season make me believe he’s turned the corner. If he carries this play into next season then I’ll be happy. But for now it feels like too little too late.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Same. I’m not ready to close the book on Ras but I’m also not going to let a hot streak after a massive cold streak and an otherwise mediocre season make me believe he’s turned the corner. If he carries this play into next season then I’ll be happy. But for now it feels like too little too late.

“Little too late” he’s 22, tage Thompson just broke out at 24 and before that his season high was like 14 points in 39 games. Let’s pump the breaks on wanting to trade Rasmussen, I’m against trading him because he’s actually showing improvement. Zadina in all his time here I don’t think has improved as a player at all so to me he is expendable unlike ras. Plus ras has physical tools that make him potentially more valuable.

 

[golffuul]

Same. I’m not ready to close the book on Ras but I’m also not going to let a hot streak after a massive cold streak and an otherwise mediocre season make me believe he’s turned the corner. If he carries this play into next season then I’ll be happy. But for now it feels like too little too late.

I definitely give Ras at least another season before determining his fate. His improvement this year warrants at least that. And I think moving him to the wing will yield a superior result for Detroit. Unclogs the middle for Veleno to develop more and helps to move some guys down/off the roster. Ras feels alot like a potential Wilson clone, to me. If he can continue to play physically and get stronger he can play top 6 as a net-front guy who forechecks well, can do decently with face-offs as needed and can create a lot of space for his linemates.

Edit: When I think of Ras in a Wilson role...I'm not thinking of the fighting aspect. Just physical player with good scoring ability...15-20+ goals.

 

[The Zermanator]

Same. I’m not ready to close the book on Ras but I’m also not going to let a hot streak after a massive cold streak and an otherwise mediocre season make me believe he’s turned the corner. If he carries this play into next season then I’ll be happy. But for now it feels like too little too late.

I just want my team of giants. Put Rasmussen, Soderblom, Seider, Edvinsson, and Cossa on this ice together and watch the other team tremble before hockey's Monstars.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

We need an official tally of how many times somebody has said something like "Rasmussen is about to break out!" or "Zadina is turning the corner!" That would inject some much-needed perspective.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

I'd try to move for Sanheim with an extension in place.

I'd move something like:

'23 1st round pick (top 5 protected)
'22 2nd round pick (WSH)
Jonatan Berggren
Albert Johansson

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Nothing major.

Trading good assets for marginal players will hurt the team in the long run.

I'd be ok with trading Zadina without any other moves.

Depends on free agency who could become available IMO.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I'd try to move for Sanheim with an extension in place.

I'd move something like:

'23 1st round pick (top 5 protected)
'22 2nd round pick (WSH)
Jonatan Berggren
Albert Johansson

All that for Sanheim?

Are you nuts?

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

All that for Sanheim?

Are you nuts?

I'd be happy to add a 26 year old defenseman as good as Sanheim for less if possible, but these players don't come cheap.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

He's 26, and he was good this year. His body of work doesn't say 4 top assets kinda player to me.

And to extend him would be a long term deal. I just think it would turn out bad.

 

[Ricelund]

Chychrun is worth a look depending on the price. We know that Yzerman showed interest earlier this season.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

He's 26, and he was good this year. His body of work doesn't say 4 top assets kinda player to me.

And to extend him would be a long term deal. I just think it would turn out bad.

That's fair, I recognize there are no easy choices here. I think he'd pair really effectively with Seider. He's never had anyone like that to work with in Philly. I think that Seider, Sanheim, Edvinsson, and Hronek would be a nice top 4 going forward. Each player brings something different to the table.

Is there a top 4 LHD you have your eye on?

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Chycrun is worth a look depending on the price. We know that Yzerman showed interest earlier this season.

Chychrun is intriguing, but I think he's the sexiest name on the LHD market. I'm not sure we can bring him in without parting with some big-assets.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

That's fair, I recognize there are no easy choices here. I think he'd pair really effectively with Seider. He's never had anyone like that to work with in Philly. I think that Seider, Sanheim, Edvinsson, and Hronek would be a nice top 4 going forward. Each player brings something different to the table.

Is there a top 4 LHD you have your eye on?

Schmidt. Or someone in that vein.

Someone Detroit doesn't have to give up much to get.

Chychrun is worth a look depending on the price. We know that Yzerman showed interest earlier this season.

Cost is too high. Otherwise he would have been dealt.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I'd try to move for Sanheim with an extension in place.

I'd move something like:

'23 1st round pick (top 5 protected)
'22 2nd round pick (WSH)
Jonatan Berggren
Albert Johansson

Dude Sanheim isn't THAT good.

I'd give them Hronek and Washington's second.

 

[heyfolks]

Any trade discussions would involve young players coming to Detroit. Only Mo is untouchable.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Dude Sanheim isn't THAT good.

I'd give them Hronek and Washington's second.

Probably not fair value IMO, Hronek will be an RFA, Sanheim will be a UFA.

Why is Detroit adding a 2nd?

Any trade discussions would involve young players coming to Detroit. Only Mo is untouchable.

Really. Only him?

 

[heyfolks]

Really. Only him?

For the right player, yes. The only other possible untouchables are Raymond and Larkin. For the right return, I'd consider moving them. This team isn't going anywhere, and it would need to be one helluva deal, but I'd consider it. Larkin moved over Raymond. He's a #2 center and going to be 26 next season... likely 29/30 when this team is competing for the Cup.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Probably not fair value IMO, Hronek will be an RFA, Sanheim will be a UFA.

Why is Detroit adding a 2nd?

For the pain and suffering of having both Hronek AND Ristolainen on defense.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

For the pain and suffering of having both Hronek AND Ristolainen on defense.

Very kind to send a 2nd. Ya know, condolences and all.

Do you really think Sanheim is better than Hronek? Or is it just switching sides?

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Very kind to send a 2nd. Ya know, condolences and all.

Do you really think Sanheim is better than Hronek? Or is it just switching sides?

I think Sanheim is steadier for sure. His most common partner was Ristolainen this year and it probably gave him PTSD. I'd love to have him play with Seider. I think they would work well together.