Rumor: Trade Rumors Thread Part 5: NYR Interested in Boyle, Gaborik Available (MOD: READ OP)

[BBKers]

26 games, 0 goals. Fits in perfectly.

Say no to Clowe. Go Charlestown Chiefs instead... Seriously. Would be Funny if Sather did some crazy moves getting an entire Goon Line as a counter move. If you can't beat ' em, beat them. I would laugh to death

McGrattan - Scott - Orr
Carkner...
Call up Big Mac

Who's got the foil coach?

 

[DoTheBlue]

Geez.
Check the boards earlier Iginla to Boston. Oh ****.
Check the board couple hours later Iginla to Pitt. Mother of God.
Bruins got bent over but the rest of the east is about to get screwed.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Oh well.

Their D is still suspect and MAF is hot 'n cold.

Not willing to declare anyone a cup lock, ever...they will definitely be the favorites heading into the playoffs, though.

 

[Krams]

Say no to Clowe. Go Charlestown Chiefs instead... Seriously. Would be Funny if Sather did some crazy moves getting an entire Goon Line as a counter move. If you can't beat ' em, beat them. I would laugh to death

McGrattan - Scott - Orr
Carkner...
Call up Big Mac

Who's got the foil coach?

Scott-Konopka-Torres would be better.

 

[BBKers]

Scott-Konopka-Torres would be better.

PAIN is fine any way it can be achieved. You got me there...

 

[DoTheBlue]

Oh well.

Their D is still suspect and MAF is hot 'n cold.

Not willing to declare anyone a cup lock, ever...they will definitely be the favorites heading into the playoffs, though.

I agree. Worry about it later. Take care of your own business. Who knows what happens from here on out. Still .... The friggin Penguins

 

[Esa 10]

Shero did a masterful job. Absolutely brilliant.

But, which Fleury shows up this year? Vokoun hasn't been to the play-offs since who knows when, if ever and it's the same defense save Murray that was a gong show against the Flyers.

It looks like Pitt will be facing NYR or NJ in the 1st round. Both Lundy / Brodeur are perfectly capable of killing off the Pens. Don't forget what Halak did against a stacked Pens team defending a Cup in 2010.

 

[Callagraves]

I used to like Morrow and Iggy.

Thats fine. Bigger targets. More pressure.
Bigger win.

 

[darko]

Lol @ all the 'hand the Cup' to Pens posts.

No such thing. Their D is still somewhat questionable and you cant exactly trust MAF.

 

[Tawnos]

I think I've only seen one rental deal of this type that actually had people thinking the team trading the player got a better deal, and that was the Kaberle trade in 2011, and ironically Boston won the Cup anyway. Why are people always so shocked that the ransom for a player whom you might only get 3.5 months (a likely less) of service out of isn't that great? I mean, if a 35 yr old, pending UFA, Gretzky can get traded for Vopat, Tardif, Johnson, 1st and 5th, is Agostino, Hanowski, 1st really that awful of a return for 35 year old Jerome Iginla?

 

[Ola]

Oh well.

Their D is still suspect and MAF is hot 'n cold.

Not willing to declare anyone a cup lock, ever...they will definitely be the favorites heading into the playoffs, though.

Yeah, anyone remembering Colorado getting Kariya and Sellanne -- and unless I am misstaken -- had their worst season during that era, knows that this can disturb as much as it can help you.

But of course they are good.

 

[Callagraves]

There really aren't words for how much I hate the Penguins. Torts calling them dirty and arrogant is the best thing he's done here.

 

[BBKers]

Who will stay and who will go?


TRADE GUIDELINE
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013 (49)

NEW YORK RANGERS (25)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
1| D | McDonagh, Ryan (ELC) | $1,300,000* |RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #12 Montreal (2007)
2| F | Stepan, Derek (ELC)| $875,000 | RFA 2013 |New York Rangers/NHL|R2 #51 NYR (2008)
3| F | Hagelin, Carl (ELC) | $875,000* | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #168 NYR (2007)
4 |D| Sauer, Michael (LTIR) | $1,250,000 | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #40 NYR (2005)
5| D| Hamrlik, Roman | $3,500,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #1 Washington (1992)
6| D| Eminger, Steve | $750,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #12 Washington (2002)
7| D | Zuccarello, Mats| $750,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
8| D | Gilroy, Matt| $650,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
9| D | Del Zotto, M. | $2,550,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #20 NYR (2008)
10| F | Kreider, Chris (ELC)| $1,325,000* | RFA 2014|New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #19 NYR (2009)
11| F | Gaborik, Marian (NTC)| $7,500,000| UFA 2014 |New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #3 Minnesota (2000)
12| G | Lundqvist, Henrik | $6,875,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #208 NYR (2000)
13| F | Callahan, Ryan | $4,275,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R4 #127 NYR (2004)
14| D| Girardi, Dan | $3,325,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
15| D| Stralman, Anton| $1,700,000| UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
16| F| Boyle, Brian | $1,700,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
17| F | Pyatt, Taylor | $1,550,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #8 New York Isles (1999)
18| F | Powe, Darroll | $1,066,667 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
19| G |Biron, Martin | $1,300,000 |UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #16 Buffalo (1995)
20| F | Asham, Arron | $1,000,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
21| F | Newbury, Kris | $600,000 |UFA 2014 |New York Rangers/NHL| R5 #139 San Jose (2002)
22| F | Miller, J.T. (ELC)| $1,244,167* | RFA 2015 |New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #15 NYR (2011)
23| D | Staal, Marc (LTIR) | $3,975,000 | UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #12 NYR (2005)
24| F | Nash, Rick (NMC) | $7,800,000 | UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #1 Columbus (2002)
25| F | Richards, Brad (NMC) | $6,666,667 | UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL| R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)[/table]

Assigned to AHL/ECHL/Europe (24)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
26| D | Delisle, Steven (ELC) | $733,333* |RFA 2013| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL| R4 #107 CBJ (2008)
27| D | Niemi, Jyri (ELC) | $700,000*| RFA 2013| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL| R3 #72 NYI (2008)
28| F | Ferriero, Benn | $700,000 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #196 Phoenix (2006)
29| D | Pyett, Logan | $600,000| RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #212 Detroit (2006)
30| F | Palmieri, Nick | $577,500 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL | R3 #79 New Jersey Devils (2007)
31| F | Mashinter, Brandon | $550,000 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
32| D | Parlett, Blake (ELC) | $537,500| RFA 2013 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
33| D | Collins, Sean | $600,000 | UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
34| F | Segal, Brandon| $550,000 | UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R4 #102 Nashville (2002)
35| D| Vernace, Mike | $525,000| UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #201 San Jose (2004)
36| F | Jean, Kyle (ELC)| $925,000* | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
37| F | Bourque, Ryan (ELC) | $900,000* | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R3 #80 NYR (2009)
38| G | Missiaen, Jason (ELC) | $750,000* |RFA 2014 |Connecticut Whale/AHL|Undrafted
39| G | Stajcer, Scott (ELC)| $700,000* | RFA 2014| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL|R5 #140 NYR (2009)
40| F | Wilson, Jason (ELC)| $588,333 | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R5 #130 NYR (2010)
41| D | McIlrath, Dylan (ELC)| $1,295,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R1 #10 NYR (2010)
42| F | Fast(h), Jesper (ELC)| $900,000* |RFA 2015|Connecticut Whale/AHL???| R6 #157 NYR (2010)
43| D | Bickel, Stu| $750,000| UFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL | Undrafted
44| F | Haley, Micheal| $600,000 | UFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
45| F | Thomas, Christian (ELC)| $970,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R2 #40 NYR (2010)
46| F | Yogan, Andrew (ELC)| $800,000 | RFA 2015 | Connecticut Whale/AHL| R4 #100 NYR (2010)
47| F | Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) | $760,000* |RFA 2015| Loaned to Skellefteå AIK/SEL| R2 #57 PHX (2010)
48| F | Hrivik, Marek (ELC)| $685,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
49| G | Talbot, Cameron | $562,600 | UFA 2015| Connecticut Whale/AHL | Undrafted[/table]

CONTRACTED PLAYERS THAT DO NOT COUNT against 50 contract limit in 2013
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
+| F | Nicholls, J. (ELC)| $709,167 | RFA 2014| Juniors - Saskatoon Blades/WHL |R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)
+| F | St. Croix, M. (ELC S)| $665,000 | RFA 2016| Juniors - Edmonton Oil Kings/WHL |R4 #106 NYR (2011)
+| D | Allen, Connor(ELC S)???| $900,000 ?| RFA 2016?|Connecticut Whale/AHL |undrafted[/table]

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR
[table="head;width=2500]Pos| Player|Team| Drafted
D |Pashnin, Mikhail| HC Lokomotiv Yaroslavl/KHL |R7 #200 NYR (2009)
F |Fogarty, Steven| Notre Dame Fighting Irish/CCHA| R3 #72 NYR (2011)
F |McColgan, Shane| Saskatoon Blades/WHL | R5 #134 NYR (2011)
D |Noreau, Samuel | Baie-Comeau Drakkar/LHJMQ |R5 #136 NYR(2011)
D |ČereÅ¡ňák, Peter| Peterborough Petes/OHL| R6 #172 NYR (2011)
D |Skjei, Brady | Minnesota Golden Gophers/WCHA |R1 #28 NYR (2012)
F |Nieves, Cristoval | Michigan Wolverines/CCHA| R2 #59 NYR (2012)
D |Andersson, Calle| Malmö /HA | R4 #119 NYR (2012)
F |Spelling, Thomas| Oskarshamn/HA | R5 #142 NYR(2012)[/table]

* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
LTIR - denotes player placed on Long time injury reserve

NYR Draft picks in 2013

• 2nd round NYR
• 3rd round Florida (for W. Wolski 2012)
• 3rd round Nashville (for NYR 3rd round pick 2012)
• 3rd round NYR
• 3rd round Columbus (in Nash trade 2012, conditional - that NYR do not go to SC finals in 2013)
• 4th round NYR
• 6th round NYR

• NO 1st rounder (traded to Columbus for Rick Nash... 2012)
• NO 5th rounder (traded to Nashville for Nashville 5th 2012 - chose Tomas Spelling at #142)
• NO 7th rounder (traded to Minnesota along with Eric "Crusher" Christensen for Casey Wellman 2012)

NYR Draft picks in 2014

• 1st round NYR
• 2nd round NYR
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round NYR
• 5th round Florida (for Casey Wellman)
• 5th round NYR
• 6th round NYR

• Eventually NO 7th rounder (conditionally traded to San Jose along with Tommy "horror-movie" Grant for Brandon Mashinter 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR then San Jose gets the pick)

 

[NYR Sting]

I would say that this is a horrible deal for the Flames, and that Jay Feaster has again proven that he has absolutely no idea what he's doing, but I don't want to upset the contingent of the board that gets so upset any time anyone suggests that NHL scouts or GMs don't know what they're doing.

Thankfully, people like Jay Feaster exist, and continue to prove that this is most certainly a real possibility. Poor Calgary.

 

[mike14]

So, since the lockout the Pens have been able to trade for Hossa, Neal and Iginla without really giving up much at all. I understand that it's easier to make a trade when you already have Crosby and Malkin so you can sacrifice some depth but how can they keep doing that when the only useful trade we've made is for Nash and it cost us half our depth?

 

[Zil]

I would say that this is a horrible deal for the Flames, and that Jay Feaster has again proven that he has absolutely no idea what he's doing, but I don't want to upset the contingent of the board that gets so upset any time anyone suggests that NHL scouts or GMs don't know what they're doing.

Thankfully, people like Jay Feaster exist, and continue to prove that this is most certainly a real possibility. Poor Calgary.

We're talking about the guy who offer sheeted O'Reilly without realizing he was going to have to clear waivers. Reasonable people can disagree about the merits of our own front office, but I don't see anybody giving Feaster the benefit of the doubt here.

So, since the lockout the Pens have been able to trade for Hossa, Neal and Iginla without really giving up much at all. I understand that it's easier to make a trade when you already have Crosby and Malkin so you can sacrifice some depth but how can they keep doing that when the only useful trade we've made is for Nash and it cost us half our depth?

We started the year really thin up front, but it's the lack of production from Richards and Gaborik that has really buried us. Remember, Dubinsky and Anisimov both had down years offensively last season when we finished first.

 

[RangerBoy]

Detroit was trying to win their 3rd straight Cup in 1999. They added Chris Chelios,Ulf Samuelsson,Wendel Clark and Bill Ranford at the deadline to win that year. Detroit lost in the 2nd round to the Avs.

Pittsburgh added 3 old guys. 35,34 and 33 year old players. They made their team slower. Iginla and Morrow. Too bad its not 2003. San Jose has looked better without Murray.

Pittsburgh needs a healthy Letang and Malkin. They need their goalie to be the guy from 2008 and 2009. If Fleury falters,the other guy doesn't have much playoff experience.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Wait. The **** just happened with Iginla?

I hate the Pens so, so much.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Also a hearty LOL to Hanowski being one of the two prospects.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

How can Pittsburgh afford all these guys....

 

[RangerBoy]

The cap is $70.2M. Teams didn't spend close to the upper limit. The Flames had their hands tied by the NMC. Iginla gave them a list of 4 teams. There was a deadline. They didn't milk it to 3pm on April 3.

 

[EEL]

And now the pressure in Pitt to win the cup just tripled let alone the chemistry dynamic.
Add that to the key injuries, getting older and MAF!
It'll be interesting.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Gotta think Boston is now back in on Clowe.

 

[NikC]

Wonder if Glencross could be moved. He'd be an ideal pickup.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Gotta think Boston is now back in on Clowe.

I was thinking the same thing, meanwhile back in Mediocrity Land the great 13 year plan GM continues to do nothing